Wow I'm glad I waited to buy my 4k UHD TV

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Football hooligans from another club team giving payback to Leeds United supporters for past indiscretions?

You’re young, a new career Beck-ons…. http://www.qualinet.eu/index.php?opt...d=35&Itemid=44

Burnistoun - 2 Litre Bottle of Ginger Sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZth...ature=youtu.be

More Rangers if any club

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

More Rangers if any club

Sorry to hear that….http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/

Bye Bye Rangers... Celtic Song - YouTube

Until you become more open-minded to HDR, I’ll be rooting for Edinburgh on April 5….http://spfl.co.uk/championship/

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sorry to hear that….http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/

Bye Bye Rangers... Celtic Song - YouTube


Until you become more open-minded to HDR, I’ll be rooting for Edinburgh on April 5….http://spfl.co.uk/championship/

Its not being closed minded, more all I have seen of it I disliked
Plus none of the films in my top 100 were shot with it

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Its not being closed minded, more all I have seen of it I disliked
Plus none of the films in my top 100 were shot with it

Were they shot digitally? If they were on film HDR is there as standard. It's just the way film works, film captured what's there. In fact film will capture far beyond what HDR will display, UHDR will be right behind HDR.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Were they shot digitally? If they were on film HDR is there as standard. It's just the way film works, film captured what's there. In fact film will capture far beyond what HDR will display, UHDR will be right behind HDR.

Not true at all, it would depend on the cinematographers intentions

[Opips3]

A broadcast television has HD now, not yet 4K my guess in 2020's i stick to a movie native 4K uhd bd format in late 2015.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Opips3

A broadcast television has HD now, not yet 4K my guess in 2020's i stick to a movie native 4K uhd bd format in late 2015.

They barely have HD

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Its not being closed minded, more all I have seen of it I disliked
Plus none of the films in my top 100 were shot with it

I don’t think you’ve seen enough samples in a proper viewing environment in order to make an informed judgment, but be that as it may, I do empathize with your concern in regards to HDR remastering of ‘old films’….especially given past misleading statements bordering on outright lies by some Hollywood studio executives with regards to other (non-HDR) remastering projects….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ve#post9553148

But mike, can we ? please be a bit more open minded, or at least HDR-friendly and not disparaging, regarding HDR grading and mastering for new films having honest direct filmmaker involvement, for they appear to like the new tool…https://vimeo.com/123370017?adbsc=so...adbpr=15851618

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I don’t think you’ve seen enough samples in a proper viewing environment in order to make an informed judgment, but be that as it may, I do empathize with your concern in regards to HDR remastering of ‘old films’….especially given past misleading statements bordering on outright lies by some Hollywood studio executives with regards to other (non-HDR) remastering projects….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ve#post9553148

But mike, can we ? please be a bit more open minded, or at least HDR-friendly and not disparaging, regarding HDR grading and mastering for new films having honest direct filmmaker involvement, for they appear to like the new tool…https://vimeo.com/123370017?adbsc=so...adbpr=15851618

Good points.

Personally, HDR is just like any other tool. Technically, it is a wonderful concept. More dynamic range on the display side means you are getting closer to what was captured on the original film or digital camera.

But, like anything, it can be abused. DNR, used very, very, very (sense a trend? ) sparingly, can help an image. As we know, movies look like garbage if overused. I suppose HDR could be abused, too, if it was utilized to "jack up" the contrast in an older movie to the point where it doesn't look at all what it's supposed to.

Keep in mind that SDR displays also mess up contrast. They lessen it severely compared to the source. We are just used to it.

When I got my VT30 plasma TV, at first I didn't like it compared to my CRT 1080i projection TV. It looked a bit flatter and the blacks weren't as deep. Then, eventually, I realized I was just used to the way my CRT HDTV looked, and while it beats the pants off of any LCD source I've ever seen, the plasma image was far superior once I gave it a chance.

Hey, I used to think vinyl was for fools. Now, it's pretty much all I listen to.

Keep an open mind! You might be pleasantly surprised. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

...Keep an open mind! You might be pleasantly surprised. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

The problem with leading too far ahead of the pack is being mistaken for the enemy.

Always best to keep an open mind.

[dvdmike]

There is a point where keeping an open mind turns into not liking something.
I had an open mind before I tried sushi, and now I know I don't like it.

[tronotized22]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Good points.

Personally, HDR is just like any other tool. Technically, it is a wonderful concept. More dynamic range on the display side means you are getting closer to what was captured on the original film or digital camera.

But, like anything, it can be abused. DNR, used very, very, very (sense a trend? ) sparingly, can help an image. As we know, movies look like garbage if overused. I suppose HDR could be abused, too, if it was utilized to "jack up" the contrast in an older movie to the point where it doesn't look at all what it's supposed to.

Keep in mind that SDR displays also mess up contrast. They lessen it severely compared to the source. We are just used to it.

When I got my VT30 plasma TV, at first I didn't like it compared to my CRT 1080i projection TV. It looked a bit flatter and the blacks weren't as deep. Then, eventually, I realized I was just used to the way my CRT HDTV looked, and while it beats the pants off of any LCD source I've ever seen, the plasma image was far superior once I gave it a chance.

Hey, I used to think vinyl was for fools. Now, it's pretty much all I listen to.

Keep an open mind! You might be pleasantly surprised. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

I totally agree. In general, digital is just a tool, just like the photo chemical process was a tool for cleaning film years ago. They can both be misused.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I don’t think you’ve seen enough samples in a proper viewing environment in order to make an informed judgment, but be that as it may, I do empathize with your concern in regards to HDR remastering of ‘old films’….especially given past misleading statements bordering on outright lies by some Hollywood studio executives with regards to other (non-HDR) remastering projects….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ve#post9553148

But mike, can we ? please be a bit more open minded, or at least HDR-friendly and not disparaging, regarding HDR grading and mastering for new films having honest direct filmmaker involvement, for they appear to like the new tool…https://vimeo.com/123370017?adbsc=so...adbpr=15851618

I just won't mention it again

[Geoff D]

Yeah, right.

[Penton-Man]

A practice (16-bit) ^ which about 1½ months after I wrote that above post, was then officially described for use with the Amazing Spiderman 2 as outlined in the late Feb. publication issue of the CineAlta industry magazine (see ‘assets’ pdf link - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post10480414 )

So, readers may ask in their own minds…Yo P-Man, but is there anything new since you contributed those post(s)? Well….ya darn tootin there is - more awareness ! For you see, the ADX SMPTE standard for calibration of scanners includes 16-bit encoding that allows full density scanning for HDR applications. So, for those attending NAB, come listen to the panel on Saturday and stop by booth C9132 at NAB 2015 in order to learn more….
https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-...iving-standard

Until then