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Ray Jackson · 09-22-2016, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Talyn

Now this....I do agree with! See I felt Kane deserved a better movie to excel as Jason. When Freddy vs Jason was taken from him, I thought he was robbed of finally playing the Jason he wanted to play.

rocknblues81 · 09-22-2016, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Talyn

Yeah it does. Sit there and tell me that horrible acting and writing of 8 doesn't take away from his performance. The heroes are only as good as villain is. It's writing 101. When the cast is acting a fool of late 80's tropes and idiocy....it's hard to take Jason seriously. So...I disagree with you. The Jasons 1-4 and 6 had better surroundings and a cast to dissect than 7,8, GTH and X....

We can't forget how Jason just totally teleports in the 8 film. It's so bad.

bigdaddyhorse · 09-22-2016, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

I don't hate the original, I just don't think it's that good...outside of the last 15 minutes or so.

Part 4 is my favorite of the series, but part 3 sucks in my humble opinion.

...don't hate me.

I ain't hating, was just curious as I consider the first 5 all classic in their own ways. 4 is also my favorite, and 3 is the bottom of the first 5, but still loved for me. I get why many hate 5, but I love it.

dallywhitty · 09-22-2016, 01:55 AM

A New Beginning is my favourite. I re-watched it recently with the commentary and it was so much fun.

Blu Myers · 09-22-2016, 01:57 AM

I'll be meeting Kane at Spooky Empire in Orlando on 7 October. Ted White and Richard Brooker are definitely my favorite Jasons though.

schlock · 09-22-2016, 02:04 AM

Brooker is easily my favorite Jason in Part 3. Menacing, but then he also comes off hilariously disinterested or like he doesn't know why he even wastes his time anymore killing these idiot teens, like how he walks off after this kill:

Part 3 is my favorite (especially in proper 3-D - which I feel is essential); otherwise, it looks horribly shot in 2-D or the lousy anaglyph version, and the gimmicks they were shooting for won't work, so the whole structure of the film will suffer flat. But presented properly, so much fun, and best last girl sequence in the whole franchise.

nousefouraname · 09-22-2016, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi

I thought it was director Ronny Yu who insisted on not going with Kane and finding somebody with more sympathetic eyes? And I think Kirzinger ended up being pretty much the worst Jason. The guy was so slow and stiff.

I kind of always felt Yu's direction made him so slow and stiff. I feel like he was going for part Frankenstein's monster, part zombie, and part puppy dog.

Obi-Wan Kenobi · 09-22-2016, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nousefouraname

I kind of always felt Yu's direction made him so slow and stiff. I feel like he was going for part Frankenstein's monster, part zombie, and part puppy dog.

Yep, one of the reasons I think Ronny Yu was not the right choice to helm Freddy vs. Jason.

nousefouraname · 09-22-2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi

Yep, one of the reasons I think Ronny Yu was not the right choice to helm Freddy vs. Jason.

Yes. His visual and directorial style is another reason the movie hasn't aged well in my opinion. It just doesn't feel like a Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street movie. It's just too stylized and glossy.

Ray Jackson · 09-22-2016, 03:34 AM

It's surprising to me that the majority of the folks here seem to downplay Kane Hodder's greatness.

The man is a living god and one of the greatest Americans in the history of this country. It wouldn't shock me one bit if he actually kills people in his spare time as part of his method acting philosophy.

His dedication to his craft means that much to him.

Every poll I've ever seen shows that Kane is the OVERWHELMING fan favorite.

...it's not even close.

I suspect that some people, not all people, but some, are conflating their preference for certain films in the series with their favorite Jason actor. But the fact that most of the Friday films that Kane was in sucked, has nothing to do with his performance.

...maybe it's a subconscious thing.

cakefactory · 09-22-2016, 03:37 AM

It's probably partly also cause he's the only name people recognize :P

Ray Jackson · 09-22-2016, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi

Yep, one of the reasons I think Ronny Yu was not the right choice to helm Freddy vs. Jason.

You mean getting a Hong Kong action director to direct one of the most anticipated American horror films of all time wasn't the right way to go?

...who could've anticipated that?

Obi-Wan Kenobi · 09-22-2016, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

You mean getting a Hong Kong action director to direct one of the most anticipated American horror films of all time wasn't the right way to go?

...who could've anticipated that?

