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Old 07-24-2007, 06:21 AM   #1
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One of the major knocks against Blu Ray by HD DVD (Toshiba) was the disks were going to be more expensive due to the fact that you could not produce them with a retro fit of the existing DVD plants. I just checked out Future Shop (Best Buy in Eastern Canada and the States) and I did not notice any difference in the average price of Blu Ray vs HD DVD. Actually I noticed the opposite albiet rarely the price of the same Blu Ray and HD DVD the Blu Ray was 2-3 dollars cheaper. This might be because they did not have a SD-DVD side.

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Old 07-24-2007, 06:25 AM   #2
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One of the major knocks against Blu Ray by HD DVD (Toshiba) was the disks were going to be more expensive due to the fact that you could not produce them with a retro fit of the existing DVD plants. I just checked out Future Shop (Best Buy in Eastern Canada and the States) and I did not notice any difference in the average price of Blu Ray vs HD DVD.
The hd dvd promotional group will say anything to get people to listen. Sure hd dvd's are cheaper to produce but we arent going to tell the consumer about all the hd dvd/dvd combo discs that are relatively higher priced than any blu ray disc

Strange how I even picked up Casino Royal for 24 bucks from wally world while the hd dvd new releases back in march were 30.....once again shhh....

So in the end once again hd dvd group is all talk
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:15 AM   #3
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Warner HD DVDs cost an average of $1 more for movies on both formats due to the Combo disc prices.

Paramount movies cost the same regardless of format.

However, most likely due to the higher price of the Fox catalog titles, BD prices are overall on average higher than HD DVDs.

Though as mentioned discs that are out on both formats cost more on HD DVD on average.
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DVD/HD-DVD combo titles are more expensive than the same title on BD. Dual format titles have the same price.

But what the OP is talking about is the cost of replication. While it may be slightly more expensive for BD in the beginning, it only meant that the studios are getting lesser margins than they would with HD-DVD. For the consumers, we don't see that replication cost difference in the retail price at all. Only when compared to DVD, you can see the premium and that's to be expected.

We are already one year in the "war" and no BD studios have switched sides. In fact, what's been happening is that smaller independent studios either have gone neutral or are supporting BD exclusively. Clearly they see more potential in BD sales than just that extra margin per disc.


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It's more than 2-3 bucks. Best Buy has Shooter on HD DVD for 35 and on BD for 30. And when you think about it, even in hi-def, $35 is a lot for a movie.
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Back in January when I was deciding which format to support, I was doing a lot of research online. I don't remember the site, but there was article about cost of making Blu-ray and HD-DVD disks. This was before the combo disc so I don't know too much about them. They compared HD-15GB vs Blu-25GB and HD-30BG vs Blu50GB. The site said that HD-DVD were cheaper per disc, but Blu-ray was cheaper per GB.

I'm sure everything has change since the article, but I am sure Blu-ray is cheaper to make.
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I'll never pay more than 30 bucks for a movie... unless of course it's a box set or something..
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I'll never pay more than 30 bucks for a movie... unless of course it's a box set or something..
I'll never pay more than $22.00 for a moive, unless it's a box set or TV show.
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I'll never pay more than $22.00 for a moive, unless it's a box set or TV show.
Probably shouldn't jump on board with a relatively new technology until the prices drop then.
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I havent payed over 20 bucks for a BRD yet. I think I have about 29 of them.
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Probably shouldn't jump on board with a relatively new technology until the prices drop then.
I have 55 Blu-rays with 4 on preorder.
Most expensive movies I've bought.
1. Planet Earth about $56
2. Preorder Smallville Season 6 about $51
3. Preorder 300 about $22
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I have 55 Blu-rays with 4 on preorder.
Most expensive movies I've bought.
1. Planet Earth about $56
2. Preorder Smallville Season 6 about $51
3. Preorder 300 about $22
Where did you preorder 300 for $22? And by owning 55 Blu-rays, I'd assume you have some new releases thrown in. Where do you get them for $22 and under?
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:59 PM   #15
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Where did you preorder 300 for $22? And by owning 55 Blu-rays, I'd assume you have some new releases thrown in. Where do you get them for $22 and under?
I order 300 from WB online with a coupon code along with Smallville Season 6. I don't remember to code, but I'll see if I can look it up.

I usually just wait for sales, Buy 2 get 1 free, 50% off, ebay, stuff like that.

I have a Visa credit card with Amazon reward program so I get a $25 gift card once in a while. I've order Enemy of the State and Final Fantasy for 40.90 -$25. I only paid 15.90 for two Blu-rays not a deal

New movies like Shooter, I'll wait for the price will drop or a sale will come. I'm not in a rush to buy movies. I'll just buy when I find a good deal.

Last time I check my average cost for my 55 Blu-rays is about $14.70 including Planet Earth. This also includes any taxes and shipping charges I've paid for.
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I order 300 from WB online with a coupon code along with Smallville Season 6. I don't remember to code, but I'll see if I can look it up.

I usually just wait for sales, Buy 2 get 1 free, 50% off, ebay, stuff like that.

I have a Visa credit card with Amazon reward program so I get a $25 gift card once in a while. I've order Enemy of the State and Final Fantasy for 40.90 -$25. I only paid 15.90 for two Blu-rays not a deal

New movies like Shooter, I'll wait for the price will drop or a sale will come. I'm not in a rush to buy movies. I'll just buy when I find a good deal.

Last time I check my average cost for my 55 Blu-rays is about $14.70 including Planet Earth. This also includes any taxes and shipping charges I've paid for.
Not too shabby

I've got a place nearby that sells the "new" catalog titles for $19.99 and the new releases from $22-25. I'll pay up to $26 for a movie I really want, no reason to pay anymore than that, but I realize with the new technology comes the burden on the high price tags. Was like that with vhs, dvd, and now blu-ray. Just have to weather the storm and eventually the prices will fall in line.
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