Best Available BD Player

[The Guardian]

PS3:
Pros - Loads fast, easily updateable, pretty good quality
Cons - no analog outs, can't bitstream HD formats, no IR remote by default, fan noise, can't disable net connectivity for BDs if you don't want it, heat, slot-loading of discs

If you want best period, the Denon 3808 is a little slower at loading, but has far better quality and if I'm not mistaken has none of the Cons of the PS3.

I know most of those cons are nitpicking, and I use a PS3 myself, but it just bugs me when people are like there's absolutely nothing wrong with the PS3. Sure I'll upgrade my receiver *eventually* but what if I want to enjoy the HD audio NOW?

I'll be looking at picking up one of the new Pioneer Elite players when they come out (later this month?)... looks to be almost as good as the Denon for only $800...