Fright Night (1985) (30th Anniversary Edition) (Limited Edition) - SOLD OUT

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by luis figo

Why do you think the color is accurate in the 30th anniversary?
I think the detail looks slighty better but the color seems more accurate in the original Twilight release. The skin tones look too pale and unnatural in the new release.

Only Roddy looks super pale and he's supposed to. Everyone else looks very normal, and flesh tones look better here than before.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Only Roddy looks super pale and he's supposed to. Everyone else looks very normal, and flesh tones look better here than before.

Agreed.

[luis figo]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Only Roddy looks super pale and he's supposed to. Everyone else looks very normal, and flesh tones look better here than before.

Sarandon looks too pale aswell, he's a dark skinned guy.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by luis figo

Sarandon looks too pale aswell, he's a dark skinned guy.

I don't agree with you he looks too pale. Not at all.

In either case we shouldn't hold the previous transfer up as the standard. That happens a lot around here. Unless you have a photographic memory of the original theatrical screening it's almost impossible to say how the movie "should" look. To me the new transfer looks perfect, color and contrast wise. To others it might look too bright because they're used to the previous disc. Who can say, really.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Nah

I don't sugarcoat anything! I tell it like it is.

[luis figo]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I don't agree with you he looks too pale. Not at all.

In either case we shouldn't hold the previous transfer up as the standard. That happens a lot around here. Unless you have a photographic memory of the original theatrical screening it's almost impossible to say how the movie "should" look. To me the new transfer looks perfect, color and contrast wise. To others it might look too bright because they're used to the previous disc. Who can say, really.

Ok, maybe he doesn't look pale but i deffinitely think his skin tone looks lighter than it should.

But fair enough, horses for courses.

[schlock]

I love how everyone used to consider the earlier release perfect, but now that there's this alternate color-timed transfer with better detail, the original release is supposedly completely wrong now, at least color-wise.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by schlock

I love how everyone used to consider the earlier release perfect, but now that there's this alternate color-timed transfer with better detail, the original release is supposedly completely wrong now, at least color-wise.

it is not necessarily wrong, it just does not look color corrected in comparison. It had a very obvious red push throughout compared to the more neutral new release. Combine that with the lower brightness and the old release looks more artificial and boosted to me.

it is possible to improve on a very good transfer, and that is what I believe is the case here.

also, on another note if you are not using a fully calibrated display you are not going to see accurate colors regardless.

[Goremeister100]

Originally Posted by schlock

I love how everyone used to consider the earlier release perfect, but now that there's this alternate color-timed transfer with better detail, the original release is supposedly completely wrong now, at least color-wise.

Yeah, that's what I can't figure out. I guess most people don't want to admit they bought a mis-fire.

The thing about having a calibrated tv is a load of crap. A friend of mine has a calibrated tv and mine isn't and the first BD release looks the same on both. Calibrated is just an excuse to have you pay more money.

Also, boosting the contrast isn't anything new. Companies have been doing it for a while now to make their release different from blu-rays that are already out there. Second Sight is known for this. Also, if a version is out that has boosted contrast then you can be sure that when another release comes it it will be on the dark side. The US BD of POSSESSION is a prime example. The Second Sight BD was praised when it came out but when the Mondo Vision BD was released (and it was quite darker than the UK disc) then all of a sudden that one was the better transfer. No one is ever happy.

[Funcha]

Originally Posted by slimdude

This is exactly like The Pied Piper of Hamelin...If it wasn't for one person, NOBODY would've notice this alleged compression issue (whatever the hell that is). So why all of a sudden, it's such a big deal to everybody now! There is not a damn thing that anybody can do about it. As I've said before, if you don't want the blu-ray, resell it. Problem solved. For those who already have the first blu-ray release, this is what you get. If you're going to keep the blu-ray, stop complaining!

I've really been against all the people "complaining" about the various things they dislike about Twilight Time in general. But, considering there are obvious flaws on this release that could have been easily resolved with a more careful encoding job, I think they deserve to be called out for it. Again, this is a PREMIUM $34.95 product, so a bit more QC would have been warranted to better justify the price. This isn't a case of the film print having some issues or something outside of their control to rectify.

Whether or not Twilight Time even bothers to address these issues, enough people raise a stink, maybe they'll put more efforts into future releases to keep this from happening. Also, don't really want to hear the "Well, just be grateful you got this at all" argument, because with Scream Factory and other labels showing there still is a market for cult films on Blu, I'm not going to get down on my hands and knees and praise Twilight Time just for releasing it.

[Ray O. Blu]

Originally Posted by Funcha

Whether or not Twilight Time even bothers to address these issues, enough people raise a stink, maybe they'll put more efforts into future releases to keep this from happening.

That's what most folks thought after the NOTLD90 debacle!

[BrandonJF]

Originally Posted by slimdude

This is exactly like The Pied Piper of Hamelin...If it wasn't for one person, NOBODY would've notice this alleged compression issue (whatever the hell that is). So why all of a sudden, it's such a big deal to everybody now! There is not a damn thing that anybody can do about it. As I've said before, if you don't want the blu-ray, resell it. Problem solved. For those who already have the first blu-ray release, this is what you get. If you're going to keep the blu-ray, stop complaining!

