It (2017)

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by Merkur

Planning to see it next week but debating whether to see it in a regular theater with ATMOS or IMAX. I've experienced ATMOS before and the movie wasn't filmed nor formatted for IMAX.

It depends on if picture quality or price is your determining factor. I'm a big fan of IMAX and think that should get you the best looking version of the film, but It is a smaller scale movie than I don't think really needs to be seen on IMAX, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to save some money and see it in a regular theater.

As for sound, IMAX and Atmos should be great, I'd probably say IMAX 12 Channel sound is the best I've come across, but that's only in IMAX laser and select IMAX Digital theaters. In a standard theater (probably was 5.1) the sound mix was fine, but only really stood out in a couple moments.

[sandman slim]

Originally Posted by brooks101189

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...-night-1036714

13.5 million in Thursday night showings

You guys think $100 million opening weekend is a possibility now?

[brooks101189]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

You guys think $100 million opening weekend is a possibility now?

There's a chance

[dallywhitty]

Saw it for the second time today accompanied by my fiancée. Like myself, she's watched plenty of horror films, read the book, watched the mini-series... but she wasn't prepared for the projector scene. Scared the shit out of her. You may think you've seen it all on account of the teaser trailer, but trust me, you haven't.

Watching it again boosted my appreciation for the film. Perhaps it's because I knew what to expect, but the minor issues I had the first time (the pacing, the CGI) bothered me less, whereas the things I liked about the film, I liked even more.

The scene with Pennywise and Eddie at 29 Neibolt Street. Love it. Sod it, I'm boosting my initial 4.5 to a 5.

"Time to float."

[The Great Owl]

I have a few more random thoughts about IT that I did not bring up in my review (God knows that my review was already long enough.)...

1. I really love the way that Eddie Kaspbrak is portrayed in this film. He's still a frail kid, but he's not quite as meek as he is in King's novel. He doesn't take any crap from Richie Tozier, and he busts Richie's balls as much as Richie busts his. Considering that this film takes place in 1989 instead of in 1958, I think that this slight alteration with Eddie's character makes perfect sense.

2. Mike Hanlon's character is greatly altered, and he is no longer the one who is fascinated with the history of Derry. The movie makes Ben the one who traces back the history of Pennywise in Derry, with the Ironworks and such, and I suspect that this was possibly just to make the movie flow with more simplicity and better pacing. I think that the filmmakers made the right choice for the purposes of how this story plays out on the screen.
Still, I'm really really curious to see how this plays into what becomes of the adult Mike Hanlon. I wonder if he'll still be a librarian and/or still remain in Derry as an adult for the second IT movie.

3. Regarding the ending...

[Show spoiler]I love love love how IT ends on a quiet and sweet note, with the lengthy dialogue sequence in the Barrens. I am reminded of why I loved the ending of The Fellowship of the Ring so much, because the warm-hearted dialogue between Sam and Frodo on the boat was the perfect emotional cooldown after the crazy intense Orc battle. If IT had simply ended with the spectacular defeat of Pennywise, then the movie would have lacked the emotional resonance that makes it so good as a whole. The last five minutes of this movie are perfect, just perfect.

4. Also, regarding the ending...

[Show spoiler]I really enjoy how we sense that Stan Iris has come apart at the mental seams more so than the other members of the Losers' Club. It's barely, only barely, noticeable, and, for all I know, the filmmakers may change this storyline altogether for the second IT movie with the adults, but there really is just a small glimpse of how Stan does not seem to be dealing with the trauma quite as well as the others.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

Still, I'm really really curious to see how this plays into what becomes of the adult Mike Hanlon. I wonder if he'll still be a librarian and/or still remain in Derry as an adult for the second IT movie.

Muschietti recently expressed some of his ideas as to what he'll be doing with Mike in Chapter Two, and they're not great. I hope I'm wrong, but I get the impression that they'll be drastically altering the adult timeline.

[iamsometal]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Muschietti recently expressed some of his ideas as to what he'll be doing with Mike in Chapter Two, and they're not great. I hope I'm wrong, but I get the impression that they'll be drastically altering the adult timeline.

That's a bummer. Mike being the one who stayed behind and kept watch over Derry is really my favorite part of the adults' stories.

And they didn't set up Ben to be a brilliant architect at all, except for maybe his diorama in his first scene. I thought that was pretty weird that they cut all of their building stuff together scenes. I get why, you gotta keep that plot moving, but that's where a lot of the Losers' initial bonding occurs.

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Muschietti recently expressed some of his ideas as to what he'll be doing with Mike in Chapter Two, and they're not great. I hope I'm wrong, but I get the impression that they'll be drastically altering the adult timeline.

[Show spoiler]It sort of has to be alter because Henry Bowers is clearly dead so I'm wondering how it's going to play out as adults

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by iamsometal

That's a bummer. Mike being the one who stayed behind and kept watch over Derry is really my favorite part of the adults' stories.

Oh, Mike still fulfills the role of the lighthouse keeper, but Muschietti wants to make him a junkie. That way Mike witnesses the origin of It during a drug trip, as opposed to inhaling smoke like in the novel.

Yeah...

