3D Blu-rays with expanded or variable aspect ratio & frame breaking effects [IMAX] - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Movieman66 · 01-13-2017, 08:04 AM

There is a short bit on The Peanuts Movie 3D Blu-ray where there is three instances of frame breaking. It's not in the movie itself, but in the "Put on your 3-D glasses now" piece that plays just before the main menu.

Tonppa · 01-19-2017, 07:08 PM

(Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Dfan

at the end, right before the end credits, Flynn sticks his hands out into the letterboxed black bar area.

Still can't see this frame breaking you are mentioning. I'm sorry but now you have to be really specific about the details (time frame at least).

Tonppa · 01-19-2017, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman66

There is a short bit on The Peanuts Movie 3D Blu-ray where there is three instances of frame breaking. It's not in the movie itself, but in the "Put on your 3-D glasses now" piece that plays just before the main menu.

(At least) The Nordic 3D blu-ray doesn't have that clip before the main menu / movie...

Paul H · 01-19-2017, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Dfan

at the end, right before the end credits, Flynn sticks his hands out into the letterboxed black bar area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonppa

(Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs)

Still can't see this frame breaking you are mentioning. I'm sorry but now you have to be really specific about the details (time frame at least).

Also couldn't find the breaking-the-bar frame when checking the 6/22/10 U.S. release.

3Dfan, can you provide the timecode location available when pressing the Info button on the disc-player for that scene?

Ultra-Magnus · 01-22-2017, 02:00 AM

Personally, I hate changing AR's. I think its stupid. I know why directors say they do it, but I just dont like it. If you want to convey more horizontal height to a scene, then shoot it in such a manner that objects on the left and right of the screen convey that intention. I think its a lazy way for a director to achieve a "look" or "feeling" without doing it within the confines of the AR the movie is being shot in. I can understand why some movies are shot in a narrower AR. Me personally, I feel a real artist will find a way to convey the mood or emotion they are looking for while staying in one AR. Thats just my 2 cents. Plus, its a pain in the ass for HT to watch those movies.

Interdimensional · 02-06-2017, 01:33 AM

Finally got around to watching Minions, which I'd had for a while, but hadn't been particularly inclined to check out.

Given the general concept, and as a franchise spinoff, it's about as good a movie as you could hope for, and a lot better than I was expecting. I thought the overall 3D presentation was solid. There were a number of visual gags that felt as if they were specifically conceived, or at least deliberately framed for 3-D effect.

So I was happy with it, but there is a post-credit sequence that puts all of that to shame.

I counted about 5 instances of frame-breaking, including 2 very strong popouts that made it seem like they'd been holding back the whole time during the actual movie. This is a studio that clearly has people who appreciate what 3-D can add to the experience.

kidglov3s · 02-06-2017, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra-Magnus

Personally, I hate changing AR's. I think its stupid. I know why directors say they do it, but I just dont like it. If you want to convey more horizontal height to a scene, then shoot it in such a manner that objects on the left and right of the screen convey that intention. I think its a lazy way for a director to achieve a "look" or "feeling" without doing it within the confines of the AR the movie is being shot in. I can understand why some movies are shot in a narrower AR. Me personally, I feel a real artist will find a way to convey the mood or emotion they are looking for while staying in one AR. Thats just my 2 cents. Plus, its a pain in the ass for HT to watch those movies.

I know a big part of why I was annoyed with Civil War 3D was that due to having to leave it open for the 1.78:1 portion I ended up having to watch over 2 hours of unmatted scope, which I have not had to do ever since I got my projector and could matte for aspect ratios. I agree re: consistent aspect ratio being preferable except in the case of Brainstorm where Trumbull made really great use of multiple ARs. If something is going to change aspect ratio for effect I suppose I find opening up the sides more appealing than opening up the top and bottom.