Wish you could have brought that up with everyone at New Line at the time.

prkchopexpress · 09-22-2016, 04:15 AM

when you watch freddy vs jason, you really get the feeling that ronny yu had never even seen one of these movies before

if I remember correctly, wasn't it some dumb blonde in charge at new line who recommended yu?

this crazy lady is trying to make taco bell with real steak. whats the point?

cakefactory · 09-22-2016, 04:17 AM

Freddy Vs Jason is actually one of my favorites of the whole series

But, I'm more of a NOES guy. I think only Friday the 13th part IV would outrank it. VI might if it didn't feel so censored. I need to rewatch 3 one of these days, I barely remember that one.

Obi-Wan Kenobi · 09-22-2016, 04:26 AM

New Line went with horrible writers too who didn't seem very familiar with the Friday films if they thought Jason is afraid of water.

Thomas Irwin · 09-22-2016, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CZAR

Can anybody tell me the difference between the bluray releases of these films on June 16th 2009 vs Jan 1st 2013. I was looking at Part 2 of both release dates and one says standard edition and the other one doesnt. What does that mean? Got Em!!

The first release is Paramount. The newer one is the Warner rerelease.

nousefouraname · 09-22-2016, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi

New Line went with horrible writers too who didn't seem very familiar with the Friday films if they thought Jason is afraid of water.

Like I said, it's like fanfic...bad fanfic.

rocknblues81 · 09-22-2016, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cakefactory

Freddy Vs Jason is actually one of my favorites of the whole series

But, I'm more of a NOES guy. I think only Friday the 13th part IV would outrank it. VI might if it didn't feel so censored. I need to rewatch 3 one of these days, I barely remember that one.

Why don't you go find a pig to ****!

I love that scene.

hYPE · 09-22-2016, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ray jackson

you mean getting a hong kong action director to direct one of the most anticipated american horror films of all time wasn't the right way to go?

...who could've anticipated that?

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View Poll Results: What is your favourite Friday the 13th film(s)?
Friday the 13th (1980)	585	24.43%
Friday the 13th Part II	482	20.13%
Friday the 13th Part 3 3D	342	14.28%
Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter	720	30.06%
Friday the 13th Part V: A New Beginning	143	5.97%
Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason lives	583	24.34%
Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood	191	7.97%
Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan	133	5.55%
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday	84	3.51%
Jason X	167	6.97%
Freddy Vs. Jason	207	8.64%
Friday the 13th (2009)	128	5.34%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 2395. You may not vote on this poll

09-22-2016, 01:55 AM	#13784
dallywhitty Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Temple of Isis 4K collection:324 Blu-ray collection:1689 DVD collection:178	A New Beginning is my favourite. I re-watched it recently with the commentary and it was so much fun.

09-22-2016, 01:57 AM	#13785
Blu Myers Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Haddonfield, IL Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:655 Digital collection:10 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:108	I'll be meeting Kane at Spooky Empire in Orlando on 7 October. Ted White and Richard Brooker are definitely my favorite Jasons though.

09-22-2016, 03:34 AM	#13790
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	It's surprising to me that the majority of the folks here seem to downplay Kane Hodder's greatness. The man is a living god and one of the greatest Americans in the history of this country. It wouldn't shock me one bit if he actually kills people in his spare time as part of his method acting philosophy. His dedication to his craft means that much to him. Every poll I've ever seen shows that Kane is the OVERWHELMING fan favorite. ...it's not even close. I suspect that some people, not all people, but some, are conflating their preference for certain films in the series with their favorite Jason actor. But the fact that most of the Friday films that Kane was in sucked, has nothing to do with his performance. ...maybe it's a subconscious thing.

09-22-2016, 03:37 AM	#13791
cakefactory Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Oct 2012 Location:WI, USA 4K collection:442 Blu-ray collection:3917 DVD collection:808 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:23	It's probably partly also cause he's the only name people recognize :P

09-22-2016, 04:15 AM	#13794
prkchopexpress Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2016 4K collection:235 Blu-ray collection:1691	when you watch freddy vs jason, you really get the feeling that ronny yu had never even seen one of these movies before if I remember correctly, wasn't it some dumb blonde in charge at new line who recommended yu? this crazy lady is trying to make taco bell with real steak. whats the point?

09-22-2016, 04:17 AM	#13795
cakefactory Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Oct 2012 Location:WI, USA 4K collection:442 Blu-ray collection:3917 DVD collection:808 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:23	Freddy Vs Jason is actually one of my favorites of the whole series But, I'm more of a NOES guy. I think only Friday the 13th part IV would outrank it. VI might if it didn't feel so censored. I need to rewatch 3 one of these days, I barely remember that one.

09-22-2016, 04:26 AM	#13796
Obi-Wan Kenobi Senior Member Member since:Jan 2015	New Line went with horrible writers too who didn't seem very familiar with the Friday films if they thought Jason is afraid of water.

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