Rogue One: A Star Wars Story 3D (2016) [Region Free]

[s_har]

Originally Posted by Frank@Chicago

Can you even order from Target.com? Will they ship to Canada?

Target currently ships to Europe so I'd think it is likely they also ships to Canada.

I got my 5 disc Target 3D boxset last week. It says region A,B,C on the box so that's great as I had taken a risk in ordering it not knowing if it was region locked or not. Still haven't tried any of the discs though so I can't say if both the 3D BD, BD and extras BD are all region free (the DVDs are region 1 though).

[fatediesel]

I watched Rogue One 3D over the weekend and found the 3D pretty underwhelming. I didn't think it added much to the movie experience. Maybe my expectations were too high because of how good the 3D was on Doctor Strange, which was the last 3D movie I watched and which had fantastic 3D effects.

[Frank@Chicago]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

I watched Rogue One 3D over the weekend and found the 3D pretty underwhelming. I didn't think it added much to the movie experience. Maybe my expectations were too high because of how good the 3D was on Doctor Strange, which was the last 3D movie I watched and which had fantastic 3D effects.

The 3D in Rogue One was 'You are There!', the 3D in Dr. Strange was 'You are Where?'.

So for me, it was all about the story: realism vs. the unreal. 3D should serve the story.

With Rogue One, they were trying to almost go Retro. During close passes of iconic Capitol Ships, it's almost like they were trying to make CG ships look like 1980 models.

All they missed was one 3D ship pop-out and IMAX 3D scenes (which Disney denied us).

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

I watched Rogue One 3D over the weekend and found the 3D pretty underwhelming. I didn't think it added much to the movie experience. Maybe my expectations were too high because of how good the 3D was on Doctor Strange, which was the last 3D movie I watched and which had fantastic 3D effects.

A 3D FYI is very much appreciated, but when commenting on 3D quality of an encode, it is necessary to include player & display model so the experience can become a judgement. Without detail information, a judgement is only as good as an undocumented opinion.

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by Paul H

A 3D FYI is very much appreciated, but when commenting on 3D quality of an encode, it is necessary to include player & display model so the experience can become a judgement. Without detail information, a judgement is only as good as an undocumented opinion.

Epson 5030 projector with active 3D on a 120" screen.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Epson 5030 projector with active 3D on a 120" screen.

Thanks! Also, a Blu-ray 3D player model # helps. It will provide source information about the 3D processing efficiency of the player's CPU.

[evoll]

Yes I agree,as Paul said before and I can say the same thing the 3d on the oppo 203 looks better or more pronounced than the 103 I had.

[DJR662]

I ordered the regular UK 3D release since I prefer to avoid steelbooks whenever possible. 3D edition in my country seems to be steelbook only.

[Frank@Chicago]

Originally Posted by evoll

Yes I agree,as Paul said before and I can say the same thing the 3d on the oppo 203 looks better or more pronounced than the 103 I had.

I'm thinking about the new LG 4K/3D player w/DV for $299, it just came out.

I guess the only way to test the 3D is to pick one up and give it a spin...

[levcore]

Rewatched the first forty minutes last night. Very mediocre 3D, very disappointing and a huge missed opportunity. I remember things ramping up a bit for the finale though so i'll probably watch the rest this evening.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by levcore

Rewatched the first forty minutes last night. Very mediocre 3D, very disappointing and a huge missed opportunity. I remember things ramping up a bit for the finale though so i'll probably watch the rest this evening.

The finale froma 3d perspective is certainly far better. To me the issue isn't strictly speaking the depth though, it is that the film just wasn't framed with 3d in mind at all and they didn't get lucky where it just so happened to be framed well for 3d either.

Solid, but one I can certainly see why someone would pick the 4k version over the 3d version if it where available. Something I wouldn't say about very good 3d, let alone great 3d.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

The finale froma 3d perspective is certainly far better. To me the issue isn't strictly speaking the depth though, it is that the film just wasn't framed with 3d in mind at all and they didn't get lucky where it just so happened to be framed well for 3d either.

Solid, but one I can certainly see why someone would pick the 4k version over the 3d version if it where available. Something I wouldn't say about very good 3d, let alone great 3d.

I agree about the movie not being framed for 3D. It was a similar issue with Edwards' previous movie Godzilla. Although I think the 3D in Godzilla came across better than in Rogue One.

I don't get it, after Force Awakens excellent 3D conversion I thought it would be fair game to expect a similar level of 3D conversion work with all the Star Wars movies but no.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by levcore

I agree about the movie not being framed for 3D. It was a similar issue with Edwards' previous movie Godzilla. Although I think the 3D in Godzilla came across better than in Rogue One.

