Fright Night (1985) (30th Anniversary Edition) (Limited Edition) - SOLD OUT

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by canneryrowdoc

When Sony makes a deal with TT, I wonder if they get a fee upfront for the 3000-5000 blu rays? Or only if they sell out?

I would think that Sony would be digging around their back catalog looking for 70's-90's genre stuff since that seems like a slam dunk for both of them. And as Fright Night is proving you can cash in 3 years later again.

TT pays the full licensing costs upfront prior to a release.

[Blu Myers]

I looked at the first release as a lesson...be prepared. It was my own fault for missing out, plain and simple. I made sure to get a copy this time around. So it does confuse me when people come in here and complain that they missed out. When Body Double was announced, I made sure I was able to get a copy, which I did.

This release did sellout really fast, but 2 days is still plenty of time to get your order in if you're prepared, especially since this was bound to be a hot seller given the first time around.

\end rant.

Oh and btw, you can get both Fright Night and Christine from Amazon Germany for $25 shipped.

[MTRodaba2468]

Originally Posted by Khemin

Missed out again because...again...this damned website made no mention that it was a limited release! When this was announced, all it said was that it would be generally released on January 20. Why say that if the release can never happen because it is limited and will already be sold out LONG BEFORE the "release date"?

Sony didn't release this title. Twilight Time did. Every Twilight Time release is a limited edition. It's been that way from the beginning. I'm sorry you missed out, but in this case, it's really a matter of keeping yourself better informed.

At least you can still import the German release. It won't have the extras that TT's version does, but it's region free, and would certainly be cheaper to obtain than the TT release...

Originally Posted by Blu Myers

I looked at the first release as a lesson...be prepared. It was my own fault for missing out, plain and simple. So it does confuse me when people come in here and complain that they missed out. When Body Double was announced, I made sure I was able to get a copy, which I did.

This release did sellout really fast, but 2 days is still plenty of time to get your order in if you're prepared, especially since this was bound to be a hot seller given the first time around.

\end rant.

Agreed. So far, I've been able to get every OOP TT release, prior to it selling out, just by keeping myself informed.

[deltatauhobbit]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Same here. I keep hearing how BBY is downsizing but I've yet to see any shrinkage in the local BBYs I've visited over the past 5-6 years.

Lucky you, the two closest Best Buys have about 1/5 of the selection it used to, that includes both blu and DVD. They used to store all their movies on the side so you had to go by the spine, now they store them facing forward and have removed a few rows.

One of the stores have actually decreased their footprint, they built a partition within their building and shrunk their store floor by 1/2. They use the other half for storage I guess. Not sure why they'd do something like that, they're paying rent for the entire building, why not use it to actually move product.

Still not as bad as Walmart though. My first stop is the local movie/music stores followed by the internet and finally the big box stores.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

I think horror/sci-fi fans tend to "collect" movies a lot more than others... seems like titles like The Blob, Fright Night, Christine, Rollerball, etc all seem to have people in a panic mode to get them asap whenever TT starts offering them....

Yes, this.

I totally get that deep catalog material is a very niche product on blu ray. I get why this model (or the Kino and Shout models) work better than a wide release for some studios. However I do think with a genre/horror/sci-fi movie TT would be be better off upping their numbers. As this quick sellout shows they could have done 8,000 or even 10,000 Fright Nights and still sold out eventually, and that would give fans more time to buy. Same with a big actor like Eastwood in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.

3,000 makes sense for a majority of their titles, but they should use common sense and up the quantity on these more collectible genre films. Luckily they seem to know that and used 5,000 twice now, hopefully they try 7 or 8,000 eventually as well.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Yes, this.

I totally get that deep catalog material is a very niche product on blu ray. I get why this model (or the Kino and Shout models) work better than a wide release for some studios. However I do think with a genre/horror/sci-fi movie TT would be be better off upping their numbers. As this quick sellout shows they could have done 8,000 or even 10,000 Fright Nights and still sold out eventually, and that would give fans more time to buy. Same with a big actor like Eastwood in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.

3,000 makes sense for a majority of their titles, but they should use common sense and up the quantity on these more collectible genre films. Luckily they seem to know that and used 5,000 twice now, hopefully they try 7 or 8,000 eventually as well.

Wonder why they didn't go with 5,000 like The Blob? Maybe they thought it wouldn't sell as fast since it's a re-release.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by rickah88

If Redman is comparing a dvd that sold during the height of the dvd boom to a potential BD sale in 2013, that's just even more of a headscratcher! We all know dvd just fell into the "perfect storm" of events to be wildly successful. Most industry experts, and pundits, had a feeling that BD(when it finally won the format war) couldn't come close to replicating those great dvd selling years.
Again I'm not disagreeing with Redman, not at all. We, BD enthusiasts, see these "warning signs" for catalog releases every year. Which is why, every year, I'm extremely happy with what I can get.

That's kind of the point though, because of the DVD "boom" these blu ray catalog sales are seen as super diappointing and niche. Either people aren't collecting anymore or they're happy with their DVDs for older movies. Either way the sales aren't there for blu ray like the studios wanted, and 4k blu ray is surely destined for laserdisc style niche status.

Twilight Time and Scream Factory are the future of disc media, for better or for worse.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

That's kind of the point though, because of the DVD "boom" these blu ray catalog sales are seen as super diappointing and niche. Either people aren't collecting anymore or they're happy with their DVDs for older movies. Either way the sales aren't there for blu ray like the studios wanted, and 4k blu ray is surely destined for laserdisc style niche status.

Twilight Time and Scream Factory are the future of disc media, for better or for worse.