Smaugone · 02-07-2017, 03:14 AM

This is only slightly related, but...when Disney showed The Jungle Book 3D trailers last year, there was frame breaking all through it, to make 2D seem more 3D. The movie itself is in 1.85:1 ratio, so there's not much frame to break. Just a little disappointed ��.

toasted · 02-11-2017, 09:33 PM

There was a brief sequence in The LEGO Batman Movie 3D where the aspect ratio got slightly wider and there was some frame break that will likely carry over to the 3D BD.

Tonppa · 03-11-2017, 08:36 PM

Bump.

I've been updating the list, but there hasn't been any new messages. I'm still sure there are other 3D blu-rays with changing aspect ratios or frame breaking effects! Please let me know of 'em!

grodd · 05-07-2017, 10:01 AM

Star Trek: Into the Darkness has a shot or two in the beginning. The cable that Spock is on breaks out of frame. And maybe an arrow around the same time.

Damon1281 · 05-07-2017, 01:38 PM

Mojin: the lost legend has changing AR. There are probably dozens that do this that I just didn't notice until it was mentioned. I wish they were all in 1.78. I would buy the 2.35 argument if the tops of everybodys' heads weren't cut off. Annoying, particularly so if it was just phony 2.35 just to get a frame breaking effect in.

Tonppa · 05-24-2017, 08:39 PM

Sorry for the long delay. Anyways, I'm now back and updating the list as before.

Tonppa · 05-24-2017, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grodd

Star Trek: Into the Darkness has a shot or two in the beginning. The cable that Spock is on breaks out of frame. And maybe an arrow around the same time.

I checked the beginning of the movie (including the scenes you mentioned) but didn't notice any frame breaking effects. Yes, there are nice 3D effects, but it's not the same as frame breaking.

If you are sure there are frame breaking effects could you please mention the exact time frame they are present?

Thank you!

xplorar · 06-20-2017, 01:25 PM

Why is this thread not in 'Sticky' section?

grodd · 06-20-2017, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonppa

I checked the beginning of the movie (including the scenes you mentioned) but didn't notice any frame breaking effects. Yes, there are nice 3D effects, but it's not the same as frame breaking.

If you are sure there are frame breaking effects could you please mention the exact time frame they are present?

Thank you!

Yes, I'll see if I can get a photo. Its really quick.
Edit: You were correct. The pop out was really strong, so strong I thought it was frame breaking.

Smaugone · 07-02-2017, 09:56 PM

Penguins of Madagascar has a quick aspect change and frame break during the big mutant penguin battle.

reewinder · 07-03-2017, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smaugone

Penguins of Madagascar has a quick aspect change and frame break during the big mutant penguin battle.

I think this movie had more than one frame break. I watched it a couple weeks ago and noticed one or two towards the beginning of the movie as well.

Tonppa · 08-03-2017, 05:29 PM

Updated the list again!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smaugone

Penguins of Madagascar has a quick aspect change and frame break during the big mutant penguin battle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reewinder

I think this movie had more than one frame break. I watched it a couple weeks ago and noticed one or two towards the beginning of the movie as well.

Sorry, but I can't find these scenes...

Tonppa · 09-05-2017, 08:14 AM

Just updated the list.

I noticed seven frame breaking effects on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017):
at 0:39:57, 0:39:59, 0:42:04, 0:48:05, 1:10:28, 1:15:03 and a very beautiful one starting at 2:03:12.

As some of these are very quick I was wondering if I missed some other ones. Did you see more of them?

(The times have been taken from the Nordic 3D blu-ray, but I assume they are OK with other 3D releases as well)

01-13-2017, 08:04 AM	#41
Movieman66 Senior Member Member since:Jan 2015 4K collection:62 Blu-ray collection:784 Trading Score:15	There is a short bit on The Peanuts Movie 3D Blu-ray where there is three instances of frame breaking. It's not in the movie itself, but in the "Put on your 3-D glasses now" piece that plays just before the main menu.

