Twilight Time Discussion Thread - Page 1003 - Blu-ray Forum

wormraper · 12-31-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

So because a retailer decides to offer sales and lower prices independent of the company, you blame the companies themselves? Such logic.

And LOL at price fixing... oh brother. You seem to forget that TT also has sales of their own. but it's always easier to argue if you only include the information that supports your accusations, I guess.

actually those price dips are NOT retailer only. Criterion actually sponsors them.

and sure, 3 sales in in like 4 or 5 years??? yeah, that's TOTALLY the same on a handful of titles for double what I can get them at Criterion. sorry, facts is facts. I can get more bang for my buck at Criterion than at TT.. that's simple facts

in the comparison of TT vs. Criterion... that's just the way it is. do I have TT titles ?? yes (but then again I actually haven't paid anything for them in the long run) ..do I have Criterions??? yes, and I paid a lot less per title for them. it's just what it is. Some international sellers may not get the same deals, but TT is a U.S. company and so is Criterion, so comparing apples to apples in their home town so to speak is more accurate.

xxnomad · 12-31-2015, 06:04 PM

Enough!!!

Someone just release hud already!

Criterion twilight time who cares just make it happen someone!!!

baheidstu · 12-31-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

actually those price dips are NOT retailer only. Criterion actually sponsors them.

and sure, 3 sales in in like 4 or 5 years??? yeah, that's TOTALLY the same on a handful of titles for double what I can get them at Criterion. sorry, facts is facts. I can get more bang for my buck at Criterion than at TT.. that's simple facts

in the comparison of TT vs. Criterion... that's just the way it is. do I have TT titles ?? yes (but then again I actually haven't paid anything for them in the long run) ..do I have Criterions??? yes, and I paid a lot less per title for them. it's just what it is. Some international sellers may not get the same deals, but TT is a U.S. company and so is Criterion, so comparing apples to apples in their home town so to speak is more accurate.

Yep, you're right. For those of you in the US, if you're a savvy shopper you can get Criterion titles for far less than a Twilight Time title. But you've been on this forum to know exactly why TT prices their items the way they do. With all of the unsold product they have and the fact they pay for everything up front, it would be a miracle if they even made any profit on their endeavour. I appreciate the fact that they release a lot of titles that would otherwise go unreleased and put together a good product, certainly far better than some of the slapdash efforts that Kino Lorber puts out on titles of a similar ilk.

Deep · 12-31-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xxnomad

Enough!!!

Someone just release hud already!

Criterion twilight time who cares just make it happen someone!!!

Totally agree ! One of my most wanted titles on Blu ... This and A Face in the Crowd would really make me very happy.

-D

StingingVelvet · 12-31-2015, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

So because a retailer decides to offer sales and lower prices independent of the company, you blame the companies themselves? Such logic.

All that matters is what I have to pay for things. Why does it matter what is written on some paper in someone's office? If I want a Twilight Time movie it costs me $34. If I want a Criterion it costs me $23 or so, and the Criterions are not limited and have more features usually. This makes Criterions feel like much of a value.

In the end that is literally all that matters.

belcherman · 01-01-2016, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

All that matters is what I have to pay for things. Why does it matter what is written on some paper in someone's office? If I want a Twilight Time movie it costs me $34. If I want a Criterion it costs me $23 or so, and the Criterions are not limited and have more features usually. This makes Criterions feel like much of a value.

In the end that is literally all that matters.

Absolutely true. Unfortunately, TT releases more of the movies that I am most interested in, Hollywood movies from the 40s to 70s. I'm not crazy about their business model but I'm happy to have those movies available on blu. You pays your money and you makes your choices.

CraigThom · 01-01-2016, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RickDee

The only thing they are doing really is deceiving all these people into thinking that because of the limited run they are actually getting a collectors item but in reality once the next medium comes out they are worth zilch. Not trying to slam TT but I pretty much call it as I see it.

I can't speak for everyone, but, given the size of the releases, I can confidently say I speak for at least .03% for the releases I've bought, and the fact that they are limited releases has nothing to do with it.

If I want a movie, and it's on Twilight Time, and I decide it's worth the money, then I buy it. If I decide I'm OK with holding off to see if there's a cheaper release later, then I'll do that (but has any Twilight Time release been put out by someone else later?)

I don't buy movies because I think there will be resale value, or so I can show off my collection; I buy them to watch them.

