Pioneer PDP-5010FD vs 5020

[nugent]

I can get the 5010 at Sam's new in the box for $1,349. I am looking to get this for my parents. I know the 5020 has better black levels but is it worth the extra $$ over the 5010?

[wafi]

Originally Posted by nugent

I can get the 5010 at Sam's new in the box for $1,349. I am looking to get this for my parents. I know the 5020 has better black levels but is it worth the extra $$ over the 5010?

Depends on how much of a videophile[s] your parents are...personally I would go with the 5020.

[Sonny]

I went to 3 different Sams & found no sign of a 5010 anywhere... I have a 5020 & when I had all my displays 111FD,151FD & 5020(Grey Scale only of course) calibrated the 5020 was the most impressive (numbers wise, which translates to PQ) with a black level of 0.000fL out of 15 tests taken & an ANSI contrast ratio of, I believe 16,800.1 ! Sure the 5010 has more tweak-ability, but its up to you. Anyone with a 5020 knows there little secret. Even my calibrator was impressed he sees many more Elites in his line of work & has also done many 5010's.

[scweb13]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Anyone with a 5020 knows there little secret. Even my calibrator was impressed he sees many more Elites in his line of work & has also done many 5010's.

What is the little secret? PM me if you need to. I'm still on the fence with the 5020 or the 500m.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by nugent

I can get the 5010 at Sam's new in the box for $1,349. I am looking to get this for my parents. I know the 5020 has better black levels but is it worth the extra $$ over the 5010?

The Pioneer PDP-5020FD 2008 model has a better picture quality and 5X deeper blacks compared to the Pioneer PDP-5010FD 2007 model. If the model at Sam's is not factory refurbished and really is brand new that is an excellent deal. Even though the PDP-5010FD does not have as good of picture as the PDP-5020FD, the PDP-5010FD has more features. Pioneer removed features from the PDP-5020FD in order to make it cheaper in cost to manufactory. The advantage of the PDP-5010FD is that it has 2 component inputs instead of just one, also it has a built in A/B RF switch to switch between cable TV and an outdoor/indoor TV antenna, it also has a built in cablecard slot that allows consumers to subscribe to premium movie channels without the use of a Digital Cable box (of course Video on demand and TV guide are not supported since only a one way QAM tuner is used). The PDP-5020FD does not have those features that are highlighted above. Of course for some the above features are not important and picture quality is more important. The PRO-5020FD use to sell for $1,999.99 at Best Buy before they were sold out at most stores. Sam's use to have the Pioneer PDP-5010FD for around $2,200 or $2,400. They must be clearing them out at the $1,349 price you quoted. Back in 2007 the Pioneer PDP-5010FD sold for $5,000 list price when it first came out. The PDP-5020FD had a $4,000 list price when it first was released in 2008, the features removed from the 2008 PDP-5020FD model helped cut the cost of the display.

Here is a review of the PDP-5010FD from Sound and Vision magazine
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hdtvs/2486/pioneer-kuro-pdp-5010fd-50-inch-plasma-hdtv.html

[Sonny]

Many stand-alone BD players these days have picture adjustments such as Gamma & other tweaks that can make up for the lack of tons of settings on the 5020 compared to other sets,(not that it needs it for pristine PQ). This of course depends on your player, but try a self calibrate disc with the TV settings along with the ones in the player & you might be surprised at what you can do . This goes for all TV's & tweak-able BD players. To bad the PS3 just does not have many PQ settings.... That would make for a nice update!

[nugent]

Thanks for the responses. It appears the best price I can find on the 5020 is around $2,300. Yes Sam's is obviously clearing out the 5010's. The location I have had my eye on still has 4 brand new in the box. They have been steadily dropping the price.

My parents are in their 70's and not fussy. I got them a 50" Sony SXRD a little over 2 years ago. They have been very pleased with that set. I just figured I could sell that set and get this one for them for a minimal outlay.

I have the 60" SXRD myself and would love to get the 6020 but it is still over $4k everywhere. I just can't make myself pull the trigger at that price.

[scweb13]

Originally Posted by nugent

Thanks for the responses. It appears the best price I can find on the 5020 is around $2,300. Yes Sam's is obviously clearing out the 5010's. The location I have had my eye on still has 4 brand new in the box. They have been steadily dropping the price.

My parents are in their 70's and not fussy. I got them a 50" Sony SXRD a little over 2 years ago. They have been very pleased with that set. I just figured I could sell that set and get this one for them for a minimal outlay.

I have the 60" SXRD myself and would love to get the 6020 but it is still over $4k everywhere. I just can't make myself pull the trigger at that price.

Is that the in-store price? Best Buy still has the 5020 listed on their website for $1999 w/ free delivery.

[nugent]

The $2,300 is delivered from Vann's. The Sam's price with tax would be $1,443

If Best Buy still has the 5020 it would be $2,140 delivered.

Going that route the difference would be about $697 more for the 5020.

Just not sure it would be worth almost 50% more for the 5020.