01-22-2017, 02:00 AM	#45
Ultra-Magnus Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:8	Personally, I hate changing AR's. I think its stupid. I know why directors say they do it, but I just dont like it. If you want to convey more horizontal height to a scene, then shoot it in such a manner that objects on the left and right of the screen convey that intention. I think its a lazy way for a director to achieve a "look" or "feeling" without doing it within the confines of the AR the movie is being shot in. I can understand why some movies are shot in a narrower AR. Me personally, I feel a real artist will find a way to convey the mood or emotion they are looking for while staying in one AR. Thats just my 2 cents. Plus, its a pain in the ass for HT to watch those movies.

02-06-2017, 01:33 AM	#46
Interdimensional Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2014	Finally got around to watching Minions, which I'd had for a while, but hadn't been particularly inclined to check out. Given the general concept, and as a franchise spinoff, it's about as good a movie as you could hope for, and a lot better than I was expecting. I thought the overall 3D presentation was solid. There were a number of visual gags that felt as if they were specifically conceived, or at least deliberately framed for 3-D effect. So I was happy with it, but there is a post-credit sequence that puts all of that to shame. I counted about 5 instances of frame-breaking, including 2 very strong popouts that made it seem like they'd been holding back the whole time during the actual movie. This is a studio that clearly has people who appreciate what 3-D can add to the experience.

02-07-2017, 03:14 AM	#48
Smaugone Special Member Member since:Sep 2012 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:327	This is only slightly related, but...when Disney showed The Jungle Book 3D trailers last year, there was frame breaking all through it, to make 2D seem more 3D. The movie itself is in 1.85:1 ratio, so there's not much frame to break. Just a little disappointed ��.

02-11-2017, 09:33 PM	#49
toasted Active Member Member since:Nov 2016 4K collection:423 Blu-ray collection:898 DVD collection:9	There was a brief sequence in The LEGO Batman Movie 3D where the aspect ratio got slightly wider and there was some frame break that will likely carry over to the 3D BD.

03-11-2017, 08:36 PM	#50
Tonppa Senior Member Member since:Jul 2016	Bump. I've been updating the list, but there hasn't been any new messages. I'm still sure there are other 3D blu-rays with changing aspect ratios or frame breaking effects! Please let me know of 'em!

05-07-2017, 10:01 AM	#51
grodd Power Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Northern CA Trading Score:3	Star Trek: Into the Darkness has a shot or two in the beginning. The cable that Spock is on breaks out of frame. And maybe an arrow around the same time.

05-07-2017, 01:38 PM	#52
Damon1281 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- MA collection:- Digital collection:-	Mojin: the lost legend has changing AR. There are probably dozens that do this that I just didn't notice until it was mentioned. I wish they were all in 1.78. I would buy the 2.35 argument if the tops of everybodys' heads weren't cut off. Annoying, particularly so if it was just phony 2.35 just to get a frame breaking effect in.

05-24-2017, 08:39 PM	#53
Tonppa Senior Member Member since:Jul 2016	Sorry for the long delay. Anyways, I'm now back and updating the list as before.

06-20-2017, 01:25 PM	#55
xplorar Active Member Member since:Nov 2009	Why is this thread not in 'Sticky' section?

07-02-2017, 09:56 PM	#57
Smaugone Special Member Member since:Sep 2012 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:327	Penguins of Madagascar has a quick aspect change and frame break during the big mutant penguin battle.

09-05-2017, 08:14 AM	#60
Tonppa Senior Member Member since:Jul 2016	Just updated the list. I noticed seven frame breaking effects on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017): at 0:39:57, 0:39:59, 0:42:04, 0:48:05, 1:10:28, 1:15:03 and a very beautiful one starting at 2:03:12. As some of these are very quick I was wondering if I missed some other ones. Did you see more of them? (The times have been taken from the Nordic 3D blu-ray, but I assume they are OK with other 3D releases as well)

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