DILWALE (2015) Blu-Ray !!!!

[afgmusix]

does anybody know if the blu-ray has the "premika"song that didn't make it into the cinema cut ?

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Dragun

That's called "depth of field." Not everything will be in focus. It has nothing to do with the Blu-Ray authoring.

Yeah, lousy director's approved depth of field was burrry. lol.

[rajkapoor]

Originally Posted by Anurag1700

Good shots and seems like a good quality BD although of a horrible horrible film.

But most importantly, tell me what was original size of your Screens and how did u take them.

I used DVD Fab Media Player to play the disc and take these shots. I took some with VLC too (mkv file). VLC screenshot was about 500KB while Fab’s was around 800KB. Each uploaded shot was compressed to site’s limit of 97KB. I'm not sure how much difference a high res shot makes after it's compressed.

[pesta]

Originally Posted by afgmusix

does anybody know if the blu-ray has the "premika"song that didn't make it into the cinema cut ?

No

[pesta]

I saw this last weekend and felt the video quality was all right but certainly not
the best I've seen even on Bollywood blu-rays. I actually felt it could really be improved in few of the scenes. This is based on what was seen on my 120" FP screen.

[LifeNeedsMovies]

Well at least I have a new Bollywood movie Blu Ray to sample for Indian friends who wanna check out my home theatre. Colourful songs, great locations and get an action scene or two. Gerua looks fantastic

[Anurag1700]

Originally Posted by LifeNeedsMovies

Well at least I have a new Bollywood movie Blu Ray to sample for Indian friends who wanna check out my home theatre. Colourful songs, great locations and get an action scene or two. Gerua looks fantastic

Not referrig to your taste. But in general, as ironical as it may sound, people who specifically cared only for "Colourful songs, great locations and get an action scene or two and gerua looking fantastic" are the most responsible for whatever money this piece of crap made at the box office.

The situation is so bad, sometimes I wish there was a way to teach people what should be the expectation before watching a film, how to watch them with silence and respect and even on the most peripheral level, how to judge them as good or bad. I would happily put good money in any institution educating people on this.

[rs3771]

Originally Posted by Anurag1700

Not referrig to your taste. But in general, as ironical as it may sound, people who specifically cared only for "Colourful songs, great locations and get an action scene or two and gerua looking fantastic" are the most responsible for whatever money this piece of crap made at the box office.

The situation is so bad, sometimes I wish there was a way to teach people what should be the expectation before watching a film, how to watch them with silence and respect and even on the most peripheral level, how to judge them as good or bad. I would happily put good money in any institution educating people on this.

These were my exact thoughts as well when I watched about 90 mins of the movie last nite - what I was scratching my head about was how in the world did SRK think that this movie would smash all box office records (in relation to his disappointment with this movie's earnings) - in fact, it has earned more than it deserves clearly. Does he think that the mere iconic pairing of himself and Kajol and some catchy songs/music or some good cinematography in the songs is "enough" to make a good movie? He should know better than that. There've been enough number of movies with a great star cast and may be even good songs that didn't do well at the box office. If I compare Dilwale to Haider which I eventually got to watch this past weekend, it is day-and-night difference - with Haider, we're looking at some reeeaaaalllly well done cinema (in my opinion at least) - that to me is true story telling - cinema is all about great story telling - if that is not done well, nothing else matters, scenes in Bulgaria or Gerua won't cut it....Sure, I'll probably play the songs from Dilwale a few times in my home theater - but would have no desire to watch this nonsense again - I still need to complete the movie though.....LOL

[Hindustani]

Originally Posted by rs3771

These were my exact thoughts as well when I watched about 90 mins of the movie last nite - what I was scratching my head about was how in the world did SRK think that this movie would smash all box office records (in relation to his disappointment with this movie's earnings) - in fact, it has earned more than it deserves clearly. Does he think that the mere iconic pairing of himself and Kajol and some catchy songs/music or some good cinematography in the songs is "enough" to make a good movie? He should know better than that. There've been enough number of movies with a great star cast and may be even good songs that didn't do well at the box office. If I compare Dilwale to Haider which I eventually got to watch this past weekend, it is day-and-night difference - with Haider, we're looking at some reeeaaaalllly well done cinema (in my opinion at least) - that to me is true story telling - cinema is all about great story telling - if that is not done well, nothing else matters, scenes in Bulgaria or Gerua won't cut it....Sure, I'll probably play the songs from Dilwale a few times in my home theater - but would have no desire to watch this nonsense again - I still need to complete the movie though.....LOL

rs3371 and Anurag1700

I think we are in very interesting times in Bollywood.

