Does the Large Hadron Collider worry you ?

[Forrestandjen07]

Originally Posted by quexos

Fair enough. But this information is elsewhere and the issues about some scientists being worried are real. But of course the truth is that nobody really knows for sure that something can go wrong since this huge experiment is in its scale, unprecedented and it's all about theories vs theories. It's just that if something went wrong, it would be the end of it all. And that's the point of those against it, that the chances are too big to take even if they are very small

http://www.lhcfacts.org

Its amazing we have spent 4.4 billion on this thing to possibly kill us all

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Forrestandjen07

Its amazing we have spent 4.4 billion on this thing to possibly kill us all

Yeah, at least destroying mankind should be made in a cheap way but we have luxury tastes LOL, hehe sorry trying to take things lightly

Originally Posted by jkwest

WTH is a boffin?!

A Scientist

[Forrestandjen07]

Originally Posted by quexos

Yeah, at least destroying mankind should be made in a cheap way but we have luxury tastes LOL, hehe sorry trying to take things lightly



A Scientist

I just wonder why i have never seen anything on this on tv or whatever


Well the Flip of the switch of the end of the world be tellivised ?

[AliceT]

So i wonder what happened to the OP who thought this was going to kill us all? See they flipped the switch and nothing happened.

[Forrestandjen07]

Originally Posted by AliceT

So i wonder what happened to the OP who thought this was going to kill us all? See they flipped the switch and nothing happened.

they havent yet

It is supposed to happen on like the 9th or 10th

[Forrestandjen07]

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/200..._collider.html

[Blu Kreme]

Yeah, NOTHING can go wrong with all that.

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Forrestandjen07

I just wonder why i have never seen anything on this on tv or whatever
Well the Flip of the switch of the end of the world be tellivised ?

Well because this issue is seriously underestimated by the mainstream community. Perhaps they are right and there is no danger I don't know for sure.
Anyways We should be okay for the time being, I read that worst would come to happen, those microscopic black holes would take a few years to grow big enough to actually swallow the planet. But once they are created they are unstoppable. I don't know if they will detect them right away or if it will take some weeks. I have to admit that even if the mainstream community does not take this seriously, they could at least inform the public to a greater extent of all the theoretical implications, just for information sake.

[Forrestandjen07]

Originally Posted by quexos

Well because this issue is seriously underestimated by the mainstream community. Perhaps they are right and there is no danger I don't know for sure.
Anyways We should be okay for the time being, I read that worst would come to happen, those microscopic black holes would take a few years to grow big enough to actually swallow the planet. But once they are created they are unstoppable. I don't know if they will detect them right away or if it will take some weeks. I have to admit that even if the mainstream community does not take this seriously, they could at least inform the public to a greater extent of all the theoretical implications, just for information sake.

I mean, i just don't see how these scientists can be making any theory's at all on this, This has never been done before like this.

For all we know When the two beams collide, they could cause A new life form to come abut, The planet to just blow up, Or time to speed up

Who the hell knows

and when did we decide the big bang theory to be fact?

we well see at the end of the year when the Two beams collide

[jkwest]

HOLY HELL!!


This cannot be a good thing...

[Forrestandjen07]

thats the largest one of those things ive ever seen

[jkwest]

apparantly...its a magnet....

[Forrestandjen07]

Originally Posted by jkwest

apparantly...its a magnet....

weird, looks like a screw or bolt of some kind

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Forrestandjen07

weird, looks like a screw or bolt of some kind

Looks to me like a giant sprocket or cogwheel, maybe they were secretely building a watch ? LOL

But seriously I think it's part of one of the magnets. that LHC is a large piece of machinery. Did you guys know that the ring where the beams will be cycled has been cooled down to temperatures colder than outer space ? Something about less than 1 Kelvin. I was thinking how much power that thing must need to keep a city sized 27 KM ring to such cool temperatures. If we die cause of that thing at least it's some nice looking piece of scientific machinery and not some stupid nuclear bomb.

[Forrestandjen07]

Originally Posted by quexos

Looks to me like a giant sprocket or cogwheel, maybe they were secretely building a watch ? LOL

But seriously I think it's part of one of the magnets. that LHC is a large piece of machinery. Did you guys know that the ring where the beams will be cycled has been cooled down to temperatures colder than outer space ? Something about less than 1 Kelvin. I was thinking how much power that thing must need to keep a city sized 27 KM ring to such cool temperatures. If we die cause of that thing at least it's some nice looking piece of scientific machinery and not some stupid nuclear bomb.

yea i belive it was -425 or so

[quexos]

Check out this nice 4 minutes documentary on the LHC and the hopes science have with it. It's quite interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67q_2V6xOxE

Also this BBC documentary about the giant machine is great too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTw5K...eature=related

[jaymzbo]

Originally Posted by quexos

Check out this nice 4 minutes documentary on the LHC and the hopes science have with it. It's quite interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67q_2V6xOxE

Also this BBC documentary about the giant machine is great too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTw5K...eature=related

I watched those as well as some of the related videos. They were interesting. The implications for potential discovery are mind boggling. I hope it turns out well.

[Simplayer]

Originally Posted by Forrestandjen07

and when did we decide the big bang theory to be fact?

Because it pretty much is. A scientific theory is not a hypothesis.

[Forrestandjen07]

Originally Posted by Simplayer

Because it pretty much is. A scientific theory is not a hypothesis.

pretty much is just the same as Close but no cigar

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by quexos

Fair enough. But this information is elsewhere and the issues about some scientists being worried are real. But of course the truth is that nobody really knows for sure that something can go wrong since this huge experiment is in its scale, unprecedented and it's all about theories vs theories. It's just that if something went wrong, it would be the end of it all. And that's the point of those against it, that the chances are too big to take even if they are very small

http://www.lhcfacts.org

It seems to me the entire argument comes down to whether black holes evaporate or not:

1) Black holes cannot evaporate because their horizon is effectively infinitely far away in spacetime according to a new theorem in the Schwarzschild metric.

And, that apparently the only place in the universe that sufficiently slow mBH can be created is in Europe:

4) CERN [4,5] counters that if the hoped-for mini black holes are stable as claimed [1], equal stable particles must arise naturally by ultra-fast cosmic-ray protons colliding with planetbound protons. This is correct. However, there remains a fundamental difference: only the man-made ones are “symmetrically generated“ and hence dangerous. For they alone are slow enough with respect to the earth that one of them (at less than 11 km/sec) can take residence – in contrast to the almost-luminal speeds of their natural cousins.

A cosmic-ray induced mBH would never collide with anything in Earth?

There were scientists that said that Trinity would ignite and burn off the Earth's atmosphere.

Gary