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The_Basterd · 03-21-2010, 05:09 PM

How to get HD 1080P on the original Xbox 360?
Ok, I bought the Xbox 360 the day it came out. I haven't played with it since July of 2008.
Well, recently I am starting to play with it again, and I just bought COD: Modern Warfare 2 and and Mass Effect 2.
I can't find an HDMI port on the Xbox 360, and I really want to use the 1080P on my new tv I just bought.
How do you connect it to the Xbox 360? Like what will I need to buy? Maybe, links to Amazon?
Edit:
What about these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B6MLPU
http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-HDMI-...192279&sr=8-13

Trogdor2010 · 03-21-2010, 05:58 PM

All Xbox 360 models (as of august or septemble of 2007) will have HDMI.

However, 1080p on the Xbox 360 with component is every bit as good as using HDMI. HDMI is really for having the convienience of having one cable instead of having a few cable to plug in video and audio. The only benefit of using HDMI is to use it for bypassing the HDCP encyption used for the now defunct HD DVD format. If you own an HD DVD add on for the 360, you can still get high definition video at 1080i, which doesn't look as bad as you think, and even for larger screens, it's negligable mostly, it just that the TV does the deinterlacing from the video with HD DVDs. Here is true fact about both formats, players set at 1080p 60Hz video are actually 1080i 60Hz video deinterlaced by the player. The only way to get a true 1080p video is using a 1080p24Hz signal, which the 360 doesn't support it even for HD DVD.

Steve · 03-21-2010, 06:39 PM

Until recently I had an older Xbox 360 console with no HDMI port, so I used component video cables and an optical audio cable. I was never able to use it set on 1080p. I'm guessing it was because of the HDCP garbage and apparently neither of my receivers would take the 1080p signal over component video. You can still use it at 1080i though and your receiver or TV will deinterlace and the picture will look really good (as pointed out). I finally bought a new Elite console because I needed a bigger hard drive and I wanted the convenience of HDMI. I honestly can't tell any difference in PQ though.

Propellarhead9 · 03-21-2010, 08:23 PM

I have an adapter that was made for the old Xbox 360s. It plugs into the normal output port and allows me to use HDMI and optical audio. I don't use it anymore, I sold my xbox to Gamestop and they wouldn't take the adapter even though its branded with their name.

The_Basterd · 04-01-2010, 04:10 AM

I just purchased the official Xbox 360 HD AV Cables on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...2DJ502497AP8PC
It works in 1080P, and says so on the package. Amazon is advertising it as 720P or 1080i, but the package says 1080P. This was hard to believe, and I went to settings and it let me switch to 1080P, and it works great!
Great product for the people who bought the Xbox 360's right when they came out.
Enjoying the Xbox 360 finally in 1080P!!!
Recommended.
Note to Amazon: Change info description.

Polygon · 04-01-2010, 04:31 AM

Yep, component is perfectly capable of pushing 1080p.

The_Basterd · 04-01-2010, 04:34 AM

To start off you should know I am a complete and total noob with this type of stuff.
Also, you should know I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port.
Ok, I bought these and they look pretty good http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames
It works in 1080P, and says so on the package. Amazon is advertising it as 720P or 1080i, but the package says 1080P. Oh, I just noticed the website says 1080P also. This was hard to believe, and I went to settings and it let me switch to 1080P.
Then now I just noticed 3 different products from the same company (Xbox 360 obviously...)
I have questions on them, and one of them which is mine.
The ones I bought:
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames
Am I really getting the 1080P experience. It says 1080P, but these came out in 2005.
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-VGA-H...8&s=videogames
Um... What is the difference? I am pretty confused with this type of stuff. :P Is this any better than the one above?
Ok and most importantly I just noticed these:
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-HDMI-.../dp/B000UODATY
These are the newest out, but I am not sure if they would work with my Xbox 360. I am pretty sure this might be just plain old HDMI. I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port. Obviously my TV has an HDMI port. It has 4 or 5 ports I think. Would this product work with my TV. How would you set this up if it would work? And if it does work with any TV that has a HDMI port, is this the best product to get the full 1080P HD quality?
I wish my Xbox 360 had an HDMI Port, I am going through a lot of trouble. :P

Which product that are HD AV Cables would you recommend, any of the ones above (excluding the 3rd one which I think won't work) Or any others ones I may not have seen. Or am I just fine with the ones I got, the second one (VGA HD)I shown you is not as good as the AV HD Component Cables that I have now?
Help will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

The_Basterd · 04-01-2010, 04:45 AM

To start off you should know I am a complete and total noob with this type of stuff.
Also, you should know I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port.
Ok, I bought these and they look pretty good http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames
It works in 1080P, and says so on the package. Amazon is advertising it as 720P or 1080i, but the package says 1080P. Oh, I just noticed the website says 1080P also. This was hard to believe, and I went to settings and it let me switch to 1080P.
Then now I just noticed 3 different products from the same company (Xbox 360 obviously...)
I have questions on them, and one of them which is mine.
The ones I bought:
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames
Am I really getting the 1080P experience. It says 1080P, but these came out in 2005.
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-VGA-H...8&s=videogames
Um... What is the difference? I am pretty confused with this type of stuff. :P Is this any better than the one above?
Ok and most importantly I just noticed these:
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-HDMI-.../dp/B000UODATY
These are the newest out, but I am not sure if they would work with my Xbox 360. I am pretty sure this might be just plain old HDMI. I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port. Obviously my TV has an HDMI port. It has 4 or 5 ports I think. Would this product work with my TV. How would you set this up if it would work? And if it does work with any TV that has a HDMI port, is this the best product to get the full 1080P HD quality?
I wish my Xbox 360 had an HDMI Port, I am going through a lot of trouble. :P

Which product that are HD AV Cables would you recommend, any of the ones above (excluding the 3rd one which I think won't work) Or any others ones I may not have seen. Or am I just fine with the ones I got, the second one (VGA HD)I shown you is not as good as the AV HD Component Cables that I have now?
Help will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

DesertFenix · 04-01-2010, 05:27 AM

The component cables that you bought will only deliver 1080i. The only way to get 1080p is through an HDMI or DVI cable. Now the 2nd cables that you posted are VGA, you might be able to get 1080p, however in order for a signal to go over VGA it must be converted into Analog, then converted back to digital, so there is always a possibility of data loss. I think that your best bet will be to go with what you have right now. When your XBox dies you can get a new one with an HDMI cable.

DesertFenix · 04-01-2010, 05:31 AM

I've only ever seen component push out a signal as high as 1080i on video equipment. Are you 100% sure about that? I don't use component anymore as I have HDMI for all my gear because HDMI is the only cord that will take the 1080p signal to the TV.

krazeyeyez · 04-01-2010, 06:16 AM

I am no expert so if this is wrong i am sure some one will happily point it out

The vast majority of video games are not native 1080p, in fact they are 720p. So your xbox, ps3 etc... is just upconverting and passing the signal on, something that your 1080p tv does anyway. Its sort of like upconverting dvd players, sure the expensive ones will go above and beyond and make the picture better. However most (especially affordable ones) don't really do much that your tv won't do anyways.

I personally would just stick with the 720 and not really care (i still play ps1 on my HDTV all the time). If you do really care though you can always take your 360 to a used store, preferably not a chain like gamestop etc.. as they will rip you off. Exchange it for a model that has an HDMI and chances are you will not end up paying to much difference on the exchange. Just a thought, as the way i understand it their is no way to get a 1080p signal from a non hdmi 360.

Steve · 04-01-2010, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polygon

Yep, component is perfectly capable of pushing 1080p.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertFenix

I've only ever seen component push out a signal as high as 1080i on video equipment. Are you 100% sure about that? I don't use component anymore as I have HDMI for all my gear because HDMI is the only cord that will take the 1080p signal to the TV.

I've always read that component can carry 1080p video just fine, but due to HDCP restrictions most devices won't accept 1080p over anything but HDMI. Therefore component can only be utilized for 720p/1080i.

Steve · 04-01-2010, 01:35 PM

I posted in your other thread on this topic that according to what I've read component video can carry 1080p. However, due to HDCP limitations, most devices won't accept 1080p over anything but HDMI. So even though component video cables can carry the data, they're use is almost always limited to 720p/1080i for copy protection reasons.

Polygon · 04-01-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

I've always read that component can carry 1080p video just fine, but due to HDCP restrictions most devices won't accept 1080p over anything but HDMI. Therefore component can only be utilized for 720p/1080i.

This.

Most people confuse that it can't do 1080p with the fact that it can't push HDCP. It can do 1080p just fine as long as you aren't using something that needs HDCP to it, like the 360.

Also, FYI, I am using component on my X-Box and getting 1080p to my TV.

Polygon · 04-01-2010, 02:51 PM

What you got should be just fine. The second one you posted connects to the VGA, and it's not really any better than component. The third one is HDMI and won't work unless you have an HDMI port.

Polygon · 04-01-2010, 02:53 PM

I am running 1080p over component from my 360.

Hektic · 04-01-2010, 03:38 PM

While it is possible to achieve 1080P on the component cables you purchased, it is very unlikely that your t.v. supports 1080P through a component connection, so the highest you can probably go without HDMI is 1080i. Even if you could get 1080P through the component cables, it suffers the same problem that a previous poster said regarding VGA cables; the signal needs to be converted to analog.

If you really want 1080P on your 360, you would need an HDMI conversion kit such as this one. I do not know how well those types of devices work, but that is the only way to get 1080P out of a 360 without HDMI.

The_Basterd · 04-01-2010, 05:09 PM

Yeah, I just checke my tv again it says 1080p, and it let me do this through the settings.

brettallica · 04-01-2010, 05:27 PM

Now all you need to do is upgrade your XBOX 360 and go with the HDMI connection.

I think I read somewhere that the Ludwig sticks for RockBand require an HDMI cable.

SDon1969 · 04-01-2010, 05:45 PM

Another option, the one I use:

03-21-2010, 05:09 PM	#1
The_Basterd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Grapes Are Fun! Blu-ray collection:307 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	How to get HD 1080P on the original Xbox 360? How to get HD 1080P on the original Xbox 360? Ok, I bought the Xbox 360 the day it came out. I haven't played with it since July of 2008. Well, recently I am starting to play with it again, and I just bought COD: Modern Warfare 2 and and Mass Effect 2. I can't find an HDMI port on the Xbox 360, and I really want to use the 1080P on my new tv I just bought. How do you connect it to the Xbox 360? Like what will I need to buy? Maybe, links to Amazon? Edit: What about these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B6MLPU http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-HDMI-...192279&sr=8-13 Last edited by The_Basterd; 03-21-2010 at 05:32 PM.

04-01-2010, 04:34 AM	#7
The_Basterd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Grapes Are Fun! Blu-ray collection:307 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	Question About 1080P HD on the Xbox 360? To start off you should know I am a complete and total noob with this type of stuff. Also, you should know I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port. Ok, I bought these and they look pretty good http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames It works in 1080P, and says so on the package. Amazon is advertising it as 720P or 1080i, but the package says 1080P. Oh, I just noticed the website says 1080P also. This was hard to believe, and I went to settings and it let me switch to 1080P. Then now I just noticed 3 different products from the same company (Xbox 360 obviously...) I have questions on them, and one of them which is mine. The ones I bought: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames Am I really getting the 1080P experience. It says 1080P, but these came out in 2005. http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-VGA-H...8&s=videogames Um... What is the difference? I am pretty confused with this type of stuff. :P Is this any better than the one above? *Ok and most importantly I just noticed these:* http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-HDMI-.../dp/B000UODATY These are the newest out, but I am not sure if they would work with my Xbox 360. I am pretty sure this might be just plain old HDMI. I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port. Obviously my TV has an HDMI port. It has 4 or 5 ports I think. Would this product work with my TV. How would you set this up if it would work? And if it does work with any TV that has a HDMI port, is this the best product to get the full 1080P HD quality? I wish my Xbox 360 had an HDMI Port, I am going through a lot of trouble. :P Which product that are HD AV Cables would you recommend, any of the ones above (excluding the 3rd one which I think won't work) Or any others ones I may not have seen. Or am I just fine with the ones I got, the second one (VGA HD)I shown you is not as good as the AV HD Component Cables that I have now? Help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance! Last edited by The_Basterd; 04-01-2010 at 04:51 AM.

04-01-2010, 04:45 AM	#8
The_Basterd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Grapes Are Fun! Blu-ray collection:307 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	Question About 1080P HD on the Xbox 360? To start off you should know I am a complete and total noob with this type of stuff. Also, you should know I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port. Ok, I bought these and they look pretty good http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames It works in 1080P, and says so on the package. Amazon is advertising it as 720P or 1080i, but the package says 1080P. Oh, I just noticed the website says 1080P also. This was hard to believe, and I went to settings and it let me switch to 1080P. Then now I just noticed 3 different products from the same company (Xbox 360 obviously...) I have questions on them, and one of them which is mine. The ones I bought: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Compo...8&s=videogames Am I really getting the 1080P experience. It says 1080P, but these came out in 2005. http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-VGA-H...8&s=videogames Um... What is the difference? I am pretty confused with this type of stuff. :P Is this any better than the one above? *Ok and most importantly I just noticed these:* http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-HDMI-.../dp/B000UODATY These are the newest out, but I am not sure if they would work with my Xbox 360. I am pretty sure this might be just plain old HDMI. I bought the Xbox 360 right when they came out, hence why I don't have a HDMI port. Obviously my TV has an HDMI port. It has 4 or 5 ports I think. Would this product work with my TV. How would you set this up if it would work? And if it does work with any TV that has a HDMI port, is this the best product to get the full 1080P HD quality? I wish my Xbox 360 had an HDMI Port, I am going through a lot of trouble. :P Which product that are HD AV Cables would you recommend, any of the ones above (excluding the 3rd one which I think won't work) Or any others ones I may not have seen. Or am I just fine with the ones I got, the second one (VGA HD)I shown you is not as good as the AV HD Component Cables that I have now? Help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance! Last edited by The_Basterd; 04-01-2010 at 04:51 AM.

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03-21-2010, 05:58 PM	#2
Trogdor2010 Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Mar 2009 Home Theater Gallery:45 Blu-ray collection:266	All Xbox 360 models (as of august or septemble of 2007) will have HDMI. However, 1080p on the Xbox 360 with component is every bit as good as using HDMI. HDMI is really for having the convienience of having one cable instead of having a few cable to plug in video and audio. The only benefit of using HDMI is to use it for bypassing the HDCP encyption used for the now defunct HD DVD format. If you own an HD DVD add on for the 360, you can still get high definition video at 1080i, which doesn't look as bad as you think, and even for larger screens, it's negligable mostly, it just that the TV does the deinterlacing from the video with HD DVDs. Here is true fact about both formats, players set at 1080p 60Hz video are actually 1080i 60Hz video deinterlaced by the player. The only way to get a true 1080p video is using a 1080p24Hz signal, which the 360 doesn't support it even for HD DVD.

03-21-2010, 06:39 PM	#3
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	Until recently I had an older Xbox 360 console with no HDMI port, so I used component video cables and an optical audio cable. I was never able to use it set on 1080p. I'm guessing it was because of the HDCP garbage and apparently neither of my receivers would take the 1080p signal over component video. You can still use it at 1080i though and your receiver or TV will deinterlace and the picture will look really good (as pointed out). I finally bought a new Elite console because I needed a bigger hard drive and I wanted the convenience of HDMI. I honestly can't tell any difference in PQ though.

03-21-2010, 08:23 PM	#4
Propellarhead9 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Clarksville, Indiana 4K collection:498 Blu-ray collection:1719 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	I have an adapter that was made for the old Xbox 360s. It plugs into the normal output port and allows me to use HDMI and optical audio. I don't use it anymore, I sold my xbox to Gamestop and they wouldn't take the adapter even though its branded with their name.

04-01-2010, 04:10 AM	#5
The_Basterd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Grapes Are Fun! Blu-ray collection:307 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	I just purchased the official Xbox 360 HD AV Cables on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...2DJ502497AP8PC It works in 1080P, and says so on the package. Amazon is advertising it as 720P or 1080i, but the package says 1080P. This was hard to believe, and I went to settings and it let me switch to 1080P, and it works great! Great product for the people who bought the Xbox 360's right when they came out. Enjoying the Xbox 360 finally in 1080P!!! Recommended. Note to Amazon: Change info description.

