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View Poll Results: Do you want Blu-ray Audio?
Yes, and I own SACD and/or DVD-A titles 217 46.97%
Yes, and I never owned SACD and/or DVD-A titles 171 37.01%
No, and I own SACD and/or DVD-A titles 13 2.81%
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:32 PM   #1
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This topic makes me wonder why the hell sony took out super audio cd from ps3.
yea thers still the 80gig models left that have it, but those are not going to last long,and thats keeps it from reaching into millions of people homes......lost potential.
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:40 PM   #2
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It's not about new codecs, but a feature that would allow the player to start playing right away (like a CD). At least I think it is...
Blu-ray discs can already be authored to start playing right away. I have some Warner Bros. movie BDs that start as soon as they're inserted into the player. I don't even have to hit a "play" button.

Basically, there's no need for a new profile that is incompatible with existing Blu-ray players. There is no need to come up with some special, proprietary standard for audio-only BDs that require people to buy an entirely different Blu-ray player. Blu-ray audio can and should be made to work with existing players.

The electronics companies have been dragging their feet just getting BD Profile 2.0 players to market -which certainly helps sell lots more PS3 consoles. Standalone BD players probably still comprise a small minority of the total install base of Blu-ray capable devices (with PS3 making up the majority of BD capable devices). To add BD Profile 3.0 into the mix will just be counterproductive -especially if it doesn't even work with existing BD players or PS3 consoles.
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:52 PM   #3
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Basically, there's no need for a new profile that is incompatible with existing Blu-ray players.
Err, I was under the impression that profile 3.0 was perfectly compatible with existing players...that seems to be the idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu_Ray...layer_profiles

There are no memory requirements and no implementation of BD-J (which studios will probably not miss much). If my sources are correct; "Divertimenti" is the first BD Audio release and according to wikipedia has been confirmed to work on the PS3 (although they don't bother to mention the album in the article, just that one exists).
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Basically, there's no need for a new profile that is incompatible with existing Blu-ray players. There is no need to come up with some special, proprietary standard for audio-only BDs that require people to buy an entirely different Blu-ray player. Blu-ray audio can and should be made to work with existing players.
I agree whole-heartedly. No need to re-invent the wheel.

BD audio would be incredible though. It could give HD multi-channel audio another shot at succeeding. I love SACD's and DVD-A's but have been disappointed in the lack of selection in mainstream music (if you love classical music however, you're more than covered). I have the Dark Side of the Moon SACD and it sounds amazing, as do all my SACD's.

I very much enjoy listening to music on the home stereo system while working around the house or while entertaining. I don't even own an iPod or other such device. I'd much rather listen to music unfettered by headphones.
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Profile 3 is already compatible with all existing players....

its completely an audio format
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This topic makes me wonder why the hell sony took out super audio cd from ps3.
yea thers still the 80gig models left that have it, but those are not going to last long,and thats keeps it from reaching into millions of people homes......lost potential.
It was a cost cutting measure, nothing more and nothing less. Sony a few years ago was a very divided company where separate divisions wouldn't even take phone calls from other parts of the company. The only part of the company still keeping SACD alive is Sony in Japan. The rest of the company has given up on SACD. I don't expect future iterations of the PS3 to have SACD capability.
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It was a cost cutting measure, nothing more and nothing less. Sony a few years ago was a very divided company where separate divisions wouldn't even take phone calls from other parts of the company. The only part of the company still keeping SACD alive is Sony in Japan. The rest of the company has given up on SACD. I don't expect future iterations of the PS3 to have SACD capability.
I just read this Forbes article on how Blu Ray managed to assassinate HD DVD...

http://www.forbes.com/technology/for.../0811/096.html

And they mention the deep company divisions you speak of...and how they had to come together to work the system in Blu Ray's favor. Whodda thought they would have so many divisions in the company?

Secondly, I've mentioned before that there is also some talk about the divisions within Sony Computer Entertainment...which is why it's easier to develop a game for a toaster than it is for the PS3....
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