That doesn't mean I don't have a dozen or two Blu-rays I haven't watched, but I will, eventually, and that's why I bought them.

dsman71 · 01-01-2016, 03:43 AM

Quite honestly many of the limited to 3000 titles TT offers do not sell out, and even a label like Criterion Im pretty sure many of their titles barely sell 3000 units as well. At least not that quickly as if it were limited. The point of the limited release is for people to buy them quick, and it makes good business sense in today's market. TT does do extras for their films, more than what they have done before, and they have booklets as well. When it comes to extras it really depends on the movie

jayembee · 01-01-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThom

I can't speak for everyone, but, given the size of the releases, I can confidently say I speak for at least .03% for the releases I've bought, and the fact that they are limited releases has nothing to do with it.

If I want a movie, and it's on Twilight Time, and I decide it's worth the money, then I buy it. If I decide I'm OK with holding off to see if there's a cheaper release later, then I'll do that (but has any Twilight Time release been put out by someone else later?)

I don't buy movies because I think there will be resale value, or so I can show off my collection; I buy them to watch them.

That doesn't mean I don't have a dozen or two Blu-rays I haven't watched, but I will, eventually, and that's why I bought them.

This. The only reason that the "limited edition" business is even a factor for me is whether I can manage to get a BD of a film I want. As others have said, other labels probably don't generally sell any better than Twilight Time, but if they manage to run out of their initial press run on a title, they may go back to press more. TT won't, unless they work out a new deal with the relevant studio for an encore edition.

bipbop13 · 01-01-2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThom

(but has any Twilight Time release been put out by someone else later?)

Christine for one.

dsman71 · 01-01-2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bipbop13

Christine for one.

Sony traded titles to TT in order to re-obtain the rights to release Christine

RalphoR · 01-01-2016, 07:30 PM

I wonder what they traded? I've been really impressed with the Sony transfers so far so I hope they're movies I really want.

dsman71 · 01-01-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphoR

I wonder what they traded? I've been really impressed with the Sony transfers so far so I hope they're movies I really want.

Who knows , maybe TT already announced them ?

rdodolak · 01-01-2016, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphoR

I wonder what they traded? I've been really impressed with the Sony transfers so far so I hope they're movies I really want.

I have my feeling about what might have been traded for Christine. Either way, I can't wait to see what TT has in store for us in 2016!

ArnieCunningham · 01-01-2016, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

I have my feeling about what might have been traded for Christine. Either way, I can't wait to see what TT has in store for us in 2016!

Maximum Overdrive be nice. Since it turns 30 this year.

dsman71 · 01-01-2016, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ArnieCunningham

Maximum Overdrive be nice. Since it turns 30 this year.

Yeah but its not with Sony.. I heard its with Lionsgate

ArnieCunningham · 01-02-2016, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dsman71

Yeah but its not with Sony.. I heard its with Lionsgate

So TT can only use sony?

rdodolak · 01-02-2016, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ArnieCunningham

So TT can only use sony?

They currently have agreements with Sony, Fox, and MGM.

BagheeraMcGee · 01-02-2016, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

I have my feeling about what might have been traded for Christine. Either way, I can't wait to see what TT has in store for us in 2016!

When that announcement of "Panic Room" happened, I figured that was one of the titles that was traded. Over the last year or so, there have been at least one or two titles a month that piqued my interest, so like you, I'm very eager to see what they have in store for the coming year.

jayembee · 01-02-2016, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ArnieCunningham

Maximum Overdrive be nice. Since it turns 30 this year.

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Originally Posted by dsman71

Yeah but its not with Sony.. I heard its with Lionsgate

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Originally Posted by ArnieCunningham

So TT can only use sony?

TT can only use films from studios/labels that they have licensing deals with. Lionsgate is not one of them.

12-31-2015, 06:04 PM	#20042
xxnomad Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2014 4K collection:520 Blu-ray collection:4095 DVD collection:21 Trading Score:164	Enough!!! Someone just release hud already! Criterion twilight time who cares just make it happen someone!!!

01-01-2016, 03:43 AM	#20048
dsman71 Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:569 Blu-ray collection:2844 DVD collection:665	Quite honestly many of the limited to 3000 titles TT offers do not sell out, and even a label like Criterion Im pretty sure many of their titles barely sell 3000 units as well. At least not that quickly as if it were limited. The point of the limited release is for people to buy them quick, and it makes good business sense in today's market. TT does do extras for their films, more than what they have done before, and they have booklets as well. When it comes to extras it really depends on the movie

01-01-2016, 07:30 PM	#20052
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	I wonder what they traded? I've been really impressed with the Sony transfers so far so I hope they're movies I really want.

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