SRK's DILWALE (2015) = Aamir's MELA (2000) = Salman's VEER (2010)aka. Turning point in filmography

All 3 films were absolutely panned by everyone at various points in time. MELA and VEER turned out to be turning point in Aamir's and Salman's career respectively.

MELA debacle resulted in Aamir becoming Bollywood superstar of 2010 decade starting with Oscar nominated LAGAAN (2001) home production ending with 3 IDIOTS (2010) and beyond with P.K (2014) as the Aamir journey continues...

VEER debacle directly resulted in salman's re-launching into "North India's Rajnikanth" avatar. South regional blockbusters remakes resulting in BO golden run starting with DABANGG (2010) and most probably ending the "masala" era with All-time Blockbuster in BAJRANGI BHAIJAAN (2015). But Salman's journey continues....

DILWALE debacle with serious criticism by masses and classes alike could also directly result in SRK's re-entry into "acting" superstar with FAN (2016) and RAEES (2016) and other interesting line-up with class directors forever shunning garbage masala trash cinema of Rohit Shetty, Farah Khan and even Karan Johar to certain extent.

We are living in interesting era. All 3 superstars are aging and on wrong side of 50 yrs. All 3 are identical age and entered the twilight era of cinema. Something Big B had to deal with in 1990s.

I have a feeling one of them will eventually quit the superstardom.

Whether it will be....

50-55 yrs old Salman (least talented, masses hero) or
50-55 yrs old SRK (Most talented & versitile, properly stage trained, but poor, selfish, businessman-like decision maker) or
50-55 yrs old Aamir (wise, hardworking but extremely picky once every 3 yrs release).

Only the time will tell...1 or even 2 of the superstars will not age well imo..

stay tuned....

[kaykaysud]

Originally Posted by Hindustani

rs3371 and Anurag1700

SRK's DILWALE (2015) = Aamir's MELA (2000) = Salman's VEER (2010)aka. Turning point in filmography .

Aside from Dilwale which could indeed be a turning point in SRK's career, Mela was more like Aamir's one-shot attempt at launching his brother into stardom and Veer was a Salman Khan vanity project to prove his worth as Salim Khan's progeny (he wrote the story).

Aamir in fact does have a few films which he can be proud of, made just before Mela and his other debacle, Mann - like Sarfarosh, Ghulam, 1947 Earth. Salman's remake spree started with Wanted (remake of Pokkiri) - a hit and made before Veer - and Dabagg was actually a surprise entry among the films which followed Veer, in that it was not a remake of any south Indian film (it's the other way around - the film got remade in Tamil & Telugu) and has in fact, got some substance amidst all the style.

[bhaskar1981]

Originally Posted by rs3771

If I compare Dilwale to Haider which I eventually got to watch this past weekend, it is day-and-night difference - with Haider, we're looking at some reeeaaaalllly well done cinema (in my opinion at least) - that to me is true story telling - cinema is all about great story telling

Whilst I agree with you largely about Haider, I think there is a market for "commercial" cinema, light hearted films where you can just forget your worries and enjoy yourself. The problem is that Dilwale was touted to be an entertainer, and it failed on that count - the only thought that went through my head was why did SRK and Kajol decide to do this?

[Anurag1700]

Originally Posted by bhaskar1981

why did SRK and Kajol decide to do this?

SRK did because he always said he likes to and always wanted to do action but to his misfortune, he became star because of all romantic roles that he himself never enjoyed and was never truly thankful for. So its quite obvious when anyone offers him a script that allows him to do action he puts in his own money and takes the role with his eyes shut (Ra.one, Main hoon na, Don, Dilwale, Chennai express).

Kajol did this because she said in an interview that her daughter always told she does boring roles and she should do something fun also. And the daughter was so happy when she accepted this role that kajol got tears of happiness.

Ya i know. Keep wondering how and what drives decision making in our cinema.

[Hindustani]

Originally Posted by kaykaysud

Aside from Dilwale which could indeed be a turning point in SRK's career, Mela was more like Aamir's one-shot attempt at launching his brother into stardom and Veer was a Salman Khan vanity project to prove his worth as Salim Khan's progeny (he wrote the story).

