Westworld: Season One 4K UHD (2016)

[GasmaskAvenger]

If encoded right, 1080i can look great. That said, low bitrates can make anything look soft anyway.

[Lax1085]

does this stream on VUDU with digital code?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Brandon K

Ew, that sucks. Absolutely no good reason for it. The only thing worse than no extras is 1080i content. Honestly I'd rather have no extras (and give that space to additional bitrate on the episodes) instead of 1080i extras.

U wot

Dude, it's not 1997 any more. The 1080i60 will simply be deinterlaced by the player and output as 1080p60 with no ill effects, assuming a certain level of competence at both the mastering and playback level. I've got several bits of 25fps UK TV content on Blu which are basically encoded as 1080i50 PsF with a clean split of each frame into two fields (native 1080p25/30/50/60 not being part of the Blu-ray encoding spec) and when it's recombined during playback it's flawless.

[AdubW1982]

Does the 4k release contain the show on 4k as well as Blu-ray? Or is it only on 4k?

[nonametofame]

Originally Posted by AdubW1982

Does the 4k release contain the show on 4k as well as Blu-ray? Or is it only on 4k?

The U.S release has both. 3 discs for 4k, and 3 discs for standard BD

[TOO_FUTURE]

Originally Posted by AdubW1982

Does the 4k release contain the show on 4k as well as Blu-ray? Or is it only on 4k?

Both the 4K and Blu-Ray are included as well as digital code

[zallapo]

Am I the only one who prefers the Blu-rays over the 4K? Saturation levels are quite low on the 4K, and it's alot darker. Hmmm, am conflicted.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by Lax1085

does this stream on VUDU with digital code?

it does, but, vudu only has SD & HDX listed, not UHD.

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by zallapo

Am I the only one who prefers the Blu-rays over the 4K? Saturation levels are quite low on the 4K, and it's alot darker. Hmmm, am conflicted.

I would assume that you are.

Contrast and the richness, density, and texture of the colors are much better on the UHD. There's dimensionality on the UHD that just doesn't exist on the regular blu rays. There's also a lot more detail, too.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by zallapo

Am I the only one who prefers the Blu-rays over the 4K? Saturation levels are quite low on the 4K, and it's alot darker. Hmmm, am conflicted.

Something's screwy. For a 2k upconvert it looks quite filmic to me.

[the_sextein]

RP over at AVS has his review up if anyone is interested.
http://www.avsforum.com/westworld-se...tra-hd-review/

[zallapo]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

I would assume that you are.

Contrast and the richness, density, and texture of the colors are much better on the UHD. There's dimensionality on the UHD that just doesn't exist on the regular blu rays. There's also a lot more detail, too.

I watched some really high bitrate 1080p rips a few times when it was released so my eyes seem to know this show back to front. I agree there's more shadow detail and dimensionality. Sharpness are about the same and doesn't add more detail (to my eyes) in that regard.

Colours I wouldn't say are better, just different. Take the first scene of episode 1 for example of Delores sitting in the chair. The beautiful blue hues on the floor are almost gone and desaturated. I'll keep comparing the two but for me, the blu-ray is a much closer representation to what I saw when I watched the show.

Anyhoo, just my experience so far.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by formula_nebula

I was just at WM about an hour ago. They had none in sight. Not even for the standard blu-ray set. They have the pricing on the shelf for both though. So either they are completely sold out, or haven't gotten them in yet. I'm inclined to think the later though, just because my local WM is a little slow at times with releases.

Knowing Walmart, they probably still have em in boxes in the back. Did you ask if they had em? (Don't blame you if you didn't, the employees can be clueless af)

[formula_nebula]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Knowing Walmart, they probably still have em in boxes in the back. Did you ask if they had em? (Don't blame you if you didn't, the employees can be clueless af)

No I didn't ask. I don't have the money until payday this Friday. I'll be checking back then. If this WM doesn't have it then, then i'll check another one close by, that has a bigger UHD selection.

