Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by PrestigeWorldwide

I'm guessing part of that is due to most modern action films being incredibly dumb mindless crap like the Transformer sequels. So when we actually get a GOOD action movie like Fury Road or John Wick, people tend to be overly enthusiastic.

I also think that people are generally pissed off about always getting force-fed PG-13 for genre films and are giving this film a lot of love just for being R.

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

As good as John Wick was I still wouldn't put it above Mad Max: Fury Road.

I get why Mad Max lives in a world where there is apparently no law enforcement whatsoever.

I can't say the same for John Wick.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by PrestigeWorldwide

I'm guessing part of that is due to most modern action films being incredibly dumb mindless crap like the Transformer sequels. So when we actually get a GOOD action movie like Fury Road or John Wick, people tend to be overly enthusiastic.

Originally Posted by Arawn

I also think that people are generally pissed off about always getting force-fed PG-13 for genre films and are giving this film a lot of love just for being R.

I cannot stress enough how ridiculously patronizing posts like these are.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Will all this talk about the black & white version of Fury Road, I decided to watch Road Warrior in black & white. Amazing experience.

How can I watch The Road Warrior in black and white?

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

How can I watch The Road Warrior in black and white?

I was just about to ask that?
Do we simply turn "saturation" down to "0"?

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

I was just about to ask that?
Do we simply turn "saturation" down to "0"?

That's the magic trick

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

I was just about to ask that?
Do we simply turn "saturation" down to "0"?

I don't even know if my TV has a saturation option.

If it does, I can't find it.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

I don't even know if my TV has a saturation option.

If it does, I can't find it.

I think "color" would be the same.
More color = More saturation.
Less color = less saturation.
But I'm not home to check -

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

I don't even know if my TV has a saturation option.

If it does, I can't find it.

Saturation = Color

I'm sure you have it somewhere.

[WhySoBlu?]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

What are the great intellectual/philosophical/thematic elements that I missed?

The issue of

[Show spoiler]water scarcity

was brought up at the very beginning and then disappeared for the rest of the movie.

I don't remember any great conversations or scenes with profound dialogue that delved into the issues behind the devolution of civilization or the political remnants of a post-apocalyptic society.

I liked the film and plan to watch it again very soon.

But all I saw the first time was a lot of adrenaline-fueled action sequences.

...and yeah they were fun.

And in response to your edit, there was a lot of CGI in most of the major scenes. Not as bad as a Star Wars prequel, but a long ways away from the gritty naturalism of the original trilogy.

There's nothing mindless about the action in the film. Every bit of action, every set-piece, is there to service the story. The thing is, the story is not spoonfed to you - you have to pay attention to the little things: reactions, changes in facial expressions, whispered dialog coming from off-camera, etc.

Between the fanatical religious cult - complete with disciples brainwashed into wanting to die in service of their prophet/savior (Joe) in order to be reborn in their version of a heaven (Valhalla) - and the whole post-apocalypse "he who controls the water/gas/bullets controls the people" aspect, I can't see how anyone could describe it as just another "mindless action movie." And that's not even touching on the issues of gender roles or the whole "elderly patriarch needs a strong, healthy heir to pass everything down to" bit.

To each their own, but I would definitely give it a second watch. And maybe take a look at some of the docs - there's a ton of amazing stuntwork in this film. A lot of it had to be comped into the frame, but a ton of it was really shot.

Granted, I'm not the most objective person when it comes to this movie, because I freaking love it, so there's that...

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

Saturation = Color

I'm sure you have it somewhere.

Are you telling me that I can watch any film in my collection in black and white simply by turn the color down to zero?

...I can watch Chinatown in black and white?

...Blade Runner in black and white?

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[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Are you telling me that I can watch any film in my collection in black and white simply by turn the color down to zero?

...I can watch Chinatown in black and white?

...Blade Runner in black and white?

That's right, dude

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by WhySoBlu?

There's nothing mindless about the action in the film. Every bit of action, every set-piece, is there to service the story. The thing is, the story is not spoonfed to you - you have to pay attention to the little things: reactions, changes in facial expressions, whispered dialog coming from off-camera, etc.

