Bram Stoker's Dracula 4K UHD (1992) (25th Anniversary Edition)

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Incidentally, I am legally blind in one eye (yes, that's me in my avatar. Feel free to call me Sauron) and I could see a noticeable uptick on the UHD compared to the already lovely BD. The UHD is an upgrade. No need to argue about it.

I have 20/15 in both eyes, and I didn't notice an uptick. And the fact that we have different experiences indicates that a debate is justified, and possibly even beneficial. It only turns crappy when someone (not you, Sauron ) can't handle civil disagreement and would rather fight about it.

btw: I directly asked you about the bright dark scenes, and you've ignored the inquiry. This seems quite fishy

[LoSouL]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

If you're not a tribal fanboy, address the bright dark scenes. If you refuse to address the bright dark scenes, you are proving that you are suffering from confirmation bias.

I'll let you answer this:

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

I really don't believe

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by LoSouL

I'll let you answer this:

You should try to develop the courage & integrity to answer for yourself.

[LoSouL]

I also like this spin on it.

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

If you're not a heretic, rebuke satan. If you refuse to rebuke satan, you are proