The Matrix = Unoriginal? - Blu-ray Forum

X-Ninja · 05-19-2008, 11:37 PM

Found this video on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBbSx72FFyY

Incredibly true. I personally liked The Matrix more then i liked Blade - but both were incredibly good movies.

I diddn't realise that Blade came out before The Matrix. I always thought that Blade just took The Matrix's ideas and ripped them off into one big gore-fest with swords and guns. Apparently not.

I know both of these movies arent even on blu-ray

... I just thought some people might be interested in seeing that.

helius · 05-19-2008, 11:41 PM

False.

Col. Zombie · 05-19-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by helius

False.

+1

Some major douchebaggery in that video. Someone with way too much time on his/her hands. The Wachowski brothers were working on the script and developing their "bullet time" filming techniques loooooong before Blade even went into production. They were still trying to sell their script and idea in Hollywood way before Balde even got the green light.

dgator783 · 05-19-2008, 11:52 PM

i actually like to tell people that I came up with the basic premise of the Matrix movies when I was 10 years old just minus the computers....I thought and told the sisters that "wouldnt it be weird that what if life as we know it is a dream, that we are actually asleep right now, and that one day we'll wake up and start our lives for real?".....damn, I should have written it down then......that was 14 years ago....(true story)

blu-backer · 05-19-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dgator783

i actually like to tell people that I came up with the basic premise of the Matrix movies when I was 10 years old just minus the computers....I thought and told the sisters that "wouldnt it be weird that what if life as we know it is a dream, that we are actually asleep right now, and that one day we'll wake up and start our lives for real?".....damn, I should have written it down then......that was 14 years ago....(true story)

And I like to tell people that I was the real Napster....oh wait, wrong movie.

SlmShdy1 · 05-19-2008, 11:55 PM

Italian Job, right?

blu-backer · 05-19-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SlmShdy1

Italian Job, right?

Yep.

Marcusarilius · 05-19-2008, 11:58 PM

I thought Dark City was the stimulus for the Matrix Premise more than any other movie.

GORT · 05-20-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by X-Ninja

Found this video on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBbSx72FFyY

Incredibly true. I personally liked The Matrix more then i liked Blade - but both were incredibly good movies.

I diddn't realise that Blade came out before The Matrix. I always thought that Blade just took The Matrix's ideas and ripped them off into one big gore-fest with swords and guns. Apparently not.

I know both of these movies arent even on blu-ray

... I just thought some people might be interested in seeing that.

I think you are caught in The Matrix

WickyWoo · 05-20-2008, 12:02 AM

True, but not Blade

Watch the documentaries for all the influences

bajor27 · 05-20-2008, 12:03 AM

I thought everyone knew the Wachowski's (sp?) had stolen the idea. They did loose a big lawsuit about this a few years back

Link

Edit - okay - maybe they didn't lose afterall. I keep finding very conflicting information on the subject

doctorsteve · 05-20-2008, 12:03 AM

The Brothers were writing the Matrix in 1996 and before... anybody got data on when Blade was written?

doctorsteve · 05-20-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

I thought Dark City was the stimulus for the Matrix Premise more than any other movie.

Can't prove it - but some of the rooftop sets were used in both. The opening Trinity shots and the John Murdock rooftop shots are the same set (from IMDB trivia section for the Matrix)

Marcusarilius · 05-20-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by doctorsteve

Can't prove it - but some of the rooftop sets were used in both. The opening Trinity shots and the John Murdock rooftop shots are the same set (from IMDB trivia section for the Matrix)

Thats interesting. Now that you mention it, I can see that. So it was the rooftops that were the Matrix predisessor.

doctorsteve · 05-20-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

So it was the rooftops that were the Matrix predisessor.

Silly Marci... there is no roof.

Petra_Kalbrain · 05-20-2008, 12:51 AM

Wow... that guy must do "research yoga." He is very obviously skilled in stretching the facts!