I don't get it, after Force Awakens excellent 3D conversion I thought it would be fair game to expect a similar level of 3D conversion work with all the Star Wars movies but no.

Edward's stereoacuity talents clearly hit and miss.

[bud_brigman]

Originally Posted by Paul H

Edward's stereoacuity talents clearly hit and miss.

I think the 3D was the least of the problems in Rogue One's production history.

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by bud_brigman

I think the 3D was the least of the problems in Rogue One's production history.

I think that could also be an issue with Rogue One's 3D (while still decent IMO) being weaker than Force Awakens, as they were reshooting a lot of the film until pretty late in post production schedule and may not have had as much 3D conversion time available as Force Awakens did.

Still, whatever changed or whatever production difficulties they had, given the end result I feel it mostly worked out.

[levcore]

Yes I would be interested to know if that was the case. That might explain such a lacklustre 3D presentation after the very effective TFA 3D.

[film11]

Originally Posted by levcore

Yes I would be interested to know if that was the case. That might explain such a lacklustre 3D presentation after the very effective TFA 3D.

And don't forget that TFA had much more lead time for their 3D disc conversion. Part of the reason why its 3D on disc was stronger than what many experienced in theaters.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by film11

And don't forget that TFA had much more lead time for their 3D disc conversion. Part of the reason why its 3D on disc was stronger than what many experienced in theaters.

Sorry, but no. That is the same 3d we saw in cinemas. They just ported it across to blu-ray. That made no impact between the difference in the 3d at all. The 3d in cinemas for TFA was well done and that shows on the disc, the 3d in rogue one was underwhelming until the finale and that also shows on the disc, just as it was in cinemas. Both transfers to blu-ray where done at a reference level from a video perspective. The issue is the differing quality of the 3d conversion which was released into cinemas for both.

The taken longer to get to blu-ray was just a ploy to maximise profits and made no difference to the presentation at all.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

Sorry, but no. That is the same 3d we saw in cinemas. They just ported it across to blu-ray. That made no impact between the difference in the 3d at all. The 3d in cinemas for TFA was well done and that shows on the disc, the 3d in rogue one was underwhelming until the finale and that also shows on the disc, just as it was in cinemas. Both transfers to blu-ray where done at a reference level from a video perspective. The issue is the differing quality of the 3d conversion which was released into cinemas for both.

The taken longer to get to blu-ray was just a ploy to maximise profits and made no difference to the presentation at all.

Agreed that studios won't go back to alter the 3D, as they want us to experience the same thing at home. I loved the 3D in theaters and felt the same way at home for Force Awakens 3D. Medium to strong 3D layers.

YouTube

Here's a foreign language 3D trailer for Rogue One 3D

YouTube

And an earlier R1 trailer.

[Richard--W]

I was disappointed in the image quality of the digital capture, but I'm always disappointed in digital capture. It just isn't good enough. That having been said, ROGUE ONE is only the STAR WARS film I've liked since RETURN OF THE JEDI and the best entry in the series since THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. it is neither childish nor juvenile. It doesn't try to be cute all the time like George Lucas' "prequels." ROGUE ONE is the prequel he should have made. It's a serious no-sh it sc-fi / combat / tragedy that really delivers in the dramatic and action categories. It also makes imaginative use of the STAR WARS mythos and story-telling structure. I agree with the complaint that the characters lack warmth and humor, but there is a growing familiarity with them as the film progresses. Darth Vader is imposing and impressive in his evil. The third act -- with the rebels invocation of the Force as if they were praying the Hail Mary -- and aftermath are strong stuff. Love how the third act and aftermath lead gracefully into the opening scene of the very first STAR WARS film, with young Princess Leia speaking the last word. I also really enjoyed the CGI recreation of Peter Cushing, one of my favorite British actors. I want to praise the story's virtues more specifically, but that would spoil the film for those who haven't seen it yet.

The biggest change fans have to get used is that the STAR WARS movies are now female lead stories instead of male leads with the men lending support to heroines.

In comparison, ROGUE ONE makes THE FORCE AWAKENS look pathetic.

I bought the Target Exclusive 3-D version. I don't know what's in the extras, but the transfer is everything it should be on the digital capture scale.

My biggest complaint, aside from the nature of digital capture, is that the film isn't directed for 3-D. I like the director's work very much, but he's never mindful of the 3-D possibilities. He didn't need to blur backgrounds all the time. He could have provided some layered compositions and a sharp depth of field for the stereoscopic conversion. Instead, the conversion is like a duty job. They do their best with it, but that ain't much. Yeah the 3-D version is in 3-D but it's not a 3-D experience you'll remember.