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Old 12-22-2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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Or, we could simply let the earth go through it's current natural cycle of warming and cooling.....just like it's done for millions of years!
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:07 PM   #2
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Or, we could simply let the earth go through it's current natural cycle of warming and cooling.....just like it's done for millions of years!
Same thing should apply to dying people right? We should let people die naturally instead of performing surgeries, giving medicine or medical assistance right?

I'm all for natural cycles then.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:08 PM   #3
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I find it pretty interesting
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:13 PM   #4
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Same thing should apply to dying people right? We should let people die naturally instead of performing surgeries, giving medicine or medical assistance right?

I'm all for natural cycles then.
because those are the same thing...

i'll agree we arent helping things with our pollution, but global warming wasnt directly caused by us.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:18 PM   #5
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because those are the same thing...

i'll agree we arent helping things with our pollution, but global warming wasnt directly caused by us.
It is the same thing. A natural cycle.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:58 PM   #6
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because those are the same thing...

i'll agree we arent helping things with our pollution, but global warming wasnt directly caused by us.

The earth does go through natural warming and cooling cycles.... but there is also no doubt that greenhouse gasses are accelerating the process.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:03 PM   #7
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cool the earth??? It has been below -20degress where i live for a week and a half so i can't work. I want it to be warmer.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:15 PM   #8
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Personally I am more pessimistic. I don't think this (or anything else) will change the climate issues. I think it's too late and we are in for a ride into the unknown. We'll see what happens. I mean, what else can we do now.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:53 PM   #9
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no one talks about the rain that will occur from this...you think hurricanes are bad now, what happens when all this cool water it thrown in the air throwing off all kinds of wind patterns...

Plus, the solar intake of the planet will undermine the solar power effort...less sun = less solar power
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:37 PM   #10
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Personally I am more pessimistic. I don't think this (or anything else) will change the climate issues. I think it's too late and we are in for a ride into the unknown. We'll see what happens. I mean, what else can we do now.
i hate to agree, but i agree the problems will never be fixed and it will continue to get worse. its sad really
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because those are the same thing...

i'll agree we arent helping things with our pollution, but global warming wasnt directly caused by us.

I don't know.... for every study that says it's not..... you can find two that say it is. In a situation such as this..... wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution and assume that humans may well be affecting the climate. Even if we aren't.... reducing carbon emissions will only improve the quality of life for everyone.
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I don't know.... for every study that says it's not..... you can find two that say it is. In a situation such as this..... wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution and assume that humans may well be affecting the climate. Even if we aren't.... reducing carbon emissions will only improve the quality of life for everyone.
no i agree that we're probably helping thing along with all the pollution. i'm simply saying, our pollution didn't start global warming as hippies would have you think lol. if we magically cleaned the world up, global warming wouldn't go away. its a cyclical thing as well.

btw..is that you in your avatar hehe
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:29 AM   #13
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no i agree that we're probably helping thing along with all the pollution. i'm simply saying, our pollution didn't start global warming as hippies would have you think lol. if we magically cleaned the world up, global warming wouldn't go away. its a cyclical thing as well.

btw..is that you in your avatar hehe
There are indeed cycles of freezing and warming throughout earth's history. But there is an important difference between what's happening now and those natural cycles. Those cycles usually span thousands of years whereas what we have now has started maybe a century ago or less and should climax in a few decades only. This is very man made and an earth fever this fast (compared to earth cycles) is bound to have unknown and potentially devastating effects.
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Some people can not be told they are on fire, even if they see it for themselves.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:11 PM   #15
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I don't know.... for every study that says it's not..... you can find two that say it is. In a situation such as this..... wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution and assume that humans may well be affecting the climate. Even if we aren't.... reducing carbon emissions will only improve the quality of life for everyone.
this is the same reason we have religion, just in case.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:22 AM   #16
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There has been no scientific proof that global warming is "real" or that "we" have any control over it, one way or another.
what are you smoking?
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:50 AM   #17
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what are you smoking?
I'd ask you the same thing if you believe man has caused the hypothesis (it is not a scientifically proven fact) of global warming. It blows my mind how folks can blindly follow this FUD when there are no valid reports from credible scientist supporting the theory. Believe what you wish, as will I.
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what are you smoking?
the truth my friend, as are many of us. the truth is out there. i agree with rischoe. there is no definitive proof of global warming or that we are causing it. the environmentalists can have their "it's the end of the world and we'll all going to die if we don't do something" cake. and they can eat it all by themselves. i believe in little green men more than i do global warming.
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Same thing should apply to dying people right? We should let people die naturally instead of performing surgeries, giving medicine or medical assistance right?

I'm all for natural cycles then.
Not the same thing at all. There is scientific proof that the earth has gone through and continues to go through warming and cooling cycles. There has been no scientific proof that global warming is "real" or that "we" have any control over it, one way or another. Just 30 years ago, all of the "experts" were claiming the earth was cooling and that if we didn't do something to stop it, we'd have a new ice-age soon. Now, these same "experts" are saying the earth is warming...because of us? Please.
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Not the same thing at all. There is scientific proof that the earth has gone through and continues to go through warming and cooling cycles. There has been no scientific proof that global warming is "real" or that "we" have any control over it, one way or another. Just 30 years ago, all of the "experts" were claiming the earth was cooling and that if we didn't do something to stop it, we'd have a new ice-age soon. Now, these same "experts" are saying the earth is warming...because of us? Please.
It is the same thing. Both are natural occurrences, at least you say one of them is. Why intervene in one and not the other?
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