Ghostbusters 4K UHD (1984)

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

If Harris did it himself I would look in its general direction

You're talking about the man who refused to reintegrate a scene (Robert Bolt's favorite scene that he has ever written!) that David Lean had requested because Sir Lean died before he had the chance to approve the final version of the scene. This despite Mr. Harris' confidence that said approval would have been happily given.

Somehow I doubt he would be willing party to an intentional alteration/re-purposing of the film's color timing.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

but Sony doesn't have a specific team ruffling through new and older movies thinking how can we change and alter the colors to take advantage of 4K technology and fix ("mess") it up.

According to recent reports, apparently they do.

Originally Posted by Dubstar

The same can be said of the mixing of sound to Atmos and not retaining the original mixes - are we at that point where in order to make everything look shiny and new, destroy what it looked and sounded like prior?

We've been at that point for a while now. There are plenty of discrete 5.1 and 7.1 remixes of older soundtracks on the market, on discs that don't include the original mixes.

[Jason One]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

I guess my confusion over all this is why does HDR have to implemented at all on UHD discs? or is it a requirement? Why isn't a standard 4K scan/transfer (something that Criterion does do currently) acceptable without the additional tweaking of 'HDR' ---- or am I missing something completely different in all of this?

It's not required -- HDR is optional in the UHD BD spec, so the studios could certainly release 4K SDR if they wanted.

However, so far it seems like Fox, Sony, and WB are going all-in with HDR. Maybe Criterion will be different.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

According to recent reports, apparently they do.



We've been at that point for a while now. There are plenty of discrete 5.1 and 7.1 remixes of older soundtracks on the market, on discs that don't include the original mixes.

oh I agree - the list is endless.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

You're talking about the man who refused to reintegrate a scene (Robert Bolt's favorite scene that he has ever written!) that David Lean had requested because Sir Lean died before he had the chance to approve the final version of the scene. This despite Mr. Harris' confidence that said approval would have been happily given.

Somehow I doubt he would be willing party to an intentional alteration/re-purposing of the film's color timing.

I would give it a few seconds of time to see how I feel knowing I have the SDR

[Ruined]

HDR Ghostbusters says one thing to me: Since Blu-ray is so close to theatrical quality, the theme of the UHD Blu-ray format is going to be "how can we make this 'pop' more to sell another copy," regardless of original film creators intentions.

I am not sure who they are trying to target with UHD Blu-ray. The average consumer who wants "pop" will prefer streaming. The cinephile wants something as close to original creators intentions as possible. UHD Blu-ray with HDR on everything caters to neither.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Ruined

HDR Ghostbusters says one thing to me: Since Blu-ray is so close to theatrical quality, the theme of the UHD Blu-ray format is going to be "how can we make this 'pop' more to sell another copy," regardless of original film creators intentions.

I am not sure who they are trying to target with UHD Blu-ray. The average consumer who wants "pop" will prefer streaming. The cinephile wants something as close to original creators intentions as possible. UHD Blu-ray with HDR on everything caters to neither.

Welcome to the home video industry.

[Opips3]

Shameful, I don't buy Ghostbusters Bluray for 8 years. Now time I'll buy UltraHD 4K Ghostbusters with HDR and Atmos! Oh yes of course include Bluray.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Ruined

HDR Ghostbusters says one thing to me: Since Blu-ray is so close to theatrical quality, the theme of the UHD Blu-ray format is going to be "how can we make this 'pop' more to sell another copy," regardless of original film creators intentions.

I am not sure who they are trying to target with UHD Blu-ray. The average consumer who wants "pop" will prefer streaming. The cinephile wants something as close to original creators intentions as possible. UHD Blu-ray with HDR on everything caters to neither.

The BD of ghostbusters is great, like seriously and the 4k is just as great.
But the colour could be slightly better compared to a release print.
Don't get me wrong I don't want a HDR mess but there is room to improve

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

You're talking about the man who refused to reintegrate a scene (Robert Bolt's favorite scene that he has ever written!) that David Lean had requested because Sir Lean died before he had the chance to approve the final version of the scene. This despite Mr. Harris' confidence that said approval would have been happily given.

Somehow I doubt he would be willing party to an intentional alteration/re-purposing of the film's color timing.

This doesn't happen to be the quicksand scene does it?

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

This doesn't happen to be the quicksand scene does it?

No, the balcony scene.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by Ruined

HDR Ghostbusters says one thing to me: Since Blu-ray is so close to theatrical quality, the theme of the UHD Blu-ray format is going to be "how can we make this 'pop' more to sell another copy," regardless of original film creators intentions.

I am not sure who they are trying to target with UHD Blu-ray. The average consumer who wants "pop" will prefer streaming. The cinephile wants something as close to original creators intentions as possible. UHD Blu-ray with HDR on everything caters to neither.

It's called law of diminishing returns....

Blu-ray is already way better than 35mm release prints (that were 3rd or 4th generation).

Now they need to go beyond what release prints could achieve to create business... It's very simple...

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

It's called law of diminishing returns....

Blu-ray is already way better than 35mm release prints (that were 3rd or 4th generation).

Now they need to go beyond what release prints could achieve to create business... It's very simple...

90's ones maybe

[Yautja_Warrior]

Funny how HDR was going to be the next big thing, and already it seems a lot of people are complaining about it.

Guess we will have to wait and see how it turns out before jumping to conclusions though, maybe it will look great, maybe they won't use HDR on all older titles but at least UHD disc's come bundled with the normal blu-ray too.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Yautja_Warrior

Funny how HDR was going to be the next big thing, and already it seems a lot of people are complaining about it.

Guess we will have to wait and see how it turns out before jumping to conclusions though, maybe it will look great, maybe they won't use HDR on all older titles but at least UHD disc's come bundled with the normal blu-ray too.

It's rare the next big thing catches on

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Yautja_Warrior

Funny how HDR was going to be the next big thing, and already it seems a lot of people are complaining about it.

Guess we will have to wait and see how it turns out before jumping to conclusions though, maybe it will look great, maybe they won't use HDR on all older titles but at least UHD disc's come bundled with the normal blu-ray too.

The only people complaining is the people who don't
Haven't gotten access yet and experienced it.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The only people complaining is the people who don't
Haven't gotten access yet and experienced it.

I have and I don't like it...

[Opips3]

Don't forget about Dolby Atmos only 2160p disc.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The only people complaining is the people who don't
Haven't gotten access yet and experienced it.

Incorrect.

[Yautja_Warrior]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The only people complaining is the people who don't
Haven't gotten access yet and experienced it.

I've seen some people who have got access to it, say they are not a fan.

I'm on the fence at the moment, as I have only watched a few short 4k HDR clips on a USB stick (Life of Pi and Exodus clips) on my Sony 8509C.

I personally thought it looked pretty good, and the picture detail is amazing, but I don't own the blu-ray's of these movies, so I can't compare colours, contrast ect, but I would want to compare the UHD disc, not a downloaded clip.