Originally Posted by scweb13

Is that the in-store price? Best Buy still has the 5020 listed on their website for $1999 w/ free delivery.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by nugent

The $2,300 is delivered from Vann's. The Sam's price with tax would be $1,443

If Best Buy still has the 5020 it would be $2,140 delivered.

Going that route the difference would be about $697 more for the 5020.

Just not sure it would be worth almost 50% more for the 5020.

Its worth it, & you/or your parents will thank us later.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by nugent

The $2,300 is delivered from Vann's. The Sam's price with tax would be $1,443

If Best Buy still has the 5020 it would be $2,140 delivered.

Going that route the difference would be about $697 more for the 5020.

Just not sure it would be worth almost 50% more for the 5020.

I'd suggest to negotiate for free deliv from BB.

[nugent]

Originally Posted by wafi

I'd suggest to negotiate for free deliv from BB.

The price from Best Buy is with free shipping. The $140 is for sales tax.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by nugent

The price from Best Buy is with free shipping. The $140 is for sales tax.

Damn sales tax!

[nugent]

Update:

Both of the Sam's locations Where I saw the 5010 were sold out with the exception of one display model that runs all the time. I of course wanted no part of that.

I have been following the Sam's club auction site for the last few days and finally snagged one there.
It worked out like this. Auction closing price was $1,168 7% sales tax added 81.76 and shipping was $210. Final cost delivered to my parents home will be $1,459.76

They don't take Visa in Sam's clubs but they do at the Sam's auctions site. By using my Visa I will get an extra free year of warranty.

Yes it's not the latest model with the absolute blackest blacks but for under $1,500 for a set that originally retailed for $5k I am very happy with the purchase!

Thanks for all the input and suggestions.

Just in case anyone is interested here is a link to the 5010 auctions that are ongoing at Sam's.
Prices have ranged from $1,254 to the $1,168 mine closed at today. Plus of course the shipping and sales tax.

http://auctions.samsclub.com/Scripts...odname=1168285

[wafi]

Originally Posted by nugent

Update:

Both of the Sam's locations Where I saw the 5010 were sold out with the exception of one display model that runs all the time. I of course wanted no part of that.

I have been following the Sam's club auction site for the last few days and finally snagged one there.
It worked out like this. Auction closing price was $1,168 7% sales tax added 81.76 and shipping was $210. Final cost delivered to my parents home will be $1,459.76

They don't take Visa in Sam's clubs but they do at the Sam's auctions site. By using my Visa I will get an extra free year of warranty.

Yes it's not the latest model with the absolute blackest blacks but for under $1,500 for a set that originally retailed for $5k I am very happy with the purchase!

Thanks for all the input and suggestions.

Just in case anyone is interested here is a link to the 5010 auctions that are ongoing at Sam's.
Prices have ranged from $1,254 to the $1,168 mine closed at today. Plus of course the shipping and sales tax.

http://auctions.samsclub.com/Scripts...odname=1168285

Excellent job Nugent! Congrats on ur parents nu TV! Now we wait for you to upload some pics ofcourse!

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by nugent

Update:

Both of the Sam's locations Where I saw the 5010 were sold out with the exception of one display model that runs all the time. I of course wanted no part of that.

I have been following the Sam's club auction site for the last few days and finally snagged one there.
It worked out like this. Auction closing price was $1,168 7% sales tax added 81.76 and shipping was $210. Final cost delivered to my parents home will be $1,459.76

They don't take Visa in Sam's clubs but they do at the Sam's auctions site. By using my Visa I will get an extra free year of warranty.

Yes it's not the latest model with the absolute blackest blacks but for under $1,500 for a set that originally retailed for $5k I am very happy with the purchase!

Thanks for all the input and suggestions.

Just in case anyone is interested here is a link to the 5010 auctions that are ongoing at Sam's.
Prices have ranged from $1,254 to the $1,168 mine closed at today. Plus of course the shipping and sales tax.

http://auctions.samsclub.com/Scripts...odname=1168285

Sweet deal!! Welcome to the Kuro club!!

[nugent]

^ Yes I will have to take some pics once they get it delivered. I think I read where it may take a couple of weeks.

Now I am on the hunt for a 6020 for me!

I know a few months back you could get a 6020 for around 3k via Buy.com.
The darn things seem to have gone up since the announcement about Pioneer getting out of the plasma market. If I can't get one at a "reasonable" price I will just hold off a while and look at the Panasonic's down the road. I have a 60" SXRD and just can't go back to a smaller size.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by nugent

^ Yes I will have to take some pics once they get it delivered. I think I read where it may take a couple of weeks.

Now I am on the hunt for a 6020 for me!

I know a few months back you could get a 6020 for around 3k via Buy.com.
The darn things seem to have gone up since the announcement about Pioneer getting out of the plasma market. If I can't get one at a "reasonable" price I will just hold off a while and look at the Panasonic's down the road. I have a 60" SXRD and just can't go back to a smaller size.

You could always sit a lil closer and get the 111FD! I just wouldnt wanna have you miss out on perfection!