Close Encounters of the Third Kind 4K UHD (1977) (40th Anniversary Edition)

[benhoppel]

Yummie, but Dolby Vision, please.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by BenjaminG

With all that grain, it'd want to be a BD-100 or it will be an encoding disaster.

Have Sony even used a triple layer disc yet?

Nah, Sony know their shit when it comes to encodes, hence the super grainy Ghostbusters and Labyrinth fitting very nicely onto their respective BD66's thankyouverymuch.

But if they go for the same triple version (theatrical, DC, SE) branching setup as the Blu-ray then it'll need to be a triple decker for sure.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

[Show spoiler]

Atmos ?!?

It all depends on Spielberg.

[meremortal]

Wow. I only have 2 UHDs so far but more announcements like this would certaintly be nice.

[StingingVelvet]

Was the original BD a 4k remaster? I forget. If this is the same master then meh... if it's a new master than woohoo!

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Was the original BD a 4k remaster? I forget. If this is the same master then meh... if it's a new master than woohoo!

Current Blu-ray didn't get a 4K master nor were the 35mm elements 4K scanned and downsized back to 2K.

Be prepared for a new master.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Was the original BD a 4k remaster? I forget. If this is the same master then meh... if it's a new master than woohoo!

The 2007 Blu-ray was great but I think a 2K IP Scan. New master coming!!!

[HeavyHitter]

Being a Spielberg movie, we know how this will get top notch treatment.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

It all depends on Spielberg.

retain the original mix but do an Atmos mix for fun - I wanna hear them aliens scurrying on the roof over my head.

[Mr Willy Wonka]

Awesome news. Hopefully this is the start of a great year for UHD!

[Boristhespie]

I have the Special Edition on video which is what I watch. Saw another version recently on tv with other bits I hadn't seen but the ending of the Special Edition, inside the ship is the ending I prefer. Would like that.

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[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Boristhespie

I have the Special Edition on video which is what I watch. Saw another version recently on tv with other bits I hadn't seen but the ending of the Special Edition, inside the ship is the ending I prefer. Would like that.

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It depends on what cuts Spielberg wishes to show you. Me? I've ended up liking the theatrical version the best. The added scenes don't add much to the story and make you dislike his wife and kids even more.

I never liked the studio mandated inside the ship ending. It ruins the mystery.

[brainofj72]

This is going to be amazing. Cannot wait.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Current Blu-ray didn't get a 4K master nor were the 35mm elements 4K scanned and downsized back to 2K.

Be prepared for a new master.

Would the 65/70mm SFX elements be part of the new master

[BenjaminG]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Nah, Sony know their shit when it comes to encodes, hence the super grainy Ghostbusters and Labyrinth fitting very nicely onto their respective BD66's thankyouverymuch.

But if they go for the same triple version (theatrical, DC, SE) branching setup as the Blu-ray then it'll need to be a triple decker for sure.

Close Encounters runs 30 mins longer than both Ghostbusters and Labyrinth though.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by BenjaminG

Close Encounters runs 30 mins longer than both Ghostbusters and Labyrinth though.

...and Amazing Spider-Man 2 runs even longer than CE3K (142m) and its very grainy UHD encode also fitted nicely onto a double layer disc.

Point being, if you know what you're doing then up to two and a half hours of grainy UHD video isn't a major challenge for a BD66. And trust me, Sony know what they're doing. HOWEVER, if you then bring branching into the equation for a movie of that length then you need more space to avoid artefacting, as we saw on Fox's ID4.

I fully expect this to be a TL in any case, just making the point that DL can still get the job done under certain circumstances.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Would the 65/70mm SFX elements be part of the new master

i thought that the scenes were integrated for the bluray master - guess i was wrong

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Would the 65/70mm SFX elements be part of the new master

Well, Warners did that for Brade Runner's 4K Final Cut restoration 10 years ago but AFAIK Sony didn't do that for, say, Ghostbusters 4K which had 65mm VFX. Then again, the large format stuff there was blown down to anamorphic 4-perf as part of the optical printing so no large format neg of the final composited shot would exist, unlike on BR where they actually output a 65mm negative that ended up being cut into the neg for the 70mm blow-up.

So it depends on whether the VFX were composited on 65mm or shot on 65mm and printed out to 35mm, if it was the latter I can't see them wanting to rebuild the large format VFX shots from scratch. If it's the former then it still needs more work doing than just newly transferring the conformed 35mm neg (inclusive of the large-format reductions) but it's got a better chance.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Well, Warners did that for Brade Runner's 4K Final Cut restoration 10 years ago but AFAIK Sony didn't do that for, say, Ghostbusters 4K which had 65mm VFX. Then again, the large format stuff there was blown down to anamorphic 4-perf as part of the optical printing so no large format neg of the final composited shot would exist, unlike on BR where they actually output a 65mm negative that ended up being cut into the neg for the 70mm blow-up.

So it depends on whether the VFX were composited on 65mm or shot on 65mm and printed out to 35mm, if it was the latter I can't see them wanting to rebuild the large format VFX shots from scratch. If it's the former then it still needs more work doing than just newly transferring the conformed 35mm neg (inclusive of the large-format reductions) but it's got a better chance.

it is the latter, as I recall; it's mentioned in the 'Making of' book by Ray Morton

[Geoff D]

There we are then. With the VFX only existing in a finished form as a 35mm reduction I can't see Sony doing a load of heavy lifting to change that.