Aamir in fact does have a few films which he can be proud of, made just before Mela and his other debacle, Mann - like Sarfarosh, Ghulam, 1947 Earth. Salman's remake spree started with Wanted (remake of Pokkiri) - a hit and made before Veer - and Dabagg was actually a surprise entry among the films which followed Veer, in that it was not a remake of any south Indian film (it's the other way around - the film got remade in Tamil & Telugu) and has in fact, got some substance amidst all the style.

kaykaysud

You missed my point.

I have solely listed those movies in reflection to their superstardom.

What SRK has done in last 5 yrs has been business-man like. A corporate boss who runs Red Chillies and KKR. And only want to fill his corporate bank accounts with HNY, CE, Ra-1.

He also shamelessly used his superstardom to please his kids and make movies for them and they might like when they grow up.

Sharing space on posters and running time of movies both with 4 non-stars in HNY and varun dhawan like newbie in DILWALE is a huge mistake.

Superstardom is not courteous or benevolent space. It is a very selfish position. And any superstar should never ever take his fans for granted.

Aamir realised this in the whole 90s decade of struggle.

Salman realised this in 2000 decade of struggle.

SRK must realise this in this decade. His movies are least remembered, multi-starrer filled ones, and boring with no repeat value.

I cannot believe I am typing this. I will watch salman's WANTED, DABANGG and BB anytime before even thinking about CE, HNY, DILWALE, RA-1, DON-2, JTHJ. All 6 of them, poorly made.

[Anurag1700]

Originally Posted by Hindustani

CE, HNY, DILWALE, RA-1, DON-2, JTHJ. All 6 of them, poorly made.

Way offtopic i know but had to say it - JTHJ may be poorly made but it definitely does not belong in that group. It may be overlong, boring, even self indulgent but it certainly never ever felt like driven by lame decisions and mainstream compromises that plagued the other films.

[Hindustani]

Originally Posted by Anurag1700

Way offtopic i know but had to say it - JTHJ may be poorly made but it definitely does not belong in that group. It may be overlong, boring, even self indulgent but it certainly never ever felt like driven by lame decisions and mainstream compromises that plagued the other films.

Anurag1700 bro.

There is a serious issue thats plaguing SRK cinema from last few years!

Salman cinema has made handsome use of "UP Bhaiyya" accented cop in DABANGG to great use!. North Indian Bajrangi bhakt accent in BB to great use sending a universal brotherhood social message.

Aamir cinema has made handsome use of Rajasthani bhojpuri accented alien to great use in PK (Sanjay dutt was also querky accented). IIT intellegent student doing full masti put to great use.

SRK cinema made the worst use of "Hinglish" so far. Also, the west wannabe characters be it SRK's G.One caricature with all the piercing stuff when he first lands in India. HNY characters using english 'slangs' every other dialogue thinking it is 'cool.' Such is the Farah Khan's atrocious screenplay that teenager hacker constantly uses phrases like "Are you freaking nuts." "Are you kidding me." This shows when producer and director of HNY has 5 teen kids between them! two of them study in london. HNY is neither a multiplex cinema nor a single screen cinema but their own 5 children pleasing cinema. I wont be surprise if their own children hated it.

DON-2 screenplay again loaded with "English dialogues." absolutely needlessly. And the SRK DON-2 promos gave out completely opposite perceptions with "hindi" dialogues like "Don ke dushman don ke haathon marne ke liye hi paida hote hai!"

When Dabangg, PK, 3-Idiots, BB all ATBB showed using extensive english is hindi movies is never ever helpful and completely alienates Single Screen masses, SRK movies have deliberately gone that path. To make matters worse, it also lessen SRK's character as "one of the cast" in HNY and DILWALE.

Infact, it is the opposite.

When Indian-American tamil person talks rubbish hindi (Chatur "silencer" ramalingam played by Omi Vaidya), it becomes the most famous character, clearly outperforming & superceding Aamir's author backed role in 3 IDIOTS.

[LifeNeedsMovies]

Well this isn't a movie review thread so I'm expressing my satisfaction with the Blu Ray disc

Has a nice bronze shine slip cover with an embossed title
The inside cover art is different than slip cover
A great interactive menu
Ton of special features all in HD
Dolby Atmos
No water mark
And the colourful movie has been treated very well on 1080p

Thus as far as this Blu Ray product goes I'm very happy with it. Is it a great movie? No. But worth your money if you buy a lot of Bollywood Blu Rays

[bhaskar1981]

Originally Posted by Anurag1700

SRK did because he always said he likes to and always wanted to do action but to his misfortune, he became star because of all romantic roles that he himself never enjoyed and was never truly thankful for. So its quite obvious when anyone offers him a script that allows him to do action he puts in his own money and takes the role with his eyes shut (Ra.one, Main hoon na, Don, Dilwale, Chennai express).

