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Old 02-12-2009, 08:40 PM   #1
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I was told that the CRT can produce a better picture image then plasma or LCD. And that the contrast between colors and blacks is better. Is this true? and how well do CRT's stack up against the competition?
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:49 PM   #2
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What 1080p CRT are you looking at ??
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:56 PM   #3
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I'm not sure about contract but the CRT HDTVs but I've been told that they do a better job at reducing motion blur. I get pretty bad motion blur on my Sony 1080p XBR4 even at the 120 hz. Thinking I "should" have it professionally calibrated but it doesn't bother me enough to spend that kind of money. lol Anyway, CRTs are just too big and heavy and I'm surprised you even found one still for sale.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:08 PM   #4
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Many who own CRT FP setups are reluctant to replace them with DLP or other similar units because the image from a CRT front projector is fantastic...... But I'm not sure about regular CRTs
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:18 PM   #5
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Many who own CRT FP setups are reluctant to replace them with DLP or other similar units because the image from a CRT front projector is fantastic...... But I'm not sure about regular CRTs
I have a rear CRT which is HD ready meaning no HDMI cable. I am using component and the highest HD format I can receive is 1080i.

What has been my problem is: I would like to get a new TV BUT the one I have is extremely good. Great PQ when using Blu-ray and pretty good with regular TV. It has never been calibrated. If so, regular TV would probably look a lot better but it is not that bad to spend the $$$.

I have been looking at plasmas, LCDs, DLPs but nothing really beats my CRT enough to spend the $$$.

I have owned it for 7 years and nothing has gone wrong with it.

BUT Panasonic is coming out with a 54" plasma in a couple months. Maybe the size and the PQ on it will make me change my mind.



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Old 02-12-2009, 09:19 PM   #6
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I have the last Pioneer Elite Rear Projection CRT they made (PRO 530HDI). It has 2 HDMI imputs. I can say that it has a better picture than anything else I have seen. The newest Pioneer Elite Plasma is a close 2nd. No motion blur at all. Blacks are better than anything else out there.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:55 AM   #7
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I have a Toshiba rear projection 1080i CRT and i have yet to see an LCD or plasma that can top it, although i have not seen the Pioneer Elite plasmas. It is ISF calibrated and is fed by a Sim Audio dvd player and a Pioneer bluray player, it has deep blacks and vibrant colors. To me the big difference is that CRT have a very film like picture, while a fixed pixel display tends to remind me of a video game.

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Old 02-13-2009, 01:04 AM   #8
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I have a 55'' Mit CRT and it looks very, very good. It only has DVI input and is limited to 1080i, but it hangs in there pretty good. Some of my in-laws have LCD's and DLP's and I haven't been all that impressed. To be fair they probably aren't calibrated and aren't the newer models...but I still think mine looks more "natural"?
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:48 AM   #9
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I just bought the 30 in Sony Wega off my friends parents for $100 so it was a good deal. I just was wondering if i would need to update anytime soon. I want the most film like reproduction. Being a film student I like to stay as close to how it was intended to look and plasma and LCD seem to cater towards more television orientated people with color boosting and 120hz. I would like to get a CRT 1080 projector, nothing could beat that for movies
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:52 AM   #10
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Hi,

My Projector is the Sony G70,.. it's a CRT FP and I run it at 1080p.

A DVI board was once an option but I use a DVI to RGB converter (HDFury) and then a HDMI to DVI cable.

The Sxrd projectors I've seen come the closest to having the same type of image quality,... But I haven't seen them in a room like mine where there is total light control.

Anyway... Just wanted to say to some posters here... If you CRT set can accept 1080p you may want to google HDFury and the newer HDFury2 because they will pass 1080p into older sets and they are pretty cheap.

By the way... if you want to know more about CRT FP's that handle 1080p... AVScience is one good place to look and also curtpalme.com

Curt has been helping people get into CRT Projection for years and is wonderful to deal with. (I've had a few transactions and I know lots of others that have had great experiences with him too.)


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Old 02-13-2009, 12:26 PM   #11
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BUT Panasonic is coming out with a 54" plasma in a couple months. Maybe the size and the PQ on it will make me change my mind.
Hopefully their advertised "full 1080/1080 motion resolution" proves to be true - if so it'll be a gem.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:34 PM   #12
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I have a 51" Hitachi rear projection (51F500) and I couldn't be happyer with it. Amazing PQ considering it is 1080i DVI in.... My blus look amazing, and regular tv looks way better on my tv than what I have watched on some peoples lcd tvs... Like someone about said they do have more of a film feel to them as you dont ever see individual pixels or a grid like structure to the screen. It is a big tv (see my home theatre gallery) but it works in the room I have it in and with cabinets next to it you cant really tell its almost 2 feet thick.

