Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Packerfan75]

Originally Posted by Terminated

George Lucas Says He Sold ‘Star Wars’ to ‘White Slavers’.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/st...rs-1201669959/

And yet he had no problem making a deal with them or accepting their money. Those white slavers pay very well. I'd like the white slavers know that I'm accepting offers.

[Stoney Jackson]

Originally Posted by Terminated

George Lucas Says He Sold ‘Star Wars’ to ‘White Slavers’.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/st...rs-1201669959/

The last paragraph says everything you need to know about it

[AaronJ]

Lucas is such an asshat.

[richieb1971]

I watched it just now.

Some silly coincidences in the first 20 mins. Dark side of the force was very VERY weak. Some light saber training would have been nice.



Overall 6/10.

Better than most of the Marvel movies I sat through in the past 3 years though.

[mrpink134]

Originally Posted by Terminated

George Lucas Says He Sold ‘Star Wars’ to ‘White Slavers’.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/st...rs-1201669959/

He's just mad that this movie was better than the prequels.

[Megalith]

Looks like George just told everyone off. He's right. Most Star Wars fans are nothing but posers, anyway. It's sad when the only place that has managed to tell it how it is is 4chan.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Megalith

Looks like George just told everyone off. He's right. Most Star Wars fans are nothing but posers, anyway. It's sad when the only place that has managed to tell it how it is is 4chan.

Nothing but posers? The hell does that mean?

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Megalith

Looks like George just told everyone off. He's right. Most Star Wars fans are nothing but posers, anyway. It's sad when the only place that has managed to tell it how it is is 4chan.

Yes, what does it mean?

[JamesBenjamin]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Yes, what does it mean?

Its sarcasm.

[StingingVelvet]

Interesting and blunt comments from someone who doesn't have to play the PR game anymore.

Say what you want about the prequels (and I agree they are very flawed), at least they took risks and were the movies an artist wanted to make. The Force Awakens definitely feels more like a corporation making something to put butts in seats, which I can see an auteur like Lucas having a problem with. Especially when he sees people praise said corporation for doing so, which assaults his perspective on the film industry.

It's too bad he didn't really have the talent to make something original, crowd-pleasing AND great at the same time with the prequels.

[DisneyBlu]

Saw this for the fifth time, and I really, really want a

[Show spoiler]Poe Dameron

spinoff film.

(Spoiler tags so as to not reveal the characters' fate).

[Show spoiler]Oscar Isaac is insanely talented, and he oozes charisma and charm in this role. Isaac and his character could easily carry his own film. If not a spinoff, I hope Poe gets a lot more screentime in episode 8, especially with Finn. Boyega and Isaac had great chemistry - their scene with the stolen TIE fighter makes me smile every time. I love their "space bros" relationship and would like to see Poe even more involved in the next film.

[Jasonic]

I'll take a quality made corporate cash grab that has heart any day over something supposedly more original yet shit in quality and fails to have any heart.


p.s. Originality is overrated, and Avatar is ****ing awesome!

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Jasonic

I'll take a quality made corporate cash grab that has heart any day over something supposedly more original yet shit in quality and fails to have any heart.

Yeah, I said that in another thread and people seemed to disagree, but I stand by it. In the end, all good intentions aside, what matters is which film is more enjoyable to watch. If it's the corporate cash-in, so be it.

[Rodney-2187]

Movies are like food. I love a good steak, but I don't want it every meal. Sometimes you just want a sandwich.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Interesting and blunt comments from someone who doesn't have to play the PR game anymore.

Say what you want about the prequels (and I agree they are very flawed), at least they took risks and were the movies an artist wanted to make. The Force Awakens definitely feels more like a corporation making something to put butts in seats, which I can see an auteur like Lucas having a problem with. Especially when he sees people praise said corporation for doing so, which assaults his perspective on the film industry.

It's too bad he didn't really have the talent to make something original, crowd-pleasing AND great at the same time with the prequels.

Even though I like TFA I agree with this.

[JasonHensley]

Where has this sympathy for Lucas come from all of a sudden where people are praising the PT simply because he got to make the movies he supposedly wanted to make without studio interference? The PT had nowhere near as many hurdles as ANH or other, better, movies that filmmakers struggle to make.