[Fakejb]

Originally Posted by FilmBufffff

Well I'm tossing this p.o.s. tin. It has sharp edges on the inside spine that tear up the plastic on the spine of the elite case's plastic sleeve, it has a weird film all over it that won't come off and it's scratched to high hell.

i normally dont care bout packaging but the tin straight sucks. wish theyd done a steelbook.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

I stand corrected. Thanks, G. Though, it sounds like it can benefit from 12 bit source material.

Stacey Spears said it's one of the few HDR sets out there that really does provide a genuine 10-bit output so that combined with the more refined downsampling from 12-bit should look even tastier. Chance would be a fine thing but there's no use moaning about it, Sony will only release the DV update when they're good and ready and even then I reckon there'll be a few bugs for us end users to work out.

My OPPO stands at the ready, I had a momentary thrill the other day when I played a few LG DV demo clips and the player picked them up as Dolby Vision 12-bit, but naturally output them as HDR10 10-bit. Looked gorgeous nonetheless.

Originally Posted by the_sextein

I may be incorrect but DV is currently limited to 12 bit correct? I am just trying comprehend what DV will bring to the table if Sony gets around to a firmware upgrade. Could the 14 bit processing benefit a Z9D user since the backlight is not capable of 4000 nits? I know that true 12 bit color is possible on a 10 bit display.

See above. The TV's internals operate at 14-bit to give it enough overhead to apply its processing (like the Smooth Gradation feature, previously unusable on 4K content on a Sony TV until the X1E processor range) to the incoming 4K signals. But the tone mapping of highlights is fairly limited (~1500 nits) if you want to keep the set on the correct luminance curve for ST 2084 content, the Sony may well dynamically adjust the brightness values of the content (it ignores such static mastering metadata) but not the tone mapping outright and that's where DV's ace in the hole comes into play. HDR looks AMAZING on this TV but I'd be lying if I thought it was perfectly optimised for it and DV's content-led mapping approach (which also takes into account the TV's technological quirks thanks to the Dolby 'golden reference' that's used for every TV type) could make the Zed the ****ing king of HDR TVs.

[the_sextein]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Stacey Spears said it's one of the few HDR sets out there that really does provide a genuine 10-bit output so that combined with the more refined downsampling from 12-bit should look even tastier. Chance would be a fine thing but there's no use moaning about it, Sony will only release the DV update when they're good and ready and even then I reckon there'll be a few bugs for us end users to work out.

My OPPO stands at the ready, I had a momentary thrill the other day when I played a few LG DV demo clips and the player picked them up as Dolby Vision 12-bit, but naturally output them as HDR10. Looked gorgeous nonetheless.

I hope I am not coming off as a complainer. I am very satisfied with the way Westworld looks on my display currently. I simply voiced my disappointment that critics with DV enabled gear have commented on the current implementation of DV on the titles I own as not being very noticeable differences. I am all for the improvement of display technology whenever possible.

[the_sextein]

It's no problem. I am aware that DV is capable of 12 bit color and common sense tells me that 12 bit is more accurate than 10 bit. However the sites I have been visiting are High Def Digest, AVS forum and this site. I have never claimed to be a scientist, The cabin in the woods got similar DV comments from all three sources and it looks like WestWorld might as well(Blu-ray has not weighed in on it yet.)

Some titles don't benefit from HDR as much as others and it looks like the differences DV makes on the two titles mentioned have small noticeable differences to the critical reviews I have read. I don't doubt DV's abilities to improve color accuracy and I have no reason to troll or side with one side or the other. I am hoping to see reviews that state DV makes a huge difference because one day I too will be utilizing it and hope for the best. Either way, thanks for the sources you posted, I will check them out.

EDIT:
TheSweetieMan could you give me your impressions of DV on Westworld vs HDR10? Do you disagree with with Ralph? He said he noticed a difference and if he had to choose one he would go with DV but he stated that the difference is very minor and weather it's better or not was subjective. I am curious on your opinion since you are a real user with nothing to gain or lose. Also what panel are you using currently?

[Fakejb]

it feels so odd to watch this without any HBO branding in the menu or pre opening.


i don't like it

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Fakejb

it feels so odd to watch this without any HBO branding in the menu or pre opening.


i don't like it

The HBO opening is annoying. It's been the same thing for years.