Fright Night (1985) (30th Anniversary Edition) (Limited Edition) - SOLD OUT - Page 161 - Blu-ray Forum

BrandonJF · 01-31-2015, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Solid summary. Brief less-than-a-second-long macroblocking in two or three scenes but also a bit more detail and grain. Pick your poison.

I don't think anyone has said the compression issues only pop up in two to three scenes. Examples have been given from 4 scenes so far (with it happening multiple times in one of them). But, I don't think the examples are meant to represent the totality of the issues. If any of the given examples aren't distracting to someone, I'd guess that any other occurrences would be irrelevant.

RodChester · 01-31-2015, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

Just to follow up, I received a replacement clear case in the mail from Screen Archives today, so they must have gotten them in stock.

If anyone else received a damaged case, you might want to give them a call now.

Good to hear. I think I will try and get ahold of them too since my case arrived damaged.

wormraper · 01-31-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JMK

Fright Night 30th Anniversary Blu-ray Review

A reminder: this thread is being actively moderated.

A 3.5 on video quality??? The facebook rants against br.com is going to be legendary

The Great Owl · 01-31-2015, 08:26 PM

If the macroblocking had taken place during the scene where we see the prostitute's legs while she's getting out of the car instead of the scene with Chris Sarandon's legs, then I might have been more inclined to take issue with this release.

As is, I'm quite pleased with this Blu-ray.

StingingVelvet · 01-31-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonJF

I don't think anyone has said the compression issues only pop up in two to three scenes. Examples have been given from 4 scenes so far (with it happening multiple times in one of them). But, I don't think the examples are meant to represent the totality of the issues. If any of the given examples aren't distracting to someone, I'd guess that any other occurrences would be irrelevant.

I admit I have skipped large chunks of this thread, but even among those super angry about the issues I have only seen them talk about a few scenes. I don't think anyone has said it's a persistent issue throughout the film.

JoeBuck · 01-31-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

A 3.5 on video quality??? The facebook rants against br.com is going to be legendary

Its because blu-rage.com does this ALL THE TIME! NO MORE DISCS FOR YOU BLU-RAGE!
SCREW YOU GUYS, IM GOING HOME!

wormraper · 01-31-2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeBuck

Its because blu-rage.com does this ALL THE TIME! NO MORE DISCS FOR YOU BLU-RAGE!
SCREW YOU GUYS, IM GOING HOME!

Lol. The blu-rage.com line was pretty clever I do admit. I laughed

rdodolak · 01-31-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

A 3.5 on video quality??? The facebook rants against br.com is going to be legendary

The old release received a 3.5 for video quality too so they really can't complain too much.

deltatauhobbit · 01-31-2015, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Owl

If the macroblocking had taken place during the scene where we see the prostitute's legs while she's getting out of the car instead of the scene with Chris Sarandon's legs, then I might have been more inclined to take issue with this release.

Best post of this thread yet

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StingingVelvet · 01-31-2015, 08:54 PM

Sitting down and watching it on a 50" TV I would definitely say it's a 4.5 star visual experience. That 4k scan is lovely and everything pops with detail. The problem frames are barely noticeable in motion, so maybe knock a half-star off for them and call it a day.

That's me though. I'm sure projected to an insane 120" or whatever it looks a lot worse.

Irongod2112 · 01-31-2015, 09:04 PM

So here's a question...

Is the German import the same transfer as the Twilight Time 30th Anniversary
or is it the older darker transfer?

Does it have the macroblocking?

I really don't really care about extras for this movie,
so is the import my best option?

StingingVelvet · 01-31-2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Irongod2112

So here's a question...

Is the German import the same transfer as the Twilight Time 30th Anniversary
or is it the older darker transfer?

Does it have the macroblocking?

I really don't really care about extras for this movie,
so is the import my best option?

The import looks like the older TT release, yes. Whether that is the "best option" is an opinion though. I personally think the new transfer looks much better due to slightly enhanced grain and detail.

PrestigeWorldwide · 01-31-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Irongod2112

So here's a question...

Is the German import the same transfer as the Twilight Time 30th Anniversary
or is it the older darker transfer?

Does it have the macroblocking?

I really don't really care about extras for this movie,
so is the import my best option?

I think the German version looks better and there's no macroblocking that I can notice. I don't like the brighter look of the 30th anniversary edition. It's down to personal preference. Since you don't care about extras, the only downside to getting the German version is the lack of HD audio. It only has dolby digital 5.1.

Brett C · 01-31-2015, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ditcin

I agree. I just watched it on my OLED and didn't even notice it. I've sat through film in the theater, and paid ridiculous prices, and in the end saw prints in horrible condition. I still remember seeing a print of MASTER AND COMMMANDER that faded and most green, and PHANTOM OF THE OPERA faded and almost sepia - when I finally watched both upon their DVD first time release I couldn't believe the improvement.

