3D/2D Displays that support 3D & 2D & 24p at multiplies of the original frame rate

[HDTV1080P]

Here is the Home Theater review link that mentions the HDMI 1.2 on the Sony
http://www.hometheatermag.com/discplayers/707sonybdp300/


Interesting this Sony BDP-S300 only has HDMI 1.2 and not HDMI 1.3? Earlier reports said it was HDMI 1.3. They must have changed the specs before releasing the player at a lower price. The PS3 is looking more attractive every day.

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“According to Sony the player will pass x.v.Color from its HDMI 1.2 output, but will not automatically switch an x.v.Color-compatible display to the correct color space. You will have to do this manually; auto-switching apparently requires HDMI 1.3. I lacked both x.v.Color source material and an x.v.Color display, so did not test this feature (at present x.v.Color source material is limited to discs recorded on a few camcorders). “

[desmond]

i thought that sony was going to release 24fps bravias.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by desmond

i thought that sony was going to release 24fps bravias.

Just as 1080P/60 inputs can be found on almost all current 1080P displays currently on the market it appears that 1080P/24 input support will also become a standard feature within 2 years. The problem is many manufactories have decided to try and make displays as cheap as possible for the mainstream consumer and many of the new displays coming out will convert 1080P/24 material to 60HZ only. Only the high-end displays will refresh 1080P/24 material at multiplies of the original frame (48HZ, 72HZ, 96HZ, and possible some 120HZ displays in the future. All current 120HZ displays are not 1080P/24 compatible and only work with 60HZ signals.)
Once the new Sony’s receive a professional review from a publication like Perfect Vision or Widescreen Review they maybe added to the list. It is not clear what refresh rate the new Sony’s will use. So far I have not seen a 60HZ display able to reduce judder like a 48HZ, 72HZ, and 96HZ display can do.

[POTC123]

sony is releasing 2 tvs in October, KDS-Z60XBR5 and KDS-Z70XBR5, this years SXRD XBR systems. They can support 1080p/24 through HDMI 1.3. Also they have MOtionflow, what Sony calls there 120Mz Output. IMO it is the premiere TV on the market. Retail 4999.99 and 5999.9 a piece

[Coltboy]

lol So my Sony XBR 2 LCD is going to be junk i paid $3500 for it

[POTC123]

Originally Posted by Coltboy

lol So my Sony XBR 2 LCD is going to be junk i paid $3500 for it

NO from what i hear the pic quality on the XBR2's are rival to none, of cours ewhen the new model comes out in Oct it wont be top of the line, but it will still be phenom, although it wont have HDMI 1.3 and 120HZ, or 1080p/24

[BStecke]

Since the 1.9 update with the 24hz option turned to "on", the info bar on my Samsung now says it's displaying 1920x1080p@24hz. I guess we can add it to the list! HL-S6187W.

[Electric_Haggis]

Originally Posted by POTC123

NO from what i hear the pic quality on the XBR2's are rival to none, of cours ewhen the new model comes out in Oct it wont be top of the line, but it will still be phenom, although it wont have HDMI 1.3 and 120HZ, or 1080p/24

Well let's hope Sony can do something about those so-called "black levels", as well as the motion-smearing.

We have a 40 inch XBR2 as a client monitor in a post-production suite. I'd say they're currently the best LCD on the market. Straight out of the box, they look pretty terrible of course. But once you callibrate them they're surprisingly accurate.......EXCEPT for the grey LCD-blacks and motion-smearing, which is consistantly annoying if you know how the image is supposed to look!!

Both these problems are hallmarks of LCD technology, and I fear they'll NEVER completely go away - even with 120Hz. So I doubt we'll ever get another LCD again.

Looks like our next client monitor will definitely be a 1080p plasma like this one. No question about it...

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...00000000005702

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-ente...nce-248218.php

http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/...ch=TH-42PZ700U

[DSET]

my samsung 5065 supports this right?

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by BStecke

Since the 1.9 update with the 24hz option turned to "on", the info bar on my Samsung now says it's displaying 1920x1080p@24hz. I guess we can add it to the list! HL-S6187W.

Yes if the info button says it is receiving 24HZ then your Samsung has a 1080P/24 input. The Samsung is refreshing the 24HZ at 60HZ since it is using a 3:2 pull down process. Only displays that have a 1080P/24 input and eliminate the 3:2 pull down process are on this list. Hopefully in the future Samsung will make some displays that refresh at multiplies of the original frame to reduce judder (48HZ, 72HZ, 96HZ, 120HZ).
You might get a better picture if you turn off the 1080P/24 feature on the PS3 and allow the PS3 to do the 3:2 pull down process to convert to 60HZ. Or perhaps the Samsung DLP you own might do a better job then the PS3 when converting to 60HZ. It all depends on if the BLU-RAY player or the display does a better job of converting to 60HZ.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by DSET

my samsung 5065 supports this right?

Hit the info button on the display while using a BLU-RAY player set to 1080P/24 to see if it says 24HZ then you will know your 60HZ display accepts a 1080P/24 signal.

[HDTV1080P]

It looks like the Pioneer BLU-RAY player might soon be the second best BLU-RAY player for picture quality. The Denon DVD-3800BDCI Blu-Ray player has been added to the master list and should be on the market some time in late 2007. The Denon is twice as expensive as the Pioneer since the Denon list price is $2,000. One will have to wait for an professional review to see if the Denon becomes the new official best BLU-RAY player for best picture quality. The Realta HQV video chip is a nice feature with PIP support. For $2,000 one would think this player would also have a Ethernet port for BD-LIVE but the Denon player lacks a Ethernet jack. Still for someone that owns a high end ceiling mounted front projector for $5,000+ this would be an ideal BLU-RAY player to own.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Denon/Hardware/Denon_Announces_Flagship_DVD-3800BDCI_Blu-ray_Player/801

[doctorD]

I was wondering if anyone knows if the Samsung LN-T5265F will display in 1080P/24? I did a search in the forums but did not find anything.

