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Red Dragon · 11-17-2014, 11:15 PM

just finished checking out my replacement blu-ray discs and everything is fine! All is wonderful with the world once again!!

Viva Criterion!!!

themoviefanatic · 11-17-2014, 11:23 PM

any news on when they might stop replacing disks?
Any reason I need to be urgent about it?

BohemianGraham · 11-17-2014, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Yes, but look at Sammy's picture, it doesn't even have the movie title on it, LOL!!!

Probably because it's not even Howards End:

It's The Seventh Seal.

jscoggins · 11-17-2014, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Probably because it's not even Howards End:

[Show spoiler]

It's The Seventh Seal.

jayembee · 11-17-2014, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Slikkbradd

any news on when they might stop replacing disks?
Any reason I need to be urgent about it?

There's no reason to believe that the replacement offer is limited-time-only unless they specifically announce it as so, which they haven't done yet.

SammyJankis · 11-18-2014, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Probably because it's not even Howards End:

It's The Seventh Seal.

Haha, yep.

Lino11 · 11-18-2014, 03:24 AM

Got my replacements in, as well. Gonna send three more out now (the OOP's)!!!

jw007 · 11-18-2014, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lino11

Got my replacements in, as well. Gonna send three more out now (the OOP's)!!!

As will I!

So glad to see that Criterion was able to send replacement discs for OOP titles.

Illy Scorsese · 11-18-2014, 04:36 PM

Ok, so I finally got the chance to check my Criterions on the List.

This is what I've Got:

"8 1/2": IFPI LB42

"Che Part 1": IFPI LB42

"Che Part 2": IFPI L021

"Days of Heaven": IFPI LB42

"Kagemusha": IFPI L021

"The Seventh Seal": IFPI L021

"Stagecoach": IFPI L021

"Yojimbo" & "Sanjuro": IFPI LB42

At the moment, I don't currently see any bronzing...

But does my Discs having those IFPI's mean I should be worried?

neo_reloaded · 11-18-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lino11

Got my replacements in, as well. Gonna send three more out now (the OOP's)!!!

What's the 3rd oop disc? (the two I know are Howard's End and Pierrot le fou)

I hope they do an updated list with Last Year At Marienbad on it soon. My copy is fine for now, but it's from the bad pressing plant - that's my #1 favorite movie of all time, so I really want to make sure I have a copy that will last.

Brian81 · 11-18-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Illy Scorsese

Ok, so I finally got the chance to check my Criterions on the List.

This is what I've Got:

"8 1/2": IFPI LB42

"Che Part 1": IFPI LB42

"Che Part 2": IFPI L021

"Days of Heaven": IFPI LB42

"Kagemusha": IFPI L021

"The Seventh Seal": IFPI L021

"Stagecoach": IFPI L021

"Yojimbo" & "Sanjuro": IFPI LB42

At the moment, I don't currently see any bronzing...

But does my Discs having those IFPI's mean I should be worried?

Those are all from the affected batches, so I'd just be sure to check them every now and then. Whether visually inspecting the disc and/or playing them.

jayembee · 11-18-2014, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Illy Scorsese

Ok, so I finally got the chance to check my Criterions on the List.

[snip]

At the moment, I don't currently see any bronzing...

But does my Discs having those IFPI's mean I should be worried?

Those are all worrisome IFPIs, but my inclination is to think that if they haven't started bronzing yet, they probably won't. Oxidation would start virtually from the moment they came off the press, and its been four years since that happened.

However...you shouldn't just assume that if there's no bronzing that they are OK. All but one of the titles in my collection with those codes are still fine (no bronzing, no playback errors, no errors from sector and file scans). The one that isn't (Kagemusha) shows no sign of bronzing, but has playback errors, as well as racking up a serious number of sector scan errors.

Anyway, there are certainly no guarantees. So you should probably keep an eye on them. There's no reason to think that Criterion won't replace them a year or more from now if they later show problems.

joie · 11-18-2014, 07:31 PM

Received a replacement for 8 1/2 -- was badly bronzed and had playability issues. I did email them before sending it, and they replied asking me to mail them my disc.

mande2013 · 11-18-2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by joie

Received a replacement for 8 1/2 -- was badly bronzed and had playability issues. I did email them before sending it, and they replied asking me to mail them my disc.

I don't know what the deal is, but I've e-mailed Criterion two or three times within the past 2-3 weeks, and I have yet to get a response to any of the e-mails.

Does it all just come down to luck, whether or not they actually respond? Should I use a certain subject that'll grab their attention?

jscoggins · 11-18-2014, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illy Scorsese

Ok, so I finally got the chance to check my Criterions on the List.

This is what I've Got:

[Show spoiler]

At the moment, I don't currently see any bronzing...

But does my Discs having those IFPI's mean I should be worried?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayembee

However...you shouldn't just assume that if there's no bronzing that they are OK. All but one of the titles in my collection with those codes are still fine (no bronzing, no playback errors, no errors from sector and file scans). The one that isn't (Kagemusha) shows no sign of bronzing, but has playback errors, as well as racking up a serious number of sector scan errors.

