Unforgiven (1992) (Remastered)

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by HuggyBear73

A 4K UHD isn't that much better than a 4K blu-ray. I've seen enough comparisons. Not worth upgrading imo.

Insanity. The improvement depends on the movie of course, but there are many which are a really big upgrade. This is what some said about DVD to blu-ray, because they didn't want to pay for blu-ray. It's just a rationale for avoiding paying up.

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

This is where I'm at with UHD for the time being. Cautious about screwing with color timing, grain, etc.

The vast majority look pretty much the same in these areas, only with more detail, more texture and better dynamic range. There are a few that are bigger changes, but they're few and far between, and the forum helps you pick them out.

[infiniteCR]

Sounds to me like the bluray is so darn good it will help sell the UHD disc right now. If it were just a tad better a movie I might've given in and bought an extra UHD disc that I would never use just to own the blu now. These newer blus just keep getting better and better.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

Sounds to me like the bluray is so darn good it will help sell the UHD disc right now. If it were just a tad better a movie I might've given in and bought an extra UHD disc that I would never use just to own the blu now. These newer blus just keep getting better and better.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

Sounds to me like the bluray is so darn good it will help sell the UHD disc right now. If it were just a tad better a movie I might've given in and bought an extra UHD disc that I would never use just to own the blu now. These newer blus just keep getting better and better.

You don't like pro-2nd amendment propaganda films? Come on, now. If everyone had a gun and carried it on their person at all times, there would be 0 crime and we would live in a utopia. It's a scientific fact. Plus we would all be able to rebel against the nuclear- and biological weapon-owning government should they become tyrannical.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

You don't like pro-2nd amendment propaganda films? Come on, now. If everyone had a gun and carried it on their person at all times, there would be 0 crime and we would live in a utopia. It's a scientific fact. Plus we would all be able to rebel against the nuclear- and biological weapon-owning government should they become tyrannical.

Yeah. It's wise to overlook the supposed message about gun control in order to fully enjoy Unforgiven.

(Apparently, people who want there to be no gun ownership and therefore significantly reduced risk of gun violence are just about as bad as people who want all the guns and want everybody to be shooting at each other all the time. And communists too.)

It helps that it makes absolutely no sense on those terms and therefore easy to disavow.

Clint and Morgan's characters are supposedly wise and responsible enough to own and use guns, but wind up killing men because the misogynist sheriff didn't give the girl that they disfigured any justice. And it winds up getting Morgan killed himself.

Hackman's character isn't a sadistic misogynist because he's pro gun control or vice versa.

There isn't any coherent suggestion that less gun control in Big Whiskey would have made things any better for the people that lived there.

[HD Goofnut]

Hopefully Wal-Mart has this out tomorrow. I was surprised to find 3:10 to Yuma on UHD there a few days ago.

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Yeah. It's wise to overlook the supposed message about gun control in order to fully enjoy Unforgiven.

(Apparently, people who want there to be no gun ownership and therefore significantly reduced risk of gun violence are just about as bad as people who want all the guns and want everybody to be shooting at each other all the time. And communists too.)

It helps that it makes absolutely no sense on those terms and therefore easy to disavow.

Clint and Morgan's characters are supposedly wise and responsible enough to own and use guns, but wind up killing men because the misogynist sheriff didn't give the girl that they disfigured any justice. And it winds up getting Morgan killed himself.

Hackman's character isn't a sadistic misogynist because he's pro gun control or vice versa.

There isn't any coherent suggestion that less gun control in Big Whiskey would have made things any better for the people that lived there.

It's a @$#&! Western dude!!

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by brian9229

It's a @$#&! Western dude!!

Tell that to Clint.

He has stated explicitly that he thought it was useful to remind people that gun control can be a kind of tyranny, by making the sheriff who hates gunmen a tyrannical sadist and all the rest.

He was annoyed at some state politician whose gun control policy got up his nose around that time.

Like I said. If you ignore that stated intent and some of the incongruities it throws up, the movie is wonderful.

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Most people on my sci-fi forums say these exact words about DVD. "They look great on my setup! Who cares about BD?" At the end of the day we all have our "good enough" point I guess. I'll tell ya though, I was saying much the same thing a year ago but after you see a lot of UHDs you become a true believer. Even for catalog movies like Ghostbusters it makes for a very nice upgrade.

People often like to enhance the situation of not having something (including intelligence) as some kind of virtue. Even on here you see people climbing over themselves to announce that they've immediately sold their extant copy of a film in anticipation of a better release announced for the near future. And even boasting that they got rid of the old one without any notification of an upgrade "I'm so glad I sold my etc, etc, etc....."

[Cremildo]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Tell that to Clint.

He has stated explicitly that he thought it was useful to remind people that gun control can be a kind of tyranny, by making the sheriff who hates gunmen a tyrannical sadist and all the rest.

He was annoyed at some state politician whose gun control policy got up his nose around that time.

Like I said. If you ignore that stated intent and some of the incongruities it throws up, the movie is wonderful.

This is the first time EVER that I see Unforgiven absurdly reduced to being a pro-gun piece of propaganda, instead of being the sobering, melancholy re-assessment of the gunslinger mythos that has garnered enduring praise for over 20 years.

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

You don't like pro-2nd amendment propaganda films? Come on, now. If everyone had a gun and carried it on their person at all times, there would be 0 crime and we would live in a utopia. It's a scientific fact. Plus we would all be able to rebel against the nuclear- and biological weapon-owning government should they become tyrannical.

I only meant that it was not quite a Lawrence of Arabia or Star Wars type title that could make me lose my patience in holding out for the release I want to buy. I don't care about political messages in movies as long as I enjoy them. Same with my friends

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

You don't like pro-2nd amendment propaganda films? Come on, now. If everyone had a gun and carried it on their person at all times, there would be 0 crime and we would live in a utopia. It's a scientific fact. Plus we would all be able to rebel against the nuclear- and biological weapon-owning government should they become tyrannical.