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Old 12-24-2008, 06:43 AM   #1
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"Disney Pulls Out of Third Narnia Film"

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51523

I guess this blows off our guarantee for a quality blu-ray...?
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Old 12-24-2008, 06:47 AM   #2
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Damn that blows...
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:51 AM   #3
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****s up the Dawn. Theres no way its good
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:09 AM   #4
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I'm hoping for a miracle.

This makes me mad at Disney. I thought at least oncethey could support a franchise that wasn't making them rich.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:40 PM   #6
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"Disney Pulls Out of Third Narnia Film"

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51523

I guess this blows off our guarantee for a quality blu-ray...?
Good, now Narnia won't get pregnant.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:40 PM   #7
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I'm sure I sound like a broken record at this point, but the problem with these films is that they are trying too hard to be LOTR. Disney had, in its hands, LOTR under Miramax, and they let it go because it cost too much. Looking back, it was a horrible, horrible mistake.

So once the first LOTR film smashed records to pieces, they quickly moved on the Narnia rights and had no problem spending whatever it cost to make the movies - thinking that they would see the same success as LOTR. No so much.

So here we are today, with The Hobbit getting anything and everything they want while the Narnia movies are fighting to even get made. And yes, I'll say it, Hollywood is just too damn repetative for their own good. They think that making the same film over and over is a good idea just because the first one was succesful. Let this be lesson to them, that I'm sure they'll forget soon enough.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:45 PM   #8
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I guess this means no box set once all the films are complete...
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:49 PM   #9
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Honestly, this is a foolish move by Disney. They should have at least tried again with Dawn Treader. There were specific reasons why Prince Caspian didn't do as well as it did compared to the previous film and if they were to go back to how they went about releasing the first one they may strike gold again.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:56 PM   #10
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I love how $300+ million worldwide isn't enough to go forward with the project... Especially considering they opened in the summer when this is clearly a fall/winter movie, and they went up directly against Iron Man and Indy IV, with TDK on the horizon. I think they could still make a lot of money of the series, but too bad for them.

Not that I liked these films. The books aren't great to begin with, and the films in my opinion have a made-for-TV look to them (subpar CGI, terrible acting, lousy cinematography). I just know it's disappointing for the fans.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:00 PM   #11
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This may be a good thing for the franchise. Disney which normally are marketing gurus really kinda screwed the pooch with Caspian (after doing a great job on Lion). However, I don't have much faith in FOX either.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:00 PM   #12
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I like "The Lion The Witch & the Wardrobe" I read the book as a kid Who cares what Disney does... (I'm ticked off)
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Hopefully they will be grittier now.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:08 PM   #14
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Dang, and I loved the first two - I didnt know that about them and the LOTR series, Josh - surprising indeed! I also agree that Hollywood is becoming a bit too repetitive - who would've thought?
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This may be a good thing for the franchise. Disney which normally are marketing gurus really kinda screwed the pooch with Caspian (after doing a great job on Lion). However, I don't have much faith in FOX either.
Yeah, Fox has butchered too many films for me to have any faith in them handling Dawn Treader with care. I'd hope for a company like Columbia (Sony) or possibly Universal to handle it the way it should be handled.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:23 PM   #16
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Fox is the antichrist, good luck with that.
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I love how $300+ million worldwide isn't enough to go forward with the project... Especially considering they opened in the summer when this is clearly a fall/winter movie, and they went up directly against Iron Man and Indy IV, with TDK on the horizon. I think they could still make a lot of money of the series, but too bad for them.
I read once that studios only see about half of the box office take. Many times they need home video sales and licensing rights to see profit on films.

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Dang, and I loved the first two - I didnt know that about them and the LOTR series, Josh - surprising indeed! I also agree that Hollywood is becoming a bit too repetitive - who would've thought?
Yeah, Wikipedia does a much better job at capturing the entire story, but basically once Peter Jackson decided to take on the project, he got Miramax finance it at $75M for two films. Once pre-production started, they went back to Miramax and said they needed $150M to do the two films. Miramax responded that, in order to stay on budget, they would go to one two hour film, combine a lot of the story lines and drop a lot more. Peter said no and pulled out.

He shopped it around, and when he went to New Line and they responded "Why is this two movies? The book was released in three parts!" He knew he was home and they went forward with production.
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I read once that studios only see about half of the box office take. Many times they need home video sales and licensing rights to see profit on films.
It's more like 2.5 to 2.7 times the production budget (I've read up on it).

Caspian will turn a profit eventually, it's just the drop between the two movies that probably spooked Disney.

Caspian:
Production Budget: $200 million
WW Gross: $419.5 million
Video (to date): $55 million
Comes out to 2.37X as of now. It'll make a profit but compare it to Narnia:

Lion, Witch, Wardrobe:
Production Budget: $180 million
WW Gross: $748.8 million
Video: $353.5 million
Comes out to an amazing 6.1X

The trend worries them
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I love how $300+ million worldwide isn't enough to go forward with the project... Especially considering they opened in the summer when this is clearly a fall/winter movie, and they went up directly against Iron Man and Indy IV, with TDK on the horizon. I think they could still make a lot of money of the series, but too bad for them.

Not that I liked these films. The books aren't great to begin with, and the films in my opinion have a made-for-TV look to them (subpar CGI, terrible acting, lousy cinematography). I just know it's disappointing for the fans.

I don't know what movies you saw, but the CGI was hailed by most top critics as was the acting.
As for Narnia being similar to LOTR, that makes sense the authors were both really good friends. I hope Dawn Tredder gets made and whatever studio handles the movie, places the movie in the winter.
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He shopped it around, and when he went to New Line and they responded "Why is this two movies? The book was released in three parts!" He knew he was home and they went forward with production.
...and then had to sue them because they were ripping him off.....
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