Kajol did this because she said in an interview that her daughter always told she does boring roles and she should do something fun also. And the daughter was so happy when she accepted this role that kajol got tears of happiness.

Ya i know. Keep wondering how and what drives decision making in our cinema.

I don't actually remember a single decent action film that SRK has been in..........of the films you've mentioned. I actually really enjoyed Main Hoon Na, the rest I can pass on. The saddest thing about SRK is that he had the most variety and quality at the start of his career.

[Hindustani]

Originally Posted by bhaskar1981

I don't actually remember a single decent action film that SRK has been in..........of the films you've mentioned. I actually really enjoyed Main Hoon Na, the rest I can pass on. The saddest thing about SRK is that he had the most variety and quality at the start of his career.

I consider DON (2006) to be as good an actioner Bollywood can make or re-make. Besides this, KARAN ARJUN and KOYLA also are decent actioners!

Problem with indian audience is the prevailing notion of "action hero". Infact, Bollywood and South has poor "action" movies history compared to even Hong Kong, Korea let alone Hollywood.

mindless SFX, VFX and horrendrous slow motion is literally abused to sell garbage in the name of 'action.'

Even a 90s action king, Akshay (devgan, shetty to lesser extent) and today's actioner "tiger shroff" can barely use learned marshal arts to incorporate it into real choreographed action. They merely end up displaying their marshal arts technique. Then everything else breaks into horrible slow motion trash. (HINT: Just watch BAAGHI trailer).

Even Big B wasnt really accepted by audience as an 'action hero' as gave flop after flop between 1985 to 1990.

Meanwhile, Hollywood audience can perfectly appreciated extremely well choreographed action sequences of rough street faced Bruce Willis, Matt Damon to bulky action heros (stallone, Arnold) to SRK like romatic faces actioners like Keanu Reeves (Speed, Matrix) and Cruise (MI, collateral).

[Hindustani]

Originally Posted by rs3771

If I compare Dilwale to Haider which I eventually got to watch this past weekend, it is day-and-night difference - with Haider, we're looking at some reeeaaaalllly well done cinema (in my opinion at least) - that to me is true story telling - cinema is all about great story telling - if that is not done well, nothing else matters, scenes in Bulgaria or Gerua won't cut it....Sure, I'll probably play the songs from Dilwale a few times in my home theater - but would have no desire to watch this nonsense again - I still need to complete the movie though.....LOL

SRK of the 1990s decade would've worked in HAIDER in a heart beat just to collaborate with Vishal Bhardwaj. After all, he worked in Kamal Hassan's HEY RAM!, one of the most riskiest movies for a mega superstar with massive fan following.

But again, this was SRK of the 1990s that did Mani Ratnam's Shekhar Kapoor production "Love story of the terrorist" called DIL SE, a very close to HAIDER in terms of setting and plot.

2007 to present SRK is a selfish, greedy, businessman who will do pi$$ poor cinema just fill his red chillies bank account and he can plaster "produced by gauri khan" all over the screen.

A reason why every good movie since CHAK DE INDIA has abandoned him. Even Arshad Warsi has done 3 memorible movies recently in ISHQIYA, DEDH ISHQIYA and JOLLY LLB after MUNNA BHAI 2.

[Jagdeep]

An interesting debate on this thread that I've enjoyed reading.

I've not watched the movie yet though i've bought the blu ray and skipped through bits to assess PQ and AQ. In particular I was excited by the Dolby Atmos track and picturesque locations which I expected to be amazed by.

The end result? Perhaps the worst Atmos mix I've heard. Listening to Gherua in Atmos made my ears bleed. Poor, very poor. The vocals sound muffled and as though they were sung in a stadium. The sounds across the various speakers feel detached and even through 7.1 I couldn't get any better a result. The action scenes sounded strictly ok. Not impressed at all.

On the other hand (and off topic) Bajirao Mastani has an excellent Atmos mix and the music sounds pretty phenomenal even though the only decent track is Deewani Mastani.