Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

What titles has Disney licensed to TT?


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None. But they license to Kino and Criterion.

It may take most of 2018 for this deal to close. We will not know the full effect of this takeover for at least 2 years. The AT&T takeover of Time Warner has been dragging along for a year, with no end in sight.

I don't know what will happen as much as anyone else. But I do not think the the agreement Fox made with Twilight Time is high on Disney's agenda to dismantle.

[bdgking]

Twilight time states that Inherit the Wind is now sold out !
Also about 95 copies of Heaven & Earth remain .

I know their are blu ray versions out their for the ten commandments however I still would like to see twilight time offer that title myself .

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by Brad1963

The AT&T takeover of Time Warner has been dragging along for a year, with no end in sight.

Because of the litigation.

Especially now that we know the President spoke with Rupert before the Disney/Fox deal was announced to make sure Fox News wasn't being sold, mentioning these two deals in the same breath with regards to how long they may take to close intimates a false equivalency. I seriously doubt the DOJ is going to sue to stop the Disney acquisition given that, unlike the AT&T/Time Warner transaction, it appears Rupert has the President's blessing.

[BagheeraMcGee]

Originally Posted by bdgking

Twilight time states that Inherit the Wind is now sold out !
Also about 95 copies of Heaven & Earth remain .

I know their are blu ray versions out their for the ten commandments however I still would like to see twilight time offer that title myself .

(1) It's a Paramount title.
(2) Why?

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

What titles has Disney licensed to TT?

None yet to Twilight Time. And I can't at the moment think of a mainstream Walt Disney Productions title they've licensed to anyone for BD -- I'm sure someone else will point out some -- but they've licensed ABC Films and Touchstone titles to Kino Lorber Studio Classics and (a while back) to Echo Bridge. I would expect that they'd be treating the Fox catalogue more akin to the ABC and Touchstone catalogs than the WDP catalog.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by oildude

Samuel Fuller, Marilyn Monroe, and Richard Widmark FTW!!

With respect to Marilyn, do we dare hope that the other Fox Monroes are coming down the road? Most especially Monkey Business?

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by jayembee

None yet to Twilight Time. And I can't at the moment think of a mainstream Walt Disney Productions title they've licensed to anyone for BD -- I'm sure someone else will point out some -- but they've licensed ABC Films and Touchstone titles to Kino Lorber Studio Classics and (a while back) to Echo Bridge. I would expect that they'd be treating the Fox catalogue more akin to the ABC and Touchstone catalogs than the WDP catalog.

This is likely not your intended meaning, but I agree with ". . . treating the Fox catalog more akin to . .. ABC and Touchstone . . ." Specifically, I think they will license to entities Disney already has relationships with than maintain a relationship (with TT) that they didn't initiate. For whatever reasons, Disney home vid managers have already made their preferences of which boutiques they want as licensees clear.

And it seems to me we've all seen examples wherein it's almost inherent in this this kind of m & a that pre-existing relationships are axed. It doesn't have to be "high on [the] agenda." It happens in due course; it's the nature of attrition.

Ironically, I've received word from Twilight Time: They have (already) ended their relationship with MGM. The December 2017 releases will be their last MGM titles.

[captveg]

Is the other person who edits the Twilight Time wikipedia page here?

I wanted to reach out to them because I keep having to erase the My Cousin Rachel listing they keep adding. Because it was a DVD release it is listed at the top of the list for both DVD and BD, which is why it doesn't need to be listed again with the other three new January 2018 titles.

Thanks!

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

Ironically, I've received word from Twilight Time: They have (already) ended their relationship with MGM. The December 2017 releases will be their last MGM titles.

They'd already mentioned that a little while back. And it's pretty obvious from the Jan-to-Mar announcements, each of which is restricted to two Fox titles and two Columbia/TriStar titles. Anyway, I guess that means that Man of La Mancha is off the schedule.

As far as the rest of your reply to me, yes, it's possible that they will cancel all preceding licensing contracts, but we don't know for sure. What I really should have said is that if they continue the Fox contracts with TT, Kino, Criterion, and whoever else, they'll probably treat the catalogue the same as the subsidiary catalogs they already own rather than the mainstream WDP catalog.

[easydreamer]

Originally Posted by jayembee

They'd already mentioned that a little while back. And it's pretty obvious from the Jan-to-Mar announcements, each of which is restricted to two Fox titles and two Columbia/TriStar titles. Anyway, I guess that means that Man of La Mancha is off the schedule.

Man of La Mancha has already been out via Shout, though.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Man-o...lu-ray/133679/

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by jayembee

They'd already mentioned that a little while back.

I didn't see that.

Originally Posted by jayembee

As far as the rest of your reply to me, yes, it's possible that they will cancel all preceding licensing contracts, but we don't know for sure. What I really should have said is that if they continue the Fox contracts with TT, Kino, Criterion, and whoever else, they'll probably treat the catalogue the same as the subsidiary catalogs they already own rather than the mainstream WDP catalog.

I quoted your remarks but the balance of my reply (after the first paragraph) was largely to a prior respondent (thus the "high on [the] agenda" quote which is not something you said).

We're/you're kinda muddying the waters, at least as far as my point to a different member was/is concerned, with bringing up the WDP catalog. WDP titles are so strongly associated with the Disney brand that it's silly IMO to even bring up their being licensed.

My point is largely that the historic absence of any licensure to TT by Disney is IMO a strong indication that Disney is not somehow going to permit license of Fox titles to TT once Disney likely closes the Mouse-Rupert deal just because the Fox execs about to get fired in that deal entered a licensing agreement a few years ago.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by easydreamer

Man of La Mancha has already been out via Shout, though.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Man-o...lu-ray/133679/

Ah, I did not see that announcement. I thought I'd heard a while back that TT was going to be doing it.

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Ah, it was this post:

[klauswhereareyou]

March looks like the best release month Twilight Time has had in years.

[AsOldAsRhyme]

I’ve never heard of TT before. Looks like a useful way to find some rare titles I’m interested in. I guess I’ll have to find 9 to 5, The Prime Of Miss Jean Brodie, and Philadelphia secondhand, though, if they’re OOP.

[Rory]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

Ironically, I've received word from Twilight Time: They have (already) ended their relationship with MGM. The December 2017 releases will be their last MGM titles.

Good! The transfer MGM provided for HOUR OF THE GUN is quite mediocre. The sales vs licensing fees must be terrible.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by AsOldAsRhyme

I’ve never heard of TT before. Looks like a useful way to find some rare titles I’m interested in. I guess I’ll have to find 9 to 5, The Prime Of Miss Jean Brodie, and Philadelphia secondhand, though, if they’re OOP.

The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is still available.

[AsOldAsRhyme]

Originally Posted by captveg

The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is still available.

Shouldn’t there be an “add to cart” option on the film’s TT page if it’s still available?

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by AsOldAsRhyme

Shouldn’t there be an “add to cart” option on the film’s TT page if it’s still available?

That title is only available at Screen Archives:

http://www.screenarchives.com/

I picked up that particular title during the last sale for $9.95. If you are willing to wait until the next sale, you can probably get it for the same price.

[AsOldAsRhyme]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

That title is only available at Screen Archives:

http://www.screenarchives.com/

I picked up that particular title during the last sale for $9.95. If you are willing to wait until the next sale, you can probably get it for the same price.

Ooh, thank you! I’ll definitely keep an eye out for the sale.

[mja345]

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