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Old 02-07-2016, 07:39 PM   #1
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OLED is not ready yet, I finally ditched plasma this week for a 4k Sony LCD
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OLED is not ready yet, I finally ditched plasma this week for a 4k Sony LCD


Personally.................................

For my plan ....... I'll be holding on to my Plasma Panels until they die ...... . Hopefully Panasonic will have afforable OLED panels ready for me by then

The only LCD's to grace my home are computer monitors
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Personally.................................

For my plan ....... I'll be holding on to my Plasma Panels until they die ...... . Hopefully Panasonic will have afforable OLED panels ready for me by then

The only LCD's to grace my home are computer monitors
Well, I had planned to hold onto my plasmas until they die.

Then they did.

lmaooooo. What are the chances?

Anyway, I'm sure everyone here has already seen my sob stories re: my red-tinted Kuro and my infected 65ZT60. They were perfect. But I had the misfortune.

But, for what it's worth, I enjoy my 65JS8500 LED LCD. I will readily admit it isn't perfect, but no current display technology is. I watch more movies now than I ever did before, too.

If I hadn't just dropped 3Gs on the 8500 six months ago, I would look seriously into the G6 LG OLEDs.

blah blah blah, I tried projectors, blah blah, my room defeated them, blah, probably going to be living in this apt for another year or two blah so maybe later I'll blah a projector setup again blah because a 92" blah was awesomerblah than a 65" blah.
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Well, I had planned to hold onto my plasmas until they die.

Then they did.

lmaooooo. What are the chances?

Anyway, I'm sure everyone here has already seen my sob stories re: my red-tinted Kuro and my infected 65ZT60. They were perfect. But I had the misfortune.

But, for what it's worth, I enjoy my 65JS8500 LED LCD. I will readily admit it isn't perfect, but no current display technology is. I watch more movies now than I ever did before, too.

If I hadn't just dropped 3Gs on the 8500 six months ago, I would look seriously into the G6 LG OLEDs.

blah blah blah, I tried projectors, blah blah, my room defeated them, blah, probably going to be living in this apt for another year or two blah so maybe later I'll blah a projector setup again blah because a 92" blah was awesomerblah than a 65" blah.
So, my Kuro is still rockin' and doing bedroom duty. My main set is my 65" ZT60. I really want a 78" to 80" set in the main room, but don't want to give up my plasma for an LED. Do you think I'd be happy going big with an LED? I'm not so sure size will trump quality. The ZT60 is near perfect.
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So, my Kuro is still rockin' and doing bedroom duty. My main set is my 65" ZT60. I really want a 78" to 80" set in the main room, but don't want to give up my plasma for an LED. Do you think I'd be happy going big with an LED? I'm not so sure size will trump quality. The ZT60 is near perfect.
Size trumps quality (in my opinion and experience), however, my caveat would be I had a 92" screen versus the 65" - the level of immersion is amazing, at the sacrifice of black level. I found it totally acceptable at the outset, as did my friends/family members.

I would've lived with it perfectly fine, it's just that my viewing distance is restricted to 7' due to room layout, and it got a little overbearing after 6 months at that distance. But the straw that broke the camels back was the utter uselessness of the system in daytime hours. Because at nighttime I could achieve total blackout (save white walls) and the experience was like nothing before. But during the day I couldn't stop the sunlight from leaking in - I have a pair of 8'x20' windows in my main room.

I do not think going 75" from 65" - or even 80" from 65" would be a willing compromise for image quality, especially if you like the dark deep blacks in a minimally light-polluted environment. (Read, my 65JS8500 has great blacks for an LEDLCD but I now use bias lighting to trick myself into better blacks and contrast levels.)
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Size trumps quality (in my opinion and experience), however, my caveat would be I had a 92" screen versus the 65" - the level of immersion is amazing, at the sacrifice of black level. I found it totally acceptable at the outset, as did my friends/family members.

I would've lived with it perfectly fine, it's just that my viewing distance is restricted to 7' due to room layout, and it got a little overbearing after 6 months at that distance. But the straw that broke the camels back was the utter uselessness of the system in daytime hours. Because at nighttime I could achieve total blackout (save white walls) and the experience was like nothing before. But during the day I couldn't stop the sunlight from leaking in - I have a pair of 8'x20' windows in my main room.

I do not think going 75" from 65" - or even 80" from 65" would be a willing compromise for image quality, especially if you like the dark deep blacks in a minimally light-polluted environment. (Read, my 65JS8500 has great blacks for an LEDLCD but I now use bias lighting to trick myself into better blacks and contrast levels.)
I may just hold out another year or two and see what happens with OLED, as well as further advancements with LED.
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Old 02-08-2016, 10:53 PM   #7
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I may just hold out another year or two and see what happens with OLED, as well as further advancements with LED.
Holding out for an OLED is the best idea. I can't wait to see what is achieved with this technology once the motion and panel life is sorted. Exciting times ahead.
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Old 02-11-2016, 08:14 PM   #8
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But the straw that broke the camels back was the utter uselessness of the system in daytime hours.
This comment isn't directed at you as someone at your level is fully aware of stuff like this, but the above comment reminded me of one of Kevin Miller's responses to an off camera question during a break from the presentations about projectors at the 2014 HDTV shootout. He was mentioning how the biggest factor people don't consider when they transition to a projector is you now have your entire room's environment to consider. With a flat panel you are removing the vast majority of how the room plays with the signal as the panel is the source of the signal, but with projectors you've now got 10+' usually where the light is affected between the source and the screen.

Perhaps that isn't a light bulb moment for many people here, but I hadn't considered it up to that point and it was enlightening.
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This comment isn't directed at you as someone at your level is fully aware of stuff like this, but the above comment reminded me of one of Kevin Miller's responses to an off camera question during a break from the presentations about projectors at the 2014 HDTV shootout. He was mentioning how the biggest factor people don't consider when they transition to a projector is you now have your entire room's environment to consider. With a flat panel you are removing the vast majority of how the room plays with the signal as the panel is the source of the signal, but with projectors you've now got 10+' usually where the light is affected between the source and the screen.

Perhaps that isn't a light bulb moment for many people here, but I hadn't considered it up to that point and it was enlightening.
I thought I could get away with it. It didn't bother me the first few months. But in the day time it became a magazine cover more than anything else. I had to close all the windows and blinds to even make it quasi-useful, and those big ass windows are the reason I live here to begin with. So now I'm UHD!

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