Movies with cop-out endings

[Riff Magnum]

not really. I mean we know she's either dreaming or dead from the start of the movie. We see her go unconscious, so it's not really a cop out if they're not hiding it from you like it's some sort of big surprise.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

not really. I mean we know she's either dreaming or dead from the start of the movie. We see her go unconscious, so it's not really a cop out if they're not hiding it from you like it's some sort of big surprise.

Very true.

[arrow61095]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

not really. I mean we know she's either dreaming or dead from the start of the movie. We see her go unconscious, so it's not really a cop out if they're not hiding it from you like it's some sort of big surprise.

Did you know that Oz is meant to be a real place in the book?

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by arrow61095

Did you know that Oz is meant to be a real place in the book?

Did not know that. I've always said i'd get around to reading the actual book someday, but never have. How did they manage to make it a "real" place? Did the bump on her head allow her to time travel or seek alternate dimensions?

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

Did not know that. I've always said i'd get around to reading the actual book someday, but never have. How did they manage to make it a "real" place? Did the bump on her head allow her to time travel or seek alternate dimensions?

The movie deviates from the book dramtically. Almost not even the same...kinda.

[arrow61095]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

Did not know that. I've always said i'd get around to reading the actual book someday, but never have. How did they manage to make it a "real" place? Did the bump on her head allow her to time travel or seek alternate dimensions?

[Show spoiler]It's fantasy. I believe that it's seen as some far off hidden strange land, and not explained in much more detail. The tornado picks up her house and deposits her far away. Kind of how on those Ripley Believe it or nots, they have had cows picked up by tornados are dropped unharmed several states away. It has been a while though, so I could be not remembering entirely.

[surfdude12]

i'm not exactly sure what "cop out ending" means...perhaps the OP can clarify? a bad (inconsistent with story-line) ending? an ending that encourages discussion?

[DC_Street]

http://www.yourdictionary.com/cop-out

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

i'm not exactly sure what "cop out ending" means...perhaps the OP can clarify? a bad (inconsistent with story-line) ending? an ending that encourages discussion?

In my view, it is an ending that provides a facile conclusion, lets characters off the hook and sidesteps all conflict the film has posed throughout, with no regard to plot, character or theme consistence, often making whole chunks of the movie irrelevant.

For example: the 1982 theatrical cut of Blade Runner. The film spends two hours immersing you in an oppressive, overcrowded, despondent world. The leading guy falls in love with a replicant (which, apart from being outlaws, have 4-year life spans).

Then, in the very last scene

[Show spoiler]They ride happily into the sunset and we're told Rachael had no termination date.

If you have the Blu-ray, listen to what Frank Darabont has to say about that. It is quite funny.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by Grubert

In my view, it is an ending that provides a facile conclusion, lets characters off the hook and sidesteps all conflict the film has posed throughout, with no regard to plot, character or theme consistence, often making whole chunks of the movie irrelevant.

that's actually a more clear definition that i thought was capable. however, i find that when i see a "suprise ending", its usually because my "interpretation" of the plot/themes has been one-dimensional, and the ending is based on another dimension i hadn't considered, thus allowing my mind to wonder refreshing no?

[fragile-reality]

Originally Posted by Grubert

In my view, it is an ending that provides a facile conclusion, lets characters off the hook and sidesteps all conflict the film has posed throughout, with no regard to plot, character or theme consistence, often making whole chunks of the movie irrelevant.

That's a perfect description of the theatrical ending to the Butterfly Effect.