Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo68

By the way, for you twentysomthings...wait until your kids tell you that this movie is "too dated" and "boring" twenty years from now! You'll be disappointed the way I'm disappointed when I say Mad Mad 2 (The Road Warrior) is a kick ass action film and one just gets a glazed look.

You know, just because some younger fans like FR more than RW, doesn't automatically mean they're against, or unable to appreciate, older films.

One of my top favorite films (rotating in my top 3 over the various years), since I was 15 years old, has been Amadeus - a film from the '80s.

Other films that I've loved since I was a teen, that have been in my top ten, range from The Bridge on the River Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia to The Godfather to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I'm only just recently out of the "twentysomethings" (31), and I can fully say that I have loved all manner of films throughout my youth.

And, yes, I happen to love Fury Road, while I merely admire The Road Warrior.

Deal.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

You know, just because some younger fans like FR more than RW, doesn't automatically mean they're against older films.

One of my top favorite films (rotating in my top 3 over the various years), since I was 15 years old, has been Amadeus - a film from the '80s.

Other films that I've loved since I was a teen, that have been in my top ten, range from The Bridge on the River Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia to The Godfather to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I'm only just recently out of the "twentysomethings" (31), and I can fully say that I have loved all manner of films throughout my youth.

And, yes, I happen to love Fury Road, while I merely admire The Road Warrior.

Deal.

That's the great thing about movies.

We can all watch the same movie and have different reactions to it.

...no harm, no foul.

[Yojimbo68]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

You know, just because some younger fans like FR more than RW, doesn't automatically mean they're against, or unable to appreciate, older films.

One of my top favorite films (rotating in my top 3 over the various years), since I was 15 years old, has been Amadeus - a film from the '80s.

Other films that I've loved since I was a teen, that have been in my top ten, range from The Bridge on the River Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia to The Godfather to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I'm only just recently out of the "twentysomethings" (31), and I can fully say that I have loved all manner of films throughout my youth.

And, yes, I happen to love Fury Road, while I merely admire The Road Warrior.

Deal.

Fair enough but Fury Road still has the "new car smell". You might have a different opinion a few years from now when you can put the movie in perspective. There are a few things in Fury Road that might date it. (Like some of the hyper cutting in the opening.) Only time will tell.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo68

Fair enough but Fury Road still has the "new car smell". You might have a different opinion a few years from now when you can put the movie in perspective. There are a few things in Fury Road that might date it. (Like some of the hyper cutting in the opening.) Only time will tell.

So what? Some of my favorite movies are dated.

Besides, should I wait to proclaim my love for any movie that isn't at least two decades old? Not a chance.

Edit: Also, "new car smell" hasn't done it for me in years. Fury Road has a fascinating world, great acting and utilizes a unique way of telling its story. There are plenty of films that "look amazing", are bright & shiny, etc. And barely any of them do a thing for me.

[Yojimbo68]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

So what? Some of my favorite movies are dated.

Besides, should I wait to proclaim my love for any movie that isn't at least two decades old? Not a chance.

Oh man, I should have patted you on the head like Ray and just let it go.

[captainjoe]

I don't see how the type of editing found in the opening of fury road could be outdated in a few years. Fast, quick cuts have been around for decades. It flowed, I was never lost and it established a style that worked for the story it was telling; Max waking up and needing to escape as quick as possible without knowing the landscape and also dealing with his own inner madness.
The film held on shots longer when it was necessary for the story. This is far from crap mtv fast cuts for the sake of fast cuts like what you see in Taken 2. The movie is operatic and some of the tightest action directing I've seen in a long time. It was refreshing to care about characters in this type of movie again too

[schlock]

Originally Posted by captainjoe

I don't see how the type of editing found in the opening of fury road could be outdated in a few years. Fast, quick cuts have been around for decades. It flowed, I was never lost and it established a style that worked for the story it was telling; Max waking up and needing to escape as quick as possible without knowing the landscape and also dealing with his own inner madness.
The film held on shots longer when it was necessary for the story. This is far from crap mtv fast cuts for the sake of fast cuts like what you see in Taken 2. The movie is operatic and some of the tightest action directing I've seen in a long time. It was refreshing to care about characters in this type of movie again too

I love that we still blame fast-edits as "MTV"-style when MTV hasn't shown fast-edit music-videos for over two decades. And I think old MTV-style editing would look rather quaint and old-fashioned today compared to how insanely rapid-fire cinema has taken it in the years since. It ain't all MTV's fault!

[Mr.F]

Just because this doesn't Suffer from "Christopher Nolan exposition vomit" syndrome, doesn't mean it is a mindless action film. Miller reveals all the necessary information without stopping the film to spell out things for the audience, and often through visuals. And they do spell out the message of the film clearly: 'We are not things,' 'our babies will not be warlords.' Furiosa is taking the women to a place where she knows they will be safe from a life like hers, to keep their children safe, particularly if they are girls, who for all we know would be killed the moment they are born. It's not the most groundbreaking message, but it's an important one, even today. And even Max gets some character development as at first we see he has become a damaged lone haunted by events that we have never seen, and he is given a reason to keep going.

And to be honest, this one is deeper than the other films in the series. In the first one we see that the world is falling apart and that the gangs rule which results in Max seeming revenge for something I won't spoil.

The second one, which is one of the all time great movies, has even less to say. They do develop Max's character more with his relationship with the feral kid, and they touch on how humans are better off sticking together through rough times.