Between the fanatical religious cult - complete with disciples brainwashed into wanting to die in service of their profit/savior (Joe) in order to be reborn in their version of a heaven (Valhalla) - and the whole post-apocalypse "he who controls the water/gas/bullets controls the people" aspect, I can't see how anyone could describe it as just another "mindless action movie." And that's not even touching on the issues of gender roles or the whole "elderly patriarch needs a strong, healthy heir to pass everything down to" bit.

To each their own, but I would definitely give it a second watch. And maybe take a look at some of the docs - there's a ton of amazing stuntwork in this film. A lot of it had to be comped into the frame, but a ton of it was really shot.

Granted, I'm not the most objective person when it comes to this movie, because I freaking love it, so there's that...

You make some interesting points.

[WhySoBlu?]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Are you telling me that I can watch any film in my collection in black and white simply by turn the color down to zero?

...I can watch Chinatown in black and white?

...Blade Runner in black and white?

Of course, but it's not "real" black and white. In other words, it's not what you would get if the film was actually shot in b&w, nor is it what you would get if you actually went into a suite and timed the film properly to be b&w (like the Mist or the b&w version of Fury Road that will probably be released in a year or so.)

It is what it is - a novelty. It can still give you some cool images, depending on the original footage, of course.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by WhySoBlu?

Of course, but it's not "real" black and white. In other words, it's not what you would get if the film was actually shot in b&w, nor is it what you would get if you actually went into a suite and timed the film properly to be b&w (like the Mist or the b&w version of Fury Road that will probably be released in a year or so.)

It is what it is - a novelty. It can still give you some cool images, depending on the original footage, of course.

Absolutely correct. It works great with these films:

The Crow
Mad Max 2
Star Wars
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Chinatown
Blade Runner
Batman
Batman Returns
Public Enemies
The Lords of Salem
The Woman in Black

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

That's right, dude

[lolwut]

Originally Posted by Arawn

I also think that people are generally pissed off about always getting force-fed PG-13 for genre films and are giving this film a lot of love just for being R.

No, it's because the film is awesome. The film is a soft R anyway.

[WhySoBlu?]

Originally Posted by Mr.F

Just because this doesn't Suffer from "Christopher Nolan exposition vomit" syndrome, doesn't mean it is a mindless action film. Miller reveals all the necessary information without stopping the film to spell out things for the audience, and often through visuals. And they do spell out the message of the film clearly: 'We are not things,' 'our babies will not be warlords.' Furiosa is taking the women to a place where she knows they will be safe from a life like hers, to keep their children safe, particularly if they are girls, who for all we know would be killed the moment they are born. It's not the most groundbreaking message, but it's an important one, even today. And even Max gets some character development as at first we see he has become a damaged lone haunted by events that we have never seen, and he is given a reason to keep going.

I'm going to spoiler tag my whole response for those wandering in who haven't seen the film:

[Show spoiler]I think one of the more interesting things about the film is that Furiosa's primary motivation isn't altruism or typical action-movie heroics - it's revenge. She's helping the women, but more importantly, she's hurting Joe, who hurt her many years ago. We don't know everything that was done to her, but we know she was taken from her home (along with her mother) when she was young and her mother died within three days of that happening.

One of the most powerful lines in the film often gets overlooked, but the simple "Remember me?" she growls at Joe right before killing him says so much. I've since read an interview in EW where Theron basically confirms that Furiosa's main concern was taking something precious away from Joe in order to hurt him.

Man, I love this movie.

[WhySoBlu?]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Absolutely correct. It works great with these films:

The Crow
Mad Max 2
Star Wars
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Chinatown
Blade Runner
Batman
Batman Returns
Public Enemies
The Lords of Salem
The Woman in Black

I'll have to try that on some of those titles sometime...

[solaris72]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Absolutely correct. It works great with these films:

The Crow
Mad Max 2
Star Wars
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Chinatown
Blade Runner
Batman
Batman Returns
Public Enemies
The Lords of Salem
The Woman in Black

I've heard Raiders of the Lost Ark works great this way.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by WhySoBlu?

nor is it what you would get if you actually went into a suite and timed the film properly to be b&w (like the Mist or the b&w version of Fury Road that will probably be released in a year or so.)

Do we know for sure that the B&W version of Fury Road is going to be "properly timed" and that it won't just have the color taken out?

Nothing I've heard or read says anything on that issue.

P.S. Those desaturated shots of The Road Warrior actually look pretty cool. To be honest, I find that much more visually appealing, and fitting, than the actual look of the film.