Dressed to Kill (1980) - Page 24 - Blu-ray Forum

Page14 · 07-31-2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by diceman89

I actually really like the way the Criterion release looks compared to the other two, with the exception of the squishing and all.

I think the "squishing" would be the deal breaker for me. Drives me nuts.

Brian81 · 07-31-2015, 03:57 PM

Just looked at this site's review. The film grain is so much better resolved on this release vs the prior U.S. and U.K. Arrow releases. It's too bad the colors look bad and the image is terribly deformed.

klauswhereareyou · 07-31-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian81

Just looked at this site's review. The film grain is so much better resolved on this release vs the prior U.S. and U.K. Arrow releases. It's too bad the colors look bad and the image is terribly deformed.

Which is the big missed opportunity. Having the better grain pattern would've made me buy this even if the color grading was different from before. Funhouse mirror faces however

returnofthemack · 07-31-2015, 04:08 PM

Pretty brutal review and a massive screw up by criterion. They can't let this go, this is a high profile title and should be fixed. Seems like the last couple Criterions I've wanted have all come with some controversy (scanners, don't look now and dressed to kill). I'm hoping that mulholland drive doesn't have any issues

imsounoriginal · 07-31-2015, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by returnofthemack

Pretty brutal review and a massive screw up by criterion. They can't let this go, this is a high profile title and should be fixed. Seems like the last couple Criterions I've wanted have all come with some controversy (scanners, don't look now and dressed to kill). I'm hoping that mulholland drive doesn't have any issues

What was the issue with Don't Look Now? I didn't notice anything.

returnofthemack · 07-31-2015, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

What was the issue with Don't Look Now? I didn't notice anything.

I didn't have any problems with don't look now or scanners but a lot of complaints about the PQ for both releases. Stretching however is somthing that I do notice and find very distracting.

Brian81 · 07-31-2015, 04:15 PM

stretching is worse than pan and scan IMO!

Story: In the lunchroom at a prior workplace, the 'average Joes' would change the settings to 16:9 for 4:3 SD channels, so the image would stretch to fill the screen. It drove me bonkers, and I would switch it back to 4:3, bars and all. A couple days later, TV is back to stretched. Eventually, I just put the 4:3 content at 'Zoom' which resulted in the top and bottom of the image being chopped off, but at least everything wasn't stretched. This actually worked out. The 'Joes' didn't bother since the image filled the screen. Lesser of two evils.

kuro_sawa · 07-31-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by returnofthemack

I didn't have any problems with don't look now or scanners but a lot of complaints about the PQ for both releases. Stretching however is somthing that I do notice and find very distracting.

There's nothing wrong with the Don't Look Now disc, and it's the best video release of the film to date. Miles ahead of the previous blu.

klauswhereareyou · 07-31-2015, 04:18 PM

1980 Dressed to Kill opens in theaters amid protests of misogyny and violence against women.

2015 Dressed to Kill gets a special edition Criterion Collection blu-ray release amid protests of a distorted image and derped transfer.

Catastrophe · 07-31-2015, 04:23 PM

Cancelled my pre-order. I'm usually pretty forgiving (consciously or unconsciously) when it comes to transfer problems but this is obvious even to my (fairly) untrained eyes.

Dammit.

returnofthemack · 07-31-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kuro_sawa

There's nothing wrong with the Don't Look Now disc, and it's the best video release of the film to date. Miles ahead of the previous blu.

I agree but that doesn't change the fact that there were complaints about it.

imsounoriginal · 07-31-2015, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by returnofthemack

I didn't have any problems with don't look now or scanners but a lot of complaints about the PQ for both releases. Stretching however is somthing that I do notice and find very distracting.

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Originally Posted by kuro_sawa

There's nothing wrong with the Don't Look Now disc, and it's the best video release of the film to date. Miles ahead of the previous blu.

Ah, got it. I thought it looked great but I had never seen it before the Criterion disc, so I have no frame of reference for if anything was wrong with it. Thanks for clarifying.

cakefactory · 07-31-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by returnofthemack

I agree but that doesn't change the fact that there were complaints about it.

I don't remember complaints. What were they?

JohnCarpenterLives · 07-31-2015, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dsman71

Now Im nervous about what they will do with The Brood and Mulholland Drive

Lynch is probably doing all of the QC checks himself lol! I wouldn't worry about Mulholland

JohnCarpenterLives · 07-31-2015, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RiFiFi1955

What you do is break it without her knowing you intentionally did it and say hey hunny since we need a new player we might as well go region free.

Just unplug HDMI cord. It'll be enough. Say "input input source," she'll give you this:

JohnCarpenterLives · 07-31-2015, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky87

I'm assuming that the Arrow release is preferred over the MGM release because of the extras right?

The transfers look the same judging from the screencaps.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Todd Tomorrow · 07-31-2015, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by returnofthemack

I agree but that doesn't change the fact that there were complaints about it.

Pointless comment. If you look around the Internet you'll find a complaint about anything.

Criterion makes a rare misstep and people make it sound like nothing they do is of value. Get a grip, people ! Most of the time their product is fantastic and a lot of care goes into these releases. At least in this case there are decent alternatives, so no need to make this sound like the end of the world. I was quite happy with the Arrow release anyway and I'm glad I don't have to upgrade the Blu for the third time.

BlueRagtop · 07-31-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kuro_sawa

There's nothing wrong with the Don't Look Now disc, and it's the best video release of the film to date. Miles ahead of the previous blu.

I'd disagree with you on that point.

The Optimum UK blu was supervised & approved by director Nicholas Roeg and has a commentary by him. Also, the colors more accurately reflect my memories of seeing the film multiple times in the theater.

Don't Look Now is one of my favorite films and I would've double-dipped for the Criterion if I thought it was warranted.

Back on topic: I'm happy to stick with the Arrow DTK disc. Even if the warped images get fixed, the color looks far too greenish and muted to me.

Spence1000 · 07-31-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by returnofthemack

Pretty brutal review and a massive screw up by criterion. They can't let this go, this is a high profile title and should be fixed. Seems like the last couple Criterions I've wanted have all come with some controversy (scanners, don't look now and dressed to kill). I'm hoping that mulholland drive doesn't have any issues

Yes, Scanners was another example, with a similarly washed out image. It looked bloodless frankly. I could not understand what happened to make that so obviously flawed.

Brad1963 · 07-31-2015, 05:07 PM

Now that a second review has surfaced that confirms the stretching, I will agree it is not a good transfer. I'll stick with my thoughts that I like having more information on the sides. If it did not distort the shot and looked normal I would stick with my opinion that it looks better. Even with the change with the color timing.

Thankfully this is not high on my list to purchase, Day for Night and Two Days One Night are my top choices for Criterion's August slate. From the reviews I have seen, they look amazing.

07-31-2015, 04:15 PM	#467
Brian81 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:4	stretching is worse than pan and scan IMO! Story: In the lunchroom at a prior workplace, the 'average Joes' would change the settings to 16:9 for 4:3 SD channels, so the image would stretch to fill the screen. It drove me bonkers, and I would switch it back to 4:3, bars and all. A couple days later, TV is back to stretched. Eventually, I just put the 4:3 content at 'Zoom' which resulted in the top and bottom of the image being chopped off, but at least everything wasn't stretched. This actually worked out. The 'Joes' didn't bother since the image filled the screen. Lesser of two evils. Last edited by Brian81; 07-31-2015 at 04:22 PM.

07-31-2015, 03:57 PM	#462
Brian81 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:4	Just looked at this site's review. The film grain is so much better resolved on this release vs the prior U.S. and U.K. Arrow releases. It's too bad the colors look bad and the image is terribly deformed.

07-31-2015, 04:08 PM	#464
returnofthemack Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Ohio 4K collection:124 Blu-ray collection:885 DVD collection:353 Trading Score:176	Pretty brutal review and a massive screw up by criterion. They can't let this go, this is a high profile title and should be fixed. Seems like the last couple Criterions I've wanted have all come with some controversy (scanners, don't look now and dressed to kill). I'm hoping that mulholland drive doesn't have any issues

07-31-2015, 04:18 PM	#469
klauswhereareyou Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2012 4K collection:233 Blu-ray collection:2200 Digital collection:25 Prime collection:1	1980 Dressed to Kill opens in theaters amid protests of misogyny and violence against women. 2015 Dressed to Kill gets a special edition Criterion Collection blu-ray release amid protests of a distorted image and derped transfer.

07-31-2015, 04:23 PM	#470
Catastrophe Special Member Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Vancouver, BC, Canada 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:793	Cancelled my pre-order. I'm usually pretty forgiving (consciously or unconsciously) when it comes to transfer problems but this is obvious even to my (fairly) untrained eyes. Dammit.

07-31-2015, 05:07 PM	#480
Brad1963 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:338 Blu-ray collection:1629 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Now that a second review has surfaced that confirms the stretching, I will agree it is not a good transfer. I'll stick with my thoughts that I like having more information on the sides. If it did not distort the shot and looked normal I would stick with my opinion that it looks better. Even with the change with the color timing. Thankfully this is not high on my list to purchase, Day for Night and Two Days One Night are my top choices for Criterion's August slate. From the reviews I have seen, they look amazing.

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