I just turned up the saturation on the color 3 point for FRIGHT NIGHT and still can't believe how good this release is - there is most detail in the picture than I ever have seen - and I saw it in the theater upon original release.

For those not happy and do have a German BD release up for sale.

I saw the film in theaters myself, but in regards to the home video history of this title, I think the single biggest upgrade it ever received would be the Laserdisc coming from the VHS.
The PCM stereo track was a great plus, but the film getting the original aspect ratio back was a big deal , Pan and Scan was the single biggest evil in video for me in those days. The one shot that sticks in memory from this film was the mirror reflection shot as Sarandon leaves the mothers room, the composition of the shot was completely destroyed.

Mrlovkim · 01-31-2015, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PrestigeWorldwide

I think the German version looks better and there's no macroblocking that I can notice. I don't like the brighter look of the 30th anniversary edition. It's down to personal preference. Since you don't care about extras, the only downside to getting the German version is the lack of HD audio. It only has dolby digital 5.1.

What is macroblocking?

cropsy · 01-31-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by navydavey

Has anyone in the UK got their copy yet?

Really looking forward to getting mine as it's been a while since I've seen this great movie.

Got mine last week, well worth the wait mate, no matter what you read on here.

Mrlovkim · 01-31-2015, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cropsy

Got mine last week, well worth the wait mate, no matter what you read on here.

I bought three and was getting disappointed in what I have been reading. Missed the first time it was released but got the German one in September. I truly wont be able to see the quality on the new ones till I pick them up in June while visiting my parents then watch them on my HD TV in August.

StingingVelvet · 01-31-2015, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrlovkim

What is macroblocking?

Look at pic 19 in the new review. On his knee this is some blocky distortion for a frame or two. That is macroblocking.

Bluebolt · 01-31-2015, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrlovkim

What is macroblocking?

If you want to perceive the main problem with this release, it may be helpful to keep in mind the following language from the blu-ray.com review:

“[T]he anomalies don't manifest as traditional macroblocking and instead tend to show up as flashes of what almost looks like webbing…”

Ruined · 01-31-2015, 11:53 PM

I appreciate the official Blu-ray.com review not tearing apart this release as most people will not notice the issue. As others stated, it is not traditional macroblocking, just a couple of frames here and there that messes up the motion in pans.

The brightness issue remains a debate as TT never mentioned they were going to tinker with the brightness/color. I think the brightness helps in some areas, harms in others. It is possible it was done intentionally, but it could be a colorspace conversion issue too. The question is, what is correct - and if my life depended on it I would probably guess the original release had the correct color timing simply because there are others with similar timing.

In the end, stick with the original TT release if you have it. I think that one is the best - has solid video and the DTS-MA 5.1.

01-31-2015, 08:26 PM	#3204
The Great Owl Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Georgia 4K collection:924 Blu-ray collection:6033 DVD collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 255 Trading Score:6	If the macroblocking had taken place during the scene where we see the prostitute's legs while she's getting out of the car instead of the scene with Chris Sarandon's legs, then I might have been more inclined to take issue with this release. As is, I'm quite pleased with this Blu-ray.

01-31-2015, 08:54 PM	#3210
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:852 Blu-ray collection:2331 DVD collection:111 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:69	Sitting down and watching it on a 50" TV I would definitely say it's a 4.5 star visual experience. That 4k scan is lovely and everything pops with detail. The problem frames are barely noticeable in motion, so maybe knock a half-star off for them and call it a day. That's me though. I'm sure projected to an insane 120" or whatever it looks a lot worse.

01-31-2015, 09:04 PM	#3211
Irongod2112 Special Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:USA Trading Score:14	So here's a question... Is the German import the same transfer as the Twilight Time 30th Anniversary or is it the older darker transfer? Does it have the macroblocking? I really don't really care about extras for this movie, so is the import my best option?

01-31-2015, 11:53 PM	#3220
Ruined Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	I appreciate the official Blu-ray.com review not tearing apart this release as most people will not notice the issue. As others stated, it is not traditional macroblocking, just a couple of frames here and there that messes up the motion in pans. The brightness issue remains a debate as TT never mentioned they were going to tinker with the brightness/color. I think the brightness helps in some areas, harms in others. It is possible it was done intentionally, but it could be a colorspace conversion issue too. The question is, what is correct - and if my life depended on it I would probably guess the original release had the correct color timing simply because there are others with similar timing. In the end, stick with the original TT release if you have it. I think that one is the best - has solid video and the DTS-MA 5.1.

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