As for Thunderdome, you could say it's about a political coup, and they give some hints about why the world is a wasteland, but it really is the true mindless entry in the series.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by Mr.F

Just because this doesn't Suffer from "Christopher Nolan exposition vomit" syndrome, doesn't mean it is a mindless action film. Miller reveals all the necessary information without stopping the film to spell out things for the audience, and often through visuals. And they do spell out the message of the film clearly: 'We are not things,' 'our babies will not be warlords.' Furiosa is taking the women to a place where she knows they will be safe from a life like hers, to keep their children safe, particularly if they are girls, who for all we know would be killed the moment they are born. It's not the most groundbreaking message, but it's an important one, even today. And even Max gets some character development as at first we see he has become a damaged lone haunted by events that we have never seen, and he is given a reason to keep going.

And to be honest, this one is deeper than the other films in the series. In the first one we see that the world is falling apart and that the gangs rule which results in Max seeming revenge for something I won't spoil.

The second one, which is one of the all time great movies, has even less to say. They do develop Max's character more with his relationship with the feral kid, and they touch on how humans are better off sticking together through rough times.

As for Thunderdome, you could say it's about a political coup, and they give some hints about why the world is a wasteland, but it really is the true mindless entry in the series.

"And to be honest, this one is deeper than the other films in the series. The second one, which is one of the all time great movies, has even less to say. They do develop Max's character more with his relationship with the feral kid, and they touch on how humans are better off sticking together through rough times.

As for Thunderdome, you could say it's about a political coup, and they give some hints about why the world is a wasteland, but it really is the true mindless entry in the series. "

I couldn't possibly disagree with you more...especially with the line highlighted in bold.

But it's late and I'm on my way to film geek dreamland.

...perhaps tomorrow I'll take some time to explain my reasons.

[ambient_indie]

Mindless Action...just wait until you see Jurassic World!

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by ambient_indie

Mindless Action...just wait until you see Jurassic World!

I really wish I hadn't.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by schlock

I love that we still blame fast-edits as "MTV"-style when MTV hasn't shown fast-edit music-videos for over two decades. And I think old MTV-style editing would look rather quaint and old-fashioned today compared to how insanely rapid-fire cinema has taken it in the years since. It ain't all MTV's fault!

I still have no idea what "MTV style editing" means since I've never watched MTV in my entire life.

I've heard it applied to the editing in Moulin Rouge!, though after 14 years I still find the film as visually and editorially stunning as ever and not dated in the least.

[Pieter V]

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[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo68

Well, a lot of reviews have claimed the movie as the ultimate all time masterpiece of cinema. Ray is making good points about some of the films short comings. I've seen Charlize Theron in other movies and some of her performances have blown me away. She was amazing in Monster and I loved Young Adult even though both characters are despicable in their own way. She did a fine job as Furiosa but I don't think the part was as meaty as those other roles I mentioned. Looking at the behind the scenes stuff, it does look like it was her toughest role physically.

By the way, for you twentysomthings...wait until your kids tell you that this movie is "too dated" and "boring" twenty years from now! You'll be disappointed the way I'm disappointed when I say Mad Mad 2 (The Road Warrior) is a kick ass action film and one just gets a glazed look.

I don't think anyone here is arguing this will win an Academy award. It's a good action flick that's entertaining, exactly what a movie like this should be. The word masterpiece can mean a lot of things to different people. This movie is a masterpiece in some ways, but it's lack of so called intellectually substance or tangible plot line doesn't make it any less good. And for the record, I'm not a fan boy. I don't even own this yet.

[PrestigeWorldwide]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo68

Well, a lot of reviews have claimed the movie as the ultimate all time masterpiece of cinema.....

I'm guessing part of that is due to most modern action films being incredibly dumb mindless crap like the Transformer sequels. So when we actually get a GOOD action movie like Fury Road or John Wick, people tend to be overly enthusiastic.

[StingingVelvet]

I might put John Wick above Fury Road. John Wick was so f'ing good.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I might put John Wick above Fury Road. John Wick was so f'ing good.

As good as John Wick was I still wouldn't put it above Mad Max: Fury Road.

[BladeRunner2007]

With all this talk about the black & white version of Fury Road, I decided to watch Road Warrior in black & white. Amazing experience.

[The Great Owl]

Last night, I watched my 2D Blu-ray of Mad Max: Fury Road as an official "christening" of my new LG 49" 4K UHD television (I sit six feet away from the screen).

Mind = blown.

I loved this movie in the theater, but the visuals really jumped out at me all the more this time, mainly because I was concentrating on the cinematographic techniques and how the film changes frame rates from time to time.

I cannot add anything that others have not said dozens of times about this film. I'm not a fan of the computer-generated ghost scenes with Max's loved ones, but the film is pretty much flawless otherwise.

There's one pivotal scene that I thought was too overtly gimmicky in terms of 3D effects, but it looked quite good on my television setup with the Blu-ray. (All of you who have seen the movie know exactly which scene I'm talking about.)

[colinrgeorge]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Will all this talk about the black & white version of Fury Road, I decided to watch Road Warrior in black & white. Amazing experience.

I rewatched John Ford's Stagecoach recently and its influence on Miller is obvious... it's no surprise he'd want to do Mad Max in black and white. Thanks for the pics!