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Marwin · 05-09-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

No offense to anyone, but I'm really starting to get sicked and tired of these rumor threads with authoritative and declarative thread titles that are completely misleading and false.

Agreed, I've changed the title to "Universal going neutral?".

Rob Tomlin · 05-09-2007, 02:44 PM

Frankly I don't like the idea that this "info" is coming from Pioneer, not Universal.

Rob Tomlin · 05-09-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

I agree.

No offense to anyone, but I'm really starting to get sicked and tired of these rumor threads with authoritative and declarative thread titles that are completely misleading and false.

Agreed.

It would be a pity to get the same reputation as the HD-DVD zealots.

Glad to see the thread title changed.

dialog_gvf · 05-09-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

Frankly I don't like the idea that this "info" is coming from Pioneer, not Universal.

Andy Parsons is the head of BD promotions. But, up to now, I haven't seen a deliberate falsehood come from him or Pioneer.

If untrue, this could only be called a deliberate lie, don't you think?

Gary

phranctoast · 05-09-2007, 02:48 PM

Lets just hope the info is for real. To early to start celebrating though.

HDJK · 05-09-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Andy Parsons is the head of BD promotions. But, up to now, I haven't seen a deliberate falsehood come from him or Pioneer.

If untrue, this could only be called a deliberate lie, don't you think?

Gary

You mean like a project Pyro thing? The thought crossed my mind, but I can't imagine Heise going for some news that is from an utterly unknown source. The speculation could go on forever... until we know if it's real or not.

JTK · 05-09-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Marwin

Agreed, I've changed the title to "Universal going neutral?".

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

Agreed.

It would be a pity to get the same reputation as the HD-DVD zealots.

Glad to see the thread title changed.

^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Andy Parsons is the head of BD promotions. But, up to now, I haven't seen a deliberate falsehood come from him or Pioneer.

If untrue, this could only be called a deliberate lie, don't you think?

Gary

Rob voices a legitimate concern but so far, as best I know, Parsons and that BDA side have been fairly clean and devoid of the blatant lies and smearing that we see from the HD-DVD camp on a regular basis.

dialog_gvf · 05-09-2007, 02:59 PM

All in all some good healthy skepticism.

Down with zealotry.

Gary

HDJK · 05-09-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTK

Rob voices a legitimate concern but so far, as best I know, Parsons and that BDA side have been fairly clean and devoid of the blatant lies and smearing that we see from the HD-DVD camp on a regular basis.

Just to keep things clear: it was never said that Pioneer or the BDA made such a statement. They just said that some reps from Pioneer mentioned something in a press conference. That's a pretty open statement.

Spankey · 05-09-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HDJK

Just to keep things clear: it was never said that Pioneer or the BDA made such a statement. They just said that some reps from Pioneer mentioned something in a press conference. That's a pretty open statement.

I would have loved to hear the press conference and the name of the person giving it.

Greenmatiz2 · 05-09-2007, 03:04 PM

Well, if Universal is reading this, and it's even being considered, please know that here is one individual who will welcome you with an open wallet!

donricouga · 05-09-2007, 03:22 PM

I'll believe it when I hear it from some important Exec at Universal here in the states

The Big Blue · 05-09-2007, 03:24 PM

Die HD DVD, die!

Need0fMany · 05-09-2007, 03:41 PM

As much as I would like to believe this rumour, it is at this point just a rumour. Also, the pessimist in me can easily come up with a bleak scenario:

- Universal announces that it will release some Blu-ray movies... in the form of THD format in which the Blu-ray side is limited to 25GB.
- Universal continues to do the HD-DVD side first and just does a quick and dirty port to the Blu-ray side with no optimization and no enhanced audio.
- The web flames on and MS paid bloggers spread the faith that as expected the Blu-ray side is of poorer quality, bla bla bla.
- The HD-DVD fans use the sale of THD and keep counting them as HD-DVD sales no matter who the customers are.
- Years later, pure HD-DVD are gone but there are still two formats: THD (from neutral studios) and Blu-ray (from Sony studios).

Please note that I do not wish any of this to happen. I just believe that being ready mentally for less than ideal scenarios can prevent being extremely disappointed later on.

powerSURG · 05-09-2007, 03:46 PM

^^ I'm with you, I don't wish for any of these scenarios to come to life... and the Optimism in me says; Once Uni drops HD-DVD, than there will be no reason for HD-DVD to exist.

Except of course for those whom have already bought into it. But, if it has no exclusivity, why would it still exist? Then again, there is no reason is should exist now...