Also, has anyone who has this display and a PS3 noticed any difference with the 1.9 upgrade? I am highly interested in this tv and was wondering how the new upgrade feature works on it.

Thanks in advance for your help!

[AlaskaDon]

Originally Posted by Electric_Haggis

Can anyone confirm that these front projectors fully support 24p? I suspect they do...
* Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080
* Panasonic PT-AX100U
* BenQ W10000
* BenQ W9000
* Optoma HD80

Happily I can confirm that the Optoma HD80 does. I just bought one tonight. It was the first one that has made it's way to the Best Buy in Anchorage, and they only got the one unit. The guys in Magnolia couldn't even tell me anything about it. We ended up having to look up the details over on projectorpoint.com before I purchased it.

All I've had time to do so far is look over the manual, and I have to confess, I'm a total noob when it comes to projectors like this. I'm sure I'll be picking you guys brains over the next couple weeks as I try to get this thing set up

[Electric_Haggis]

Originally Posted by AlaskaDon

Happily I can confirm that the Optoma HD80 does. I just bought one tonight. It was the first one that has made it's way to the Best Buy in Anchorage, and they only got the one unit. The guys in Magnolia couldn't even tell me anything about it. We ended up having to look up the details over on projectorpoint.com before I purchased it.

All I've had time to do so far is look over the manual, and I have to confess, I'm a total noob when it comes to projectors like this. I'm sure I'll be picking you guys brains over the next couple weeks as I try to get this thing set up

Congratulations!
This looks to be the standout projector of the year.
After auditioning the JVC DLA-RS1 and being quite disappointed, I've decided DLPs are the only way to go if you want the most CRT-like, film-like quality.
Let us know what you think.....

You may want to subscribe or contribute to this thread I started on AVSForum...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post11120492

[HDTV1080P]

Samsung Unveils Duo HD Deck BD-UP5000 at a list price of $1,049. The BD-P1400 will be $549 and the BD-P2400 will be $649. List prices and features subject to change before launch.
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6462973.html

Here is more info on the Denon BLU-RAY player that will use HDMI 1.3A
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6462757.html

[HDTV1080P]

1080P/24 options for PS3 with firmware 1.9

1. 1080P/24 off mode: In this mode the PS3 will always output at 60HZ only including 1080P/24 source material. Most 1080P displays only accept a 1080P signal at 60HZ.
2. 1080P/24 on mode: In this mode if the BLU-RAY disc is 24HZ the PS3 100% of the time well output a 1080P signal at 24HZ. Almost 100% of all BLU-RAY movie discs are encoded at 1080P/24. If you are playing a BLU-RAY videogame that was encoded at 60HZ or playing any DVD then the PS3 will always output 60HZ. If your display does not support 1080P/24 input then no signal will be detected by the display when playing 24HZ BLU-RAY movies.
3. 1080P/24 automatic mode: In this mode the PS3 will try to communicate with the display at 1080P/24 when playing 24HZ source material. If this auto detection process does not detect a 1080P/24 capable display it will switch to 1080P/60 mode. This auto detection feature is not compatible with some displays.


The difference between a 1080P/60 display and a display that also accepts 1080P/24 signals is a non issue if your display only refreshes at 60HZ. To take advantage of 1080P/24 signals one needs to own a display that refreshes at multiplies of the original frame (48HZ, 72HZ, 96HZ, 120HZ, etc). To verify what type of signal ones display is receiving most displays have an info button or similar named button that will say 1920 X 1080 @ 24HZ if you are receiving a 24HZ signal. Then the display will either convert the 24HZ to 60HZ or multiplies of the original frame. 70MM and 35mm film in the theater is at 24fps and are flashed at 48fps or 72fps to reduce judder. 24 FPS material needs to be converted to a higher frame rates to avoid the flicker. No one could stand watching stuff at 24fps.

[Electric_Haggis]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

It looks like the Pioneer BLU-RAY player might soon be the second best BLU-RAY player for picture quality. The Denon DVD-3800BDCI Blu-Ray player has been added to the master list and should be on the market some time in late 2007. The Denon is twice as expensive as the Pioneer since the Denon list price is $2,000. One will have to wait for an professional review to see if the Denon becomes the new official best BLU-RAY player for best picture quality. The Realta HQV video chip is a nice feature with PIP support. For $2,000 one would think this player would also have a Ethernet port for BD-LIVE but the Denon player lacks a Ethernet jack. Still for someone that owns a high end ceiling mounted front projector for $5,000+ this would be an ideal BLU-RAY player to own.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Denon/Hardware/Denon_Announces_Flagship_DVD-3800BDCI_Blu-ray_Player/801

$2K for a unit with no ethernet port and (long-awaited) BD-Live capability that puts it on a par with a.... $199 HD-DVD player!! Yippee! 24p and HQV processing are hardly ultra-top-end features either nowadays, except in the land of Denon I guess.

You'd definitely be carefully A-B-comparing the playback quality against other players to make damn sure there's any difference. 200 bucks says there'd be zero quality improvement with Blu-ray playback...

[AquaticGoat]

Originally Posted by Banjo

I own this model, it has 1080p/24/60 support.

That looks like a beauty. How is the fan noise?

[HDTV1080P]

This fall or winter 2007 Denon plans on releasing two BLU-RAY players with 1080P/24 support. The 1080P/24 list has been updated. The DVD-3800BDCI mention earlier will list for $1,999 and the Denon DVD-2500BTCI that lacks internal advanced audio decoding will have a list price of $1,199.

For more details click on the following link

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6462757.html