Originally Posted by Ant1010

[Show spoiler]It sort of has to be alter because Henry Bowers is clearly dead so I'm wondering how it's going to play out as adults

[Show spoiler]We don't see his body, so it's feasible that he somehow survived his descent down the well. He's an important character in both timelines, so it'd be a shitty move if he was killed off for good.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Mandalorian

Didn't care for the ones you omitted, or haven't seen them yet?

I have not seen those yet.

[kidglov3s]

I wonder why they changed the scene between Eddie and the pharmacist, beyond just because they could. That's probably young Eddie's most critical character moment in the novel/miniseries and it had no impact the way they handled it (or rather side-stepped it). Not the biggest change/decision they made, but the one I find to be a real head-scratcher.

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Oh, Mike still fulfills the role of the lighthouse keeper, but Muschietti wants to make him a junkie. That way Mike witnesses the origin of It during a drug trip, as opposed to inhaling smoke like in the novel.

Yeah...

[Show spoiler]We don't see his body, so it's feasible that he somehow survived his descent down the well. He's an important character in both timelines, so it'd be a shitty move if he was killed off for good.

[Show spoiler]Dude was bouncing around like a pinball lol it will be interesting if he survived that

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by kidglov3s

I wonder why they changed the scene between Eddie and the pharmacist, beyond just because they could. That's probably young Eddie's biggest character moment in the novel/miniseries and it had no impact the way they handled it (or rather side-stepped it).

You mean Greta being the one who tells him? Didn't bother me. I think Eddie standing up to his mother is the important thing.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Oh, Mike still fulfills the role of the lighthouse keeper, but Muschietti wants to make him a junkie. That way Mike witnesses the origin of It during a drug trip, as opposed to inhaling smoke like in the novel.

Yeah...

[Show spoiler]We don't see his body, so it's feasible that he somehow survived his descent down the well. He's an important character in both timelines, so it'd be a shitty move if he was killed off for good.

In my opinion, Muschietti's idea for the adult Mike Hanlon could conceivably make sense. If Mike Hanlon is the only one who remains in Derry, then the memories and the associated mental torment of those memories could tear at him in a bad way, whereas the rest of the Losers' Club leaves town and forgets all about Pennywise. In the next movie, Mike Hanlon's adult outcome could play out similarly to that of the lead character in last year's Best Picture movie, Moonlight.

Oh, and...

[Show spoiler]
I'm willing to bet that Henry Bowers is totally still alive. I'd like to think that his death would have been more gruesome, had he died, because the audience would have wanted to watch him come to a really really bad end.

[kidglov3s]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

In my opinion, Muschietti's idea for the adult Mike Hanlon could conceivably make sense. If Mike Hanlon is the only one who remains in Derry, then the memories and the associated mental torment of those memories could tear at him in a bad way, whereas the rest of the Losers' Club leaves town and forgets all about Pennywise. In the next movie, Mike Hanlon's adult outcome could play out similarly to that of the lead character in last year's Best Picture movie, Moonlight.

Oh, and...

[Show spoiler]
I'm willing to bet that Henry Bowers is totally still alive. I'd like to think that his death would have been more gruesome, had he died, because the audience would have wanted to watch him come to a really really bad end.

(to the spoiler)

[Show spoiler]I hope so, I love how he gets recruited to take on the losers as adults, cheesy and ultimately go-nowhere as it ends up being.

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

You mean Greta being the one who tells him? Didn't bother me. I think Eddie standing up to his mother is the important thing.

That's his biggest action for sure, but I thought the dynamic of having an adult conversation with the pharmacist, the pharmacist hitting Eddie with the truth out of genuine well-intentioned concern and Eddie coming to grips with the truth in that scenario was a much more powerful moment than him being casually hit with the truth in an absentminded act of bullying.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by kidglov3s

I wonder why they changed the scene between Eddie and the pharmacist, beyond just because they could. That's probably young Eddie's most critical character moment in the novel/miniseries and it had no impact the way they handled it (or rather side-stepped it). Not the biggest change/decision they made, but the one I find to be a real head-scratcher.

Eddie is a lot more assertive in this movie than he is in Stephen King's novel, probably because this plays a lot better for the 1989 setting than the 1958 time of the novel.

This movie version of Eddie probably would have given pharmacist Keene the middle finger and cursed him out.

[Bumblefeet]

Saw IT today, pleasantly surprised by how fresh the story was presented and how great the chemistry was between the young actors.

I read the book long ago and am most familiar with the mini-series, and this movie brings back memories of both in a good way while focusing on elements the miniseries did not adapt from the book as well as toying around with new material. But the terror and scope really benefits from this being a movie adaptation instead of a tv mini-series and taking the fantastical bits to whole other level.

I am also pleased to have seen a horror movie with a great orchestral score, as vital for the movie as it was back when the miniseries came out.

Had a fun time at the movies on a suitably grey and rainy day.

[sanriel]

I wonder what Tim Curry think about the new one.

[Black Sabbath]

Thought it was great. My only small complaint was

[Show spoiler]maybe Richie was a little too "let me make a joke out of nearly anything, including killing Pennywise"

, but other than that, no real issues. Great acting all around, great directing, everything. It didn't depend on jump scares or anything like that - just wanted to prey on fear in general.

4/5

[Scottie]

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