Need0fMany · 05-09-2007, 03:50 PM

That was the point I was trying to make powerSURG, the rumour is that they are dropping HD-DVD EXCLUSIVITY, not HD-DVD altogether, hence my pessimistic scenarios. Some people around here are getting too excited and jumping from dropping exclusivity to dropping the format altogether.

A good example of a company pretending to support both but often hurting Blu-ray is Warner. I could easily see Universal being worse than Warner.

Shin-Ra · 05-09-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by powerSURG

^^ I'm with you, I don't wish for any of these scenarios to come to life... and the Optimism in me says; Once Uni drops HD-DVD, than there will be no reason for HD-DVD to exist.

Except of course for those whom have already bought into it. But, if it has no exclusivity, why would it still exist? Then again, there is no reason is should exist now...

^ unless you're looking forward to partaking in AMZING INTERCTIVE ONLINE FEATUREZ LAK POLLZ! A few months earlier. ^

RUR · 05-09-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

^ unless you're looking forward to partaking in AMZING INTERCTIVE ONLINE FEATUREZ LAK POLLZ! A few months earlier. ^

Que? Just because you're a mod now doesn't mean you're entitled to speak in tongues

Shin-Ra · 05-09-2007, 04:00 PM

High def is all about the interactive online features, don'tcha know?

I would like Gladiator on Blu-ray. So yes.. Uni on Blu-ray, please continue!

powerSURG · 05-09-2007, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Need0fMany

A good example of a company pretending to support both but often hurting Blu-ray is Warner. I could easily see Universal being worse than Warner.

So very sad, but true. Man I really can't wait for HD-DVD to disappear, everything will be so much better. ...EVERYTHING!!!

This world will be a better place with out it!

haha, nice shin-ra

05-09-2007, 03:41 PM	#34
Need0fMany Active Member Member since:Jan 2007	Too soon to celebrate As much as I would like to believe this rumour, it is at this point just a rumour. Also, the pessimist in me can easily come up with a bleak scenario: - Universal announces that it will release some Blu-ray movies... in the form of THD format in which the Blu-ray side is limited to 25GB. - Universal continues to do the HD-DVD side first and just does a quick and dirty port to the Blu-ray side with no optimization and no enhanced audio. - The web flames on and MS paid bloggers spread the faith that as expected the Blu-ray side is of poorer quality, bla bla bla. - The HD-DVD fans use the sale of THD and keep counting them as HD-DVD sales no matter who the customers are. - Years later, pure HD-DVD are gone but there are still two formats: THD (from neutral studios) and Blu-ray (from Sony studios). Please note that I do not wish any of this to happen. I just believe that being ready mentally for less than ideal scenarios can prevent being extremely disappointed later on.

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05-09-2007, 02:44 PM	#22
Rob Tomlin Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2006	Frankly I don't like the idea that this "info" is coming from Pioneer, not Universal.

05-09-2007, 02:48 PM	#25
phranctoast Power Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Long Island, NY;psn:phranctoast Blu-ray collection:78	Lets just hope the info is for real. To early to start celebrating though.

05-09-2007, 02:59 PM	#28
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	All in all some good healthy skepticism. Down with zealotry. Gary

05-09-2007, 03:04 PM	#31
Greenmatiz2 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	Well, if Universal is reading this, and it's even being considered, please know that here is one individual who will welcome you with an open wallet!

05-09-2007, 03:22 PM	#32
donricouga Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Atlanta, GA Blu-ray collection:138 Blu-ray reviews: 9 Trading Score:1	I'll believe it when I hear it from some important Exec at Universal here in the states

05-09-2007, 03:24 PM	#33
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	Die HD DVD, die!

05-09-2007, 03:46 PM	#35
powerSURG Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Shaw AFB, SC Blu-ray collection:42	^^ I'm with you, I don't wish for any of these scenarios to come to life... and the Optimism in me says; Once Uni drops HD-DVD, than there will be no reason for HD-DVD to exist. Except of course for those whom have already bought into it. But, if it has no exclusivity, why would it still exist? Then again, there is no reason is should exist now...

05-09-2007, 03:50 PM	#36
Need0fMany Active Member Member since:Jan 2007	That was the point I was trying to make powerSURG, the rumour is that they are dropping HD-DVD EXCLUSIVITY, not HD-DVD altogether, hence my pessimistic scenarios. Some people around here are getting too excited and jumping from dropping exclusivity to dropping the format altogether. A good example of a company pretending to support both but often hurting Blu-ray is Warner. I could easily see Universal being worse than Warner.

05-09-2007, 04:00 PM	#39
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	High def is all about the interactive online features, don'tcha know? I would like Gladiator on Blu-ray. So yes.. Uni on Blu-ray, please continue!

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