My only issue is that when a bulb goes on my tv I not sure how to replace it or where to go to get the supplies....
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:16 AM   #13
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I have the Sony 34XBR960 which was about their last and top of the line HD CRT tube TV's. I have had it for a few years and I think it has the best picture quality of any TV I have ever seen. When I bought it, I was torn because it is a smaller screen, but the picture was just GORGEOUS! I still love it and still can't seem to bring myself to replace it! So, in answer to your question, as far as I understand, CRT HDTV's do have the best picture quality.

Jeremy

PS. Only drawback? My TV weighs 200lbs!
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:41 PM   #14
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I have the Sony 34XBR960 which was about their last and top of the line HD CRT tube TV's. I have had it for a few years and I think it has the best picture quality of any TV I have ever seen. When I bought it, I was torn because it is a smaller screen, but the picture was just GORGEOUS! I still love it and still can't seem to bring myself to replace it! So, in answer to your question, as far as I understand, CRT HDTV's do have the best picture quality.

Jeremy

PS. Only drawback? My TV weighs 200lbs!

I'm in the same boat as you!
I still have my Sony KV-35XBR48 which was built in Japan in 1998.
This TV has an exceptional picture and I currently have it hooked up to a HD satellite receiver set at 480i and it looks absoloutely stunning on the HD channels.

The TV weighs a tonne and it will probably never be moved again unless it gives up the ghost.
These TV's also have amazing speakers with impressive output.

Part of me wants it to last forever but the other part of me wants it to die so that it can be replaced with a nice Pioneer Kuro.

I don't think it will ever die though!
The build quality on these CRT XBR units is second to none.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:12 PM   #15
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Hello

The answer is perhaps confusing for the following reasons.

CRT Technology is superior to any other current display technology; for many reasons, which I am not getting into here. This is would include front projection, rear projection, and tube televisions, regardless whether you are comparing to other currently available technologies.

Where this gets tricky, is your specific reference to 1080p.

Please keep in mind that there are many issues relating to performance, hence picture quality, that affect image quality; which CRT Technology consistently and uniformly bests all other technologies currently available.

Only a few front projectors actually sync to a 1080p signal, therefore are able to display it.

Of those that do; it is the higher quality units, typically 9" CRT's, that are breathtaking 1080p!

Regardless though, CRT's are unequaled in overall picture quality, and this will be so, until either SED or FED Displays finally come to market.

I have personally seen SED sevaral times in the past, and it is absolutely an entierely different experience. Blu-ray on such displays would be like Ultra Blu-ray, and this is by no means and overstatement!

I hope that this is helpful, and offer my apology, that it is so brief, but to properly respond, would require several pages of detailing, and I am pressed for time, and uncertain of what the interest might be.

Thank You
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I'm using a Sony GDM-FW900 24" CRT widescreen monitor...i have yet to find anything affordable for a computer monitor that even comes close to what this this monitor can reproduce.


although i do own a philips 42" 1080p lcd tv, it was affordable and it has decent pq for an lcd...still no non-crt tech i have seen even compares to a high quality CRT monitor or TV.

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I have the Sony 34XBR960 which was about their last and top of the line HD CRT tube TV's. I have had it for a few years and I think it has the best picture quality of any TV I have ever seen. When I bought it, I was torn because it is a smaller screen, but the picture was just GORGEOUS! I still love it and still can't seem to bring myself to replace it! So, in answer to your question, as far as I understand, CRT HDTV's do have the best picture quality.

Jeremy

PS. Only drawback? My TV weighs 200lbs!
i still haven't seen a reasonable tv that looks better. i own the same tv
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:30 AM   #18
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I have the Sony 34XBR960 which was about their last and top of the line HD CRT tube TV's. I have had it for a few years and I think it has the best picture quality of any TV I have ever seen. When I bought it, I was torn because it is a smaller screen, but the picture was just GORGEOUS! I still love it and still can't seem to bring myself to replace it! So, in answer to your question, as far as I understand, CRT HDTV's do have the best picture quality.

Jeremy

PS. Only drawback? My TV weighs 200lbs!
The pinnacle of PQ. I have yet to see a better picture under 50 inches, regardless of the technology. But, man. That 60inch Kuro is hard to beat.
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I'm using a Sony GDM-FW900 24" CRT widescreen monitor...i have yet to find anything affordable for a computer monitor that even comes close to what this this monitor can reproduce.


although i do own a philips 42" 1080p lcd tv, it was affordable and it has decent pq for an lcd...still no non-crt tech i have seen even compares to a high quality CRT monitor or TV.
CRT is still number 1 in my book. I prefer my 26inch Samsung over my 42inch LCD. Better picture. Period. But I do prefer my fathers 62 inch Samsung 1080p DLP over my CRT. The size and 1080p makes up for the inferior contrast, and so, so, blacks..
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:00 AM   #20
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The PQ might be better but I had a nightmare with my XBR450 a few years ago. The geometry went sailing. When you watched widescreen movies the black bars were like ski slopes.

I would prefer a fixed pixel display type over CRT anyday. None of this "Earths magnetism causes distortion of the picture".
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