04-01-2010, 04:31 AM	#6
Polygon Active Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Utah Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:140 DVD collection:672 Blu-ray reviews:40 Trading Score:2	Yep, component is perfectly capable of pushing 1080p.

04-01-2010, 05:27 AM	#9
DesertFenix Active Member Member since:Mar 2010 Blu-ray collection:109 Trading Score:1	The component cables that you bought will only deliver 1080i. The only way to get 1080p is through an HDMI or DVI cable. Now the 2nd cables that you posted are VGA, you might be able to get 1080p, however in order for a signal to go over VGA it must be converted into Analog, then converted back to digital, so there is always a possibility of data loss. I think that your best bet will be to go with what you have right now. When your XBox dies you can get a new one with an HDMI cable.

04-01-2010, 05:31 AM	#10
DesertFenix Active Member Member since:Mar 2010 Blu-ray collection:109 Trading Score:1	I've only ever seen component push out a signal as high as 1080i on video equipment. Are you 100% sure about that? I don't use component anymore as I have HDMI for all my gear because HDMI is the only cord that will take the 1080p signal to the TV.

04-01-2010, 06:16 AM	#11
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	I am no expert so if this is wrong i am sure some one will happily point it out The vast majority of video games are not native 1080p, in fact they are 720p. So your xbox, ps3 etc... is just upconverting and passing the signal on, something that your 1080p tv does anyway. Its sort of like upconverting dvd players, sure the expensive ones will go above and beyond and make the picture better. However most (especially affordable ones) don't really do much that your tv won't do anyways. I personally would just stick with the 720 and not really care (i still play ps1 on my HDTV all the time). If you do really care though you can always take your 360 to a used store, preferably not a chain like gamestop etc.. as they will rip you off. Exchange it for a model that has an HDMI and chances are you will not end up paying to much difference on the exchange. Just a thought, as the way i understand it their is no way to get a 1080p signal from a non hdmi 360.

04-01-2010, 01:35 PM	#13
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	I posted in your other thread on this topic that according to what I've read component video can carry 1080p. However, due to HDCP limitations, most devices won't accept 1080p over anything but HDMI. So even though component video cables can carry the data, they're use is almost always limited to 720p/1080i for copy protection reasons.

04-01-2010, 02:51 PM	#15
Polygon Active Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Utah Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:140 DVD collection:672 Blu-ray reviews:40 Trading Score:2	What you got should be just fine. The second one you posted connects to the VGA, and it's not really any better than component. The third one is HDMI and won't work unless you have an HDMI port.

04-01-2010, 02:53 PM	#16
Polygon Active Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Utah Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:140 DVD collection:672 Blu-ray reviews:40 Trading Score:2	I am running 1080p over component from my 360.

04-01-2010, 03:38 PM	#17
Hektic Member Member since:Feb 2010 Blu-ray collection:129	While it is possible to achieve 1080P on the component cables you purchased, it is very unlikely that your t.v. supports 1080P through a component connection, so the highest you can probably go without HDMI is 1080i. Even if you could get 1080P through the component cables, it suffers the same problem that a previous poster said regarding VGA cables; the signal needs to be converted to analog. If you really want 1080P on your 360, you would need an HDMI conversion kit such as this one. I do not know how well those types of devices work, but that is the only way to get 1080P out of a 360 without HDMI.

04-01-2010, 05:09 PM	#18
The_Basterd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Grapes Are Fun! Blu-ray collection:307 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	Yeah, I just checke my tv again it says 1080p, and it let me do this through the settings.

04-01-2010, 05:27 PM	#19
brettallica Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Santa Cruz, California Home Theater Gallery:51 Blu-ray collection:79 Trading Score:6	Now all you need to do is upgrade your XBOX 360 and go with the HDMI connection. I think I read somewhere that the Ludwig sticks for RockBand require an HDMI cable.

04-01-2010, 05:45 PM	#20
SDon1969 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:745 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Another option, the one I use:

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