You are the one continually trying to make a "big deal" out of it. The rest of us are having a civil discussion. Who has said they "don't want" the Blu-Ray? Nobody that I've seen so far. It is possible to state an issue with a disc without going to the extremes you seem to want to pretend everyone else is going to.

If you can't handle people discussing technical aspects of the release, just avoid the thread. What more are you looking for out of this thread at this point? You're happy with the release, you don't want to read any comments about technical issues.... are you looking for more shipping updates? What would you like to discuss?

[jstxanothrxstory]

At least we didn't get an overly blue tint on all the daytime scenes in this release.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Goremeister100

Yeah, that's what I can't figure out. I guess most people don't want to admit they bought a mis-fire.

Perhaps some people don't want to admit they did *not* buy a better looking release they now *cannot* buy since it is sold out. Rationalization of passing on a bluray they can no longer buy. I didn't even pay for my FN 30th (traded another BD I had an extra of for it) so I have no agenda.

The thing about having a calibrated tv is a load of crap. A friend of mine has a calibrated tv and mine isn't and the first BD release looks the same on both. Calibrated is just an excuse to have you pay more money.

How can you comment on the color timing of a release if you own display isn't accurate in color reproduction?

[lolwut]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

because I'm tired of hearing people whine all the time.... make sense?

Originally Posted by AKORIS

I can't vent every 3 pages, yet everyone else can complain repeatedly about compression issues...(and other stuff)

I see. don't worry, I'm done commenting on this particular subject. Whine away.....

Give me a break. People weren't whining. They were simply reporting compression issues. All of the whining came from people like you that didn't want to hear about any flaws.

[BrandonJF]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Perhaps some people don't want to admit they did *not* buy a better looking release they now *cannot* buy since it is sold out. Rationalization of passing on a bluray they can no longer buy. I didn't even pay for my FN 30th so I have no agenda.

Come on. This is really getting silly at this point. The first two people who confirmed the issues owned both discs. We have more of a reason to WANT to prefer the new release (so we can sell the old release). I may still prefer the new release! It doesn't mean it's perfect, 'cuz it's not.

There's no way that some of the people really getting bent out of shape by any criticism are people who only own the newer release and don't want to hear that there is an imperfection in the new release that didn't exist in the old? The new release may overall be better than the old, so they should just calm down. I am still not sure where the proof is that the new brightness level/color is "correct", but, if so... great!

Like someone else pointed out, everyone was so happy with the original release - imagine the uproar if we could go back in time and post that the brightness/color timing is all wrong. People would've lost their minds.

[kkirk25]

Originally Posted by slimdude

This is exactly like The Pied Piper of Hamelin...If it wasn't for one person, NOBODY would've notice this alleged compression issue (whatever the hell that is). So why all of a sudden, it's such a big deal to everybody now! There is not a damn thing that anybody can do about it. As I've said before, if you don't want the blu-ray, resell it. Problem solved. For those who already have the first blu-ray release, this is what you get. If you're going to keep the blu-ray, stop complaining!

That's not true at all. I'm not big on the technical terms, but I noticed something weird going on in the clocks to the phone pan scene. That's the main reason why I came back into this thread (kind of sorry I did) to see if it was an issue or just my copy. Personally, I'm happy with the release and glad I finally own it. I'm not that upset about a couple seconds in a couple of scenes, but I understand why other people are upset about it.

Why are you having a meltdown regarding people talking about the issues of this release? Someone could easily tell you that if you don't like the complaining, then stay out of the thread (problem solved) or stop complaining about other people complaining (and now I'm complaining about you complaining about other people complaining).

[tama]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Perhaps some people don't want to admit they did *not* buy a better looking release they now *cannot* buy since it is sold out. Rationalization of passing on a bluray they can no longer buy. I didn't even pay for my FN 30th (traded another BD I had an extra of for it) so I have no agenda.



How can you comment on the color timing of a release if you own display isn't accurate in color reproduction?

Let me chime in here a bit. TT has reported that this is in fact the Master that was provided to them before. Now that I've had a chance to view some images I'm not seeing any major differences outside of a couple of changes.

1. The encoding job is slightly superior on the new disc. But in motion most may not see a clear difference.

2. The overall color isn't that much different. In fact if anything it looks like a slight gamma change may be a possibility for the slight alterations. Or it could be a slight shift in color pushing away from magenta.

3. The biggest difference is the brighter tone of the new disc which reveals some information that was previously concealed by the early's disc darker tone. I think some people may mistake seeing this extra detail as being the result of better encoding but that wouldn't be accurate.

Since they're both derived from the same master they share a lot of the same basic characteristics.

Each is great to own. Those who own the earlier disc still own a good disc. Those that missed out the first time also have a good disc.

I'm more curious as to if the change is the result of Sony doing something different or if the changes were the result of different encoding. To see a similar situation look at The Long Goodbye. Master was issued to Kino in the States and Arrow in the U.K. Same master, slightly different results.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by slimdude

I don't sugarcoat anything! I tell it like it is.

Every time he says this, all I can see is cartman on the Maury show saying "I do what what I want!"

[PowellPressburger]

Since they're both derived from the same master they share a lot of the same basic characteristics.

Do we know 100% that even though they are from the same MASTER that Columbia - Sony didn't make any of the tweaks to how it was presented on this disc?