UltraHD Blurays and players will start coming by Christmas 2015. Still buying blurays

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by 42041

I wish they'd just stop it with the whole 4K nomenclature entirely QHD is not 4k just like 1080p is not 2K.

That's kind of an odd comparison. 1080p is not the name of a format. BD is. And it was perfectly understood, and branded, as 1080p.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

People were confused with upscaling DVD players when they came out too.

Especially with the marketing that you could actually watch your DVDs as "HD" or "near HD".

Then HD DVD and Blu-ray were coming out and some people were asking, "I thought I was already watching my DVDs as HD."

Very, very true. I had arguments along those lines with people who'd bought HD upscalers and were upset as to why they wouldn't play HD DVDs. The transition to HD was a total cluster**** and the tech industry seemed determined to repeat the exact same mistakes with 4K. They never ****ing learn.

[omahajon]

Might be a year or two or more before I get into 4K. I'm happy it's coming soon. It's just I'll wait until the prices come down and when I get the itch to upgrade.

[master gandhi]

I plan to start buying the combo packs early on, but I'm not sure about the player. There's a lot more information we need to learn before this all comes together. So far, Samsung says they're still finalizing the specifications of their first player. So they really don't have much to tell us yet. 'Tis the waiting game.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by master gandhi

I plan to start buying the combo packs early on, but I'm not sure about the player. There's a lot more information we need to learn before this all comes together. So far, Samsung says they're still finalizing the specifications of their first player. So they really don't have much to tell us yet. 'Tis the waiting game.

Yeah first players of any new format are always at a high price and are often missing features that later become standard. I plan on waiting at least a year before getting a player

But since its looking like most of the first titles will be combo packs I will also join you in buying them day one on any new releases. Saves me the trouble of ever having to buy a movie twice again

[Pecker]

I think the whole UHD idea will be different to Blu-ray.

Looking back the whole push for Blu-ray - although no one actually said it - was to ultimately replace DVD.

All of your DVDs were going to come out on Blu-ray, and even Stevie Wonder would see the difference.

But now? I suspect it may be a little less of a hard sell, less of a push.

Have lots of DVDs/Blu-rays? Fine. Don't replace them all. Just buy your new releases in UHD. After all, your 'old' films won't benefit too much anyway (I'm not saying that's true or not, just that this'll be the perception).

Go into your local TV store - how many flat panels are SD? Can you find even one? HD by default.

And so it'll go with discs.

Evolution rather than revolution.

Maybe.

Steve W

[HeavyHitter]

I think that is an interesting point, Steve.

By and large, catalog titles on Blu-ray have not been a success and just not enough people decided to replace all of their large DVD catalog collections.

I think the studios learned that and are now taking a different approach or more evolutionary as you say.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

That's quite honestly ridiculous, considering most new films are still finished at 2K. It's the older films that would actually benefit the most.

And if the studios wanted this to be an "evolution" of the Blu-ray format, they'd have to stop releasing the regular BD editions and just sell the UHD packages. But they won't, and therefore it will be seen as a "new format", not an evolution.

[Blu MacReady]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Yeah first players of any new format are always at a high price and are often missing features that later become standard. I plan on waiting at least a year before getting a player

But since its looking like most of the first titles will be combo packs I will also join you in buying them day one on any new releases. Saves me the trouble of ever having to buy a movie twice again

Not only saves the twice buying, but also titles going oop or oos when you do get the correct player. Don't want to have to pay even more via ebay etc

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And yes, UHD was decided upon as being a name which isn't resolution specific, but if the Fox cover for UHD Kingsman is correct then they've started using the 4K branding anyway, and for a movie which was finished at 2K. Fox are continuing Sony's good work.

I noticed that, they don't even say UHD BD just UHD + BD + Digital Copy. I thought the discs were going to be called UHD BDs? but as you said good old Fox for screwing up their promo artwork and for sticking 4K in the mix.

[Dex Robinson]

This is all going to be pretty straight forward for me.

Just as a matter of progressing technology, I expect to one day own a UHD Blu-ray player and a 4k TV.

But buying into the UHD BD format is entirely a matter of available content and nothing else. I know people are already arguing about the color of the cases and I'm sure they'll want everything to come with a slipcover.

It's as simple as this: as soon as two dozen, classic and deep catalogue titles are announced, I'm going to really sit-up and take notice. I have zero interest in the announced Fox titles...and that's ok because everybody has different taste. I buy catalogue titles almost exclusively. Kino, Olive and Shout/Scream account for about 75% of my purchases in the last year (I have over 850 BDs). I'd like to know what WB, Paramount, Universal and various smaller labels have in store.

If I look at the available UHD BD titles one day and I see: THE WIZARD OF OZ, OKLAHOMA!, GILDA, HIGH SCHOOL CONFIDENTIAL, INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS, PAL JOEY and such , then I'll say, "OK, you definitely have my attention UHD BD".

But until I see a title that I'm at least partially intersted in, I'm just going to sit back and not concern myself with the issue.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I think that is an interesting point, Steve.

By and large, catalog titles on Blu-ray have not been a success and just not enough people decided to replace all of their large DVD catalog collections.

I think the studios learned that and are now taking a different approach or more evolutionary as you say.

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

That's quite honestly ridiculous, considering most new films are still finished at 2K. It's the older films that would actually benefit the most.

The problem with the early catalogue releases is that they didn't 'pop' like people were told HD was going to, they didn't look bright and shiny with Technicolor hues like all the demo videos in the shop looked like. So people complained. The studios listened and starting tarting everything up with noise reduction and sharpening to get rid of that nasty grain stuff and bring more superficial 'pop' to the image, only now the home video cognoscenti were up in arms. So people complained. The studios listened and started going back to source to create brand new transfers which pleased pretty much everyone, only by then the damage was done in terms of catalogue sales and the format war certainly didn't help either. I don't think the impact of that snafu can be underestimated, and now UHD Blu-ray has its own competition with the multitude of on-demand 4K options.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

I know people are already arguing about the color of the cases.

I hope they stick to black. I didn't usually like the blue cases for blu-Ray unless it matched the colors on the cover

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I hope they stick to black. I didn't usually like the blue cases for blu-Ray unless it matched the colors on the cover

The amount of time I spend looking at my disc cases is equal to the amount of time it takes me open the case and get the disc out. I don't care if the cases are pink with pretty dancing ponies on them.

So everybody concerned about the look of the cases is free to argue that point amongst themselves.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

I don't care if the cases are pink with pretty dancing ponies on them.

I don't think anyone believes that.

[chip75]

All the spines should be the same like console games and each case should be colour coded for genre.

[master gandhi]

The covers should be LED screens with built-in WiFi, so the studios can change the image whenever they feel like it. Heh

[Pieter V]

500 euros for a disc player.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

500 euros for a disc player.

We're not sure yet. It's just been stated that it was expected to be "under $500" and that consumers would be pleasantly surprised by the price. Whatever that means.

[returnofthemack]

Once UHD player reach under $200 I'll upgrade and get a 4k TV as well. I'm sure I'm not as informed as many people here about 4k but it seems like there is not a standard yet for what 4K is going to be. I'm probablly wrong about that but it's the impression I get. Last thing I would want is to spend a bunch of money and find out I didn't buy the right equipment. The idea of watching the latest movies on UHD and on a 4K TV is exciting to me. That being said I'm not an early adopter and would prefer to have all the kinks worked out before I drop the cash to upgrade.