4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

....one more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_Q...youtu.be&t=34s

the following pic doesn’t do the imagery even near justice but, for the record….
on the left is a Dolby Pulsar (4000 nits)….on the right, a Dolby PRM-4220 in Rec. 709 mode




and……on the far right, is the cmu working or,what some call, da brains to making it all happen....at least until the trim pass, done by da human

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Opips3

HFR

re-quote from another thread, bolding a phrase for direction

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

....it’s a no-brainer that HFR will show a pleasurable, improved quality of experience to *factual content* (sports, documentaries, on location news, etc.) where the motion of the imagery is pretty much anything greater than talking heads, e.g. https://vimeo.com/74564139 (note: cameras have improved since that BBC interview from that past IBC)

as, far as movies (feature films) go, i too am a traditionalist, so i side with those who prefer (at least thru years and years of visual conditioning) the 24fps *dreamy* look because it instantly transports me into the escapism of the movie world….which hfr, at least for me, hinders and for which I think brought about many of the negative reactions by audiences to the 3D 48fps version of the last two Hobbit films.

although….

there are a tiny handful of folks in the industry who remain passionate about hfr for movies and are pursuing advanced methods to make the imagery more friendly to traditional cinephiles, one of which methods involves shooting at HFR (120fps in this case) and incrementally adjusting shutter angles on the HFR footage between 72º and 360º, and to perform realtime frame blending, like so (download this video demo of variable motion blurring (~ 218 MB) to see dee drummer in action. https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/c...er/drummer.mov )

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_Q...youtu.be&t=34s

the following pic doesn’t do the imagery even near justice but, for the record….
on the left is a Dolby Pulsar (4000 nits)….on the right, a Dolby PRM-4220 in Rec. 709 mode




and……on the far right, is the cmu working or,what some call, da brains to making it all happen....at least until the trim pass, done by da human

You mean to say Dolby vision looks "good" when Dolby shows it to people?

[Geoff D]

Oh, I love a Big Tasty.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oh, I love a Big Tasty.

I used to before I gave up sugar and take away

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

You mean to say Dolby vision looks "good" when Dolby shows it to people?

mike, miiiiiiike, you’ve got it HDR-rong, again , the opposite is true –
scene specific HDR ….

Carl's Jr. Charlotte McKinney All-Natural "Too Hot For TV" Commercial (Extended Cut) - YouTube

measly, truncated SDR ….

[Penton-Man]

and with regards to live television and those who know how to enjoy their burgers -

the 4300….http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/show-4k...00_landingpage already is HDR capable, so, releasing for professional users in a matter of days, is new software for it to support S–Log3 ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post11141568 ) which is Sony’s color grading space suggestion for HDR production.

[Opips3]

1080p to 4k upscaling on suhd tv? My collection bd movies are 1080p

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Opips3

1080p to 4k upscaling on suhd tv? My collection bd movies are 1080p

The scalers in most 4k TV's are some of the best in the world

[Penton-Man]

as those early adopting 4K SEIKI tv owners weep

[Penton-Man]

after I made this post ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post11433057 ) in the ‘4K Blu-ray confirmed’ thread, i'm now feeling kind of sorry for the gamer dudes, ergo, for the sake of the gamers, and of course, burger lovers - http://www.997thefox.com/articles/wh...nneys-14061880

[Richard Paul]

High-Def Digest posted about Dolby Cinema and one of the demos he watched was for a wide gamut version of Inside Out:

"What's notable about this particular sequence is that, while the theatrical standard for color space is P3, this scene is the first in the history of digital projection to use the wider Rec.2020 (aka BT.2020) color gamut. It was, outside of 70mm or 70mm IMAX, possibly the best looking 2D projected imagery I've ever seen."

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

as those early adopting 4K SEIKI tv owners weep

Weep? No HDR upgrade path would be a thing of joy

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

High-Def Digest posted about Dolby Cinema and one of the demos he watched was for a wide gamut version of Inside Out:

"What's notable about this particular sequence is that, while the theatrical standard for color space is P3, this scene is the first in the history of digital projection to use the wider Rec.2020 (aka BT.2020) color gamut. It was, outside of 70mm or 70mm IMAX, possibly the best looking 2D projected imagery I've ever seen."

Did they only use doby vision equipment to master and render inside out?

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

follow-up from the 5/14/2015 tidbit -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...a#post10803567

e.g. HDR10 uses static metadata while dolby vision uses dynamic metadata….http://hdguru.com/dolby-vision-tries...t-bar-for-hdr/

That HDR10 video doesn't use dynamic metadata does make me wonder how well it will convert to SDR and that sounds like it could cause problems.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

on the other hand, the hybrid log gamma approach demoed at ibc2015
for live TV production distribution needed no metadata and actually looked purty good

At the last HEVC meeting Movielabs took a stab at HLG and the BBC provided an explanation for how HLG can be converted to ACES.

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Did they only use doby vision equipment to master and render inside out?

I haven't heard any details about how they mastered it but last month Pixar showed the wide color gamut version of Inside Out at the IBC 2015 conference.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Weep? No HDR upgrade path would be a thing of joy

Don't know why you're against progress. If the industry was like you we'd be still stuck with VHS on B&W TVs and 1 speaker.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Don't know why you're against progress. If the industry was like you we'd be still stuck with VHS on B&W TVs and 1 speaker.

Progress does not mean changing the last to make it more "modern"
And yes I hate progress obviously, these inflammatory posts are looking a little silly
I want more and better, I want 4k I however hate how HDR looks, its a preference. get it?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

High-Def Digest posted about Dolby Cinema and one of the demos he watched was for a wide gamut version of Inside Out:

"What's notable about this particular sequence is that, while the theatrical standard for color space is P3, this scene is the first in the history of digital projection to use the wider Rec.2020 (aka BT.2020) color gamut. It was, outside of 70mm or 70mm IMAX, possibly the best looking 2D projected imagery I've ever seen."

i know . good to see insider tibits



getting out to the audio/video press corps.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Weep? No HDR upgrade path would be a thing of joy

actually mike, i was referring to the TV’s noticeably poor onboard upscaler….nothing at all to do with the topic of HDR. i was elaborating upon the word ‘most’ in your post.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

That HDR10 video doesn't use dynamic metadata does make me wonder how well it will convert to SDR and that sounds like it could cause problems.

correcto-mundo, a definite hurdle, dynamic metadata is preferable a la DG Project ST 2094