You have to factor in extenuating circumstances. For example dvd had:

1) No direct format competing, right out of the gate
2) The economy was much, much better
3) the jump from vhs to dvd, was much more impressive than the jump from dvd to BD
4) dvd media, dvd players, dvd burners etc all dropped in price much faster than BD
5) one of the cheapest/easiest forms of date storage, and still is to this day

That's why it's known as a perfect storm for dvd to succeed, back in the late 90's.
So comparing two different formats, from two different decades(if that's, in fact, what he's doing) is like apples to oranges. At least in my opinion.
4k? That's a whole different ballgame.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by rickah88

You have to factor in extenuating circumstances. For example dvd had:

1) No direct format competing, right out of the gate
2) The economy was much, much better
3) the jump from vhs to dvd, was much more impressive than the jump from dvd to BD
4) dvd media, dvd players, dvd burners etc all dropped in price much faster than BD
5) one of the cheapest/easiest forms of date storage, and still is to this day

That's why it's known as a perfect storm for dvd to succeed, back in the late 90's.
So comparing two different formats, from two different decades(if that's, in fact, what he's doing) is like apples to oranges. At least in my opinion.
4k? That's a whole different ballgame.

I agree with everything you said, I just think that's also the reason why studios are largely apathetic about catalog titles on blu ray. There being logical reasons for the lower-than-expected sales doesn't make the studios change their mind about their reaction.

I'd love for 4k to take off, I really would, but with digital taking over so quickly and the fact so many don't even see 1080p blu ray as a big upgrade I'm not sure I can muster much optimism.

[Retroj23]

Lol! I just saw a posting of this edition on eBay for $300.00.

Some of these scalpers must think people are

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by popeflick

The irony in this post is pretty plain: it took me 5 seconds to find out that Walmart has 5000 stores nationwide, including Sams Clubs in those numbers. So who's pulling what out of where?

Also Walmart would want to sell it for $9.99, giving the studio $4 or so.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I agree with everything you said, I just think that's also the reason why studios are largely apathetic about catalog titles on blu ray. There being logical reasons for the lower-than-expected sales doesn't make the studios change their mind about their reaction.

I'd love for 4k to take off, I really would, but with digital taking over so quickly and the fact so many don't even see 1080p blu ray as a big upgrade I'm not sure I can muster much optimism.

I knew I was forgetting another factor, and that was streaming.
You take all that into consideration, I'm amazed we have as much on BD as we do these days.
As for Redman positing only the boutique labels will be left standing, in terms of BD catalog releases, I don't buy into that at all. I have no idea what happened with Sony. They were on the front lines, with the introduction of blu-ray. They should've had a stranglehold on BD catalog releases, but they just dropped right off the map. I guess due to other areas of Sony underperforming. I see WB/Universal/Fox all motoring right along, for better or worse.
No doubt Redman knows much more than I do, but I'll press the panic button when 3 or 4 months roll by with no big studios announcing BD catalog releases.

[86Olympics]

Up to $300 for the recent 30th release.

~$40 for the German release.

These quacks on ebay are out of their minds.

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I guess due to other areas of Sony underperforming. I see WB/Universal/Fox all motoring right along, for better or worse.

My money is on this. It's been known for over a year now that Sony Pictures is a foot or two away from going under. I wouldn't be surprised if they slowed down/stopped production of Blu-ray titles until they can maybe pull themselves back together financially.

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by 86Olympics

Up to $300 for the recent 30th release.

~$40 for the German release.

These quacks on ebay are out of their minds.

It shows just how f***ing stupid most of these internet age scalpers are. Probably a bunch of spoiled kids to be honest. So many copies of the three different releases on Ebay and they put it up for a ridiculous price that no one would pay for unless it was the very last copy available...which it won't be. Hell, there were still Ebay listings for the first release up until this new one.

I smile knowing that some scalpers paid money for x amount of copies that they won't get anything back on.

[Dylan34]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

Shockingly enough Barnes & Noble stocks a huge amount of catalog Sony Blus usually always with sale prices. They are usually in sections under discount banners. Still Sony has just about all but given up on older catalog titles. Shocked that something like John Carpenter's Vampires wasn't release dying for the TT U-Turn that has been one of my BLU holy grail titles since BLUs started coming out.

But yeah Best Buy stocks hardly anything anymore. If it isn't a huge hit movie or a new release that store is not worthwhile as much anymore. Sad really I liked browsing for titles years ago.

My best buy is back in action again with blu-ray. They have a crap load of titles now; box sets, steelbooks, and as of right now a nice horror section. I picked up Carrie and Return of the Living Dead last night. Plus, I finally bought the Superman collection from them for 60 bucks on sale, couldn't believe it!!! I hope they stay that way. Next paycheck, I'm hitting them again!!!!

[Amoeba626]

You I don't know why people are upset that their sold out now, so much time to order it and so much time in advance about the release date, I can understand if your new to twilight time and their releases, but boys and girls this is what collecting is all about!!! I can't wait till the 20th and this ships out and the mailman greets me at the door with this phenomenal release

[MTRodaba2468]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Wonder why they didn't go with 5,000 like The Blob? Maybe they thought it wouldn't sell as fast since it's a re-release.

They did go with 5,000 copies for this version of Fright Night. It still sold out in a little over two days.

[Marv Inc.]

I'am sure they'll be another re-re-release in three years.

[Retroj23]

Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468

They did go with 5,000 copies for this version of Fright Night. It still sold out in a little over two days.

Fright Night is/was a popular film amongst horror fans, hence the sell outs. The Blob took some time to sell out which was surprising to me since I thought it was more of a favorite than FN. My guess is when Christine gets re-released it too will be gone in one or two days.