However, I did find it interesting when he brought up the way all other races bowed to a caucasian messiah figure... an interesting representation of the current Christian religions around the world? Maybe.

Marcusarilius · 05-20-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Wow... that guy must do "research yoga." He is very obviously skilled in stretching the facts!

However, I did find it interesting when he brought up the way all other races bowed to a caucasian messiah figure... an interesting representation of the current Christian religions around the world? Maybe.

And Neo in the end of Matrix 3.

Petra_Kalbrain · 05-20-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

And Neo in the end of Matrix 3.

What about him? I'm not sure what your intention was in that reply. It actually seems rather disconnected from what I said.

Colglizity · 05-20-2008, 01:07 AM

It is pretty similar to the ancient Plato's "Allegory of the Cave". We studied the similarities in an English class when I was still in college. Pretty interesting.

Marcusarilius · 05-20-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Wow... that guy must do "research yoga." He is very obviously skilled in stretching the facts!

However, I did find it interesting when he brought up the way all other races bowed to a caucasian messiah figure... an interesting representation of the current Christian religions around the world? Maybe.

Neo, the white messiah figure. It was beyond obvious and rather interesting.

05-19-2008, 11:37 PM	#1
X-Ninja Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:North Bay, Ontario Posts: Over 1100.......... PSNetwork- Axecution Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:6	The Matrix = Unoriginal? Found this video on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBbSx72FFyY Incredibly true. I personally liked The Matrix more then i liked Blade - but both were incredibly good movies. I diddn't realise that Blade came out before The Matrix. I always thought that Blade just took The Matrix's ideas and ripped them off into one big gore-fest with swords and guns. Apparently not. I know both of these movies arent even on blu-ray ... I just thought some people might be interested in seeing that.

05-20-2008, 12:03 AM	#11
bajor27 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:BC, Canada Blu-ray collection:1031 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:5	I thought everyone knew the Wachowski's (sp?) had stolen the idea. They did loose a big lawsuit about this a few years back Link Edit - okay - maybe they didn't lose afterall. I keep finding very conflicting information on the subject Last edited by bajor27; 05-20-2008 at 12:06 AM.

05-20-2008, 12:03 AM	#12
doctorsteve Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Tonawanda, NY Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:188 Blu-ray reviews:16	A-Ha! The Brothers were writing the Matrix in 1996 and before... anybody got data on when Blade was written?

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05-19-2008, 11:41 PM	#2
helius Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Colorado	False.

05-19-2008, 11:52 PM	#4
dgator783 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Lakeland,FL 4K collection:377 Blu-ray collection:1521 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:14	i actually like to tell people that I came up with the basic premise of the Matrix movies when I was 10 years old just minus the computers....I thought and told the sisters that "wouldnt it be weird that what if life as we know it is a dream, that we are actually asleep right now, and that one day we'll wake up and start our lives for real?".....damn, I should have written it down then......that was 14 years ago....(true story)

05-19-2008, 11:55 PM	#6
SlmShdy1 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Honolulu, HI PlayStation® PSN: SlmShdy1 Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:292	Italian Job, right?

05-19-2008, 11:58 PM	#8
Marcusarilius Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Seattle, WA. Blu-ray reviews:52 Trading Score:1	I thought Dark City was the stimulus for the Matrix Premise more than any other movie.

05-20-2008, 12:02 AM	#10
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	True, but not Blade Watch the documentaries for all the influences

05-20-2008, 12:51 AM	#16
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	Wow... that guy must do "research yoga." He is very obviously skilled in stretching the facts! However, I did find it interesting when he brought up the way all other races bowed to a caucasian messiah figure... an interesting representation of the current Christian religions around the world? Maybe.

05-20-2008, 01:07 AM	#19
Colglizity Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Washington (360) Home Theater Gallery:40 Blu-ray collection:31 Blu-ray reviews:3	It is pretty similar to the ancient Plato's "Allegory of the Cave". We studied the similarities in an English class when I was still in college. Pretty interesting.

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