If anything the PT is safer than TFA and relies on a much more childlike tone to play it even more safe by targeting kids. The PT had the benefit of its main cast being established names in the universe and didn't create any new meaningful characters or droids. Anakin, Palpatine, Yoda, ObiWan, Chewbacca, C3PO, R2D2, and even Bobba Fett where already established and many were shoehorned into the PT for fan service or an over abundance of comic relief. The PT also failed to introduce a new main villain that had any relevance whatsoever and relied on pretty sights and special effects to wow audiences instead of telling a compelling story. Throughout the documentaries of the PT, Lucas himself looks completely uninterested and didn't even have enough ideas to flesh out 3 movies. The few interesting ideas that would have actually helped the PT were only touched on and completely forgotten just so he could lighten the mood to appeal to a wider market in his mind.

TFA introduces a new main cast of heroes and villains, introduces a new droid that is popular, and isn't able to totally rely on characters from the OT. The OT cast had minor roles, mainly, along with them not afraid to do certain things with established characters. Why people complain about fan service in TFA and act as though the PT didn't have it in spades is beyond me.

[ChipmunksDad]

Originally Posted by AaronJ

Lucas is such an asshat.

He's just pissed because his Prequal disaster can't hold TFAs jock.

[A Sith Lord?]

Originally Posted by JasonHensley

Where has this sympathy for Lucas come from all of a sudden where people are praising the PT simply because he got to make the movies he supposedly wanted to make without studio interference? The PT had nowhere near as many hurdles as ANH or other, better, movies that filmmakers struggle to make.

If anything the PT is safer than TFA and relies on a much more childlike tone to play it even more safe by targeting kids. The PT had the benefit of its main cast being established names in the universe and didn't create any new meaningful characters or droids. Anakin, Palpatine, Yoda, ObiWan, Chewbacca, C3PO, R2D2, and even Bobba Fett where already established and many were shoehorned into the PT for fan service or an over abundance of comic relief. The PT also failed to introduce a new main villain that had any relevance whatsoever and relied on pretty sights and special effects to wow audiences instead of telling a compelling story. Throughout the documentaries of the PT, Lucas himself looks completely uninterested and didn't even have enough ideas to flesh out 3 movies. The few interesting ideas that would have actually helped the PT were only touched on and completely forgotten just so he could lighten the mood to appeal to a wider market in his mind.

TFA introduces a new main cast of heroes and villains, introduces a new droid that is popular, and isn't able to totally rely on characters from the OT. The OT cast had minor roles, mainly, along with them not afraid to do certain things with established characters. Why people complain about fan service in TFA and act as though the PT didn't have it in spades is beyond me.

LOLOLOL.

Lucas has always said when he made Star Wars they were for his young boys. The fact he wanted to make the prequels more kid friendly has really no bearing on those movies. That was his personal opinion.

And for the record, there are a lot of people like me who like the prequels but dont' feel the need to let people know. Prequel defenders come out when prequel hating original lovers continue to trash on Lucas and the prequels.

People who like prequels generally also like the OT.

I can't say the same, and the extremes from the other side are ridiculous towards the PT.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

Saw this for the fifth time, and I really, really want a

[Show spoiler]Poe Dameron

spinoff film.

(Spoiler tags so as to not reveal the characters' fate).

[Show spoiler]Oscar Isaac is insanely talented, and he oozes charisma and charm in this role. Isaac and his character could easily carry his own film. If not a spinoff, I hope Poe gets a lot more screentime in episode 8, especially with Finn. Boyega and Isaac had great chemistry - their scene with the stolen TIE fighter makes me smile every time. I love their "space bros" relationship and would like to see Poe even more involved in the next film.

Count me in for a Poe film. This is a big, diverse universe and it deserves to be explored.

[Nightopian]

Ok watched it again and one thing is clear for me now, the originality factor. It was something I thought about after the first viewing. One thing Lucas did with all the movies, especially the prequels is he came up with a lot of original ideas for worlds, spaceships, characters and events within the movie. Is it just me or did this movie really have none of this? It really didn't have that same feel of originality or moments of when you went, "wow, that looked awesome" or "where do they come up with this stuff". It really just felt like a run of the mill sci-fi film...I still enjoy it, don't get me wrong...I'm just not 100% sold on it...

On a positive note, a cute girl ended up sitting next to me this time and I got talking with her during the movie - turned out it was her second viewing as well...long story short, I ended up getting her number after the movie. lol I was under some intense pressure however because she was accompanied there by the dark side (her father). Luckily the force was strong with me that night and I pulled it off...