Yes, as jayembee and many others have noted, bronzing is only one possible indicator of a bad disc. Some discs look fine but don't play at all. Some discs have bronzing but can still play. Either way, these discs are all suspect and should be replaced, period. Why wait? Who's to say that Criterion will keep going back to the factories to press more discs, especially the OOP ones?

Simon_LDT · 11-18-2014, 09:16 PM

Those with the new discs (especially Howard's End), what are the codes on them?

Deep · 11-18-2014, 09:30 PM

Anyone still waiting for the replacement discs ? I have not received my Summer Hours replacement yet.

-D

Namuhana · 11-18-2014, 10:24 PM

I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I have 8 1/2, M, and The Seventh Seal, but I can't seem to find the suspect IFPI codes.

The codes for the copies I have are:

8 1/2: L324
M: L324
The Seventh Seal: L323

And, I'm also colorblind, so I can't quite tell whether or not the discs are bronzing. Can anyone let me know if these are the bad codes?

wormraper · 11-18-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mande2013

I don't know what the deal is, but I've e-mailed Criterion two or three times within the past 2-3 weeks, and I have yet to get a response to any of the e-mails.

Does it all just come down to luck, whether or not they actually respond? Should I use a certain subject that'll grab their attention?

welcome to my world. I emailed several times and have gotten jack crap for a response.

Feiereisel · 11-18-2014, 10:40 PM

@worm & mande:

Would it be getting flagged as spam for some reason? Even my gmail address sometimes gets shifted to the spam folder of people's inboxes, depending on the client they're using.

My subject line read: "Summer Hours blu-ray".

I'm going to send off an email about my futzy Gomorrah tonight, see what they say about it. I know people have had luck with other non-listed titles, but has anyone inquired about Gomorrah specifically?

11-17-2014, 11:15 PM	#1781
Red Dragon Special Member Member since:Mar 2011 Location:North Charleston, South Carolina Blu-ray collection:324	A quick note... just finished checking out my replacement blu-ray discs and everything is fine! All is wonderful with the world once again!! Viva Criterion!!!

11-17-2014, 11:23 PM	#1782
themoviefanatic Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray collection:4 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:459	any news on when they might stop replacing disks? Any reason I need to be urgent about it?

11-18-2014, 03:24 AM	#1787
Lino11 Active Member Member since:May 2010 4K collection:122 Blu-ray collection:1152 DVD collection:164 Trading Score:85	Got my replacements in, as well. Gonna send three more out now (the OOP's)!!!

11-18-2014, 04:36 PM	#1789
Illy Scorsese Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:141 Trading Score:86	Ok, so I finally got the chance to check my Criterions on the List. This is what I've Got: "8 1/2": IFPI LB42 "Che Part 1": IFPI LB42 "Che Part 2": IFPI L021 "Days of Heaven": IFPI LB42 "Kagemusha": IFPI L021 "The Seventh Seal": IFPI L021 "Stagecoach": IFPI L021 "Yojimbo" & "Sanjuro": IFPI LB42 At the moment, I don't currently see any bronzing... But does my Discs having those IFPI's mean I should be worried?

11-18-2014, 07:31 PM	#1793
joie Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Blu-ray collection:1 DVD collection:1	Received a replacement for 8 1/2 -- was badly bronzed and had playability issues. I did email them before sending it, and they replied asking me to mail them my disc.

11-18-2014, 09:16 PM	#1796
Simon_LDT Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Coventry, UK 4K collection:193 Blu-ray collection:1186 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:34	Those with the new discs (especially Howard's End), what are the codes on them?

11-18-2014, 09:30 PM	#1797
Deep Active Member Member since:Jun 2011	Anyone still waiting for the replacement discs ? I have not received my Summer Hours replacement yet. -D

11-18-2014, 10:24 PM	#1798
Namuhana Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2011 Location:Cincinnati 4K collection:92 Blu-ray collection:1049 DVD collection:64 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:1	I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I have 8 1/2, M, and The Seventh Seal, but I can't seem to find the suspect IFPI codes. The codes for the copies I have are: 8 1/2: L324 M: L324 The Seventh Seal: L323 And, I'm also colorblind, so I can't quite tell whether or not the discs are bronzing. Can anyone let me know if these are the bad codes?

11-18-2014, 10:40 PM	#1800
Feiereisel Senior Member Member since:Jan 2013 Location:The Chicago suburbs 4K collection:251 Blu-ray collection:1244 DVD collection:160 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:4	@worm & mande: Would it be getting flagged as spam for some reason? Even my gmail address sometimes gets shifted to the spam folder of people's inboxes, depending on the client they're using. My subject line read: "Summer Hours blu-ray". I'm going to send off an email about my futzy Gomorrah tonight, see what they say about it. I know people have had luck with other non-listed titles, but has anyone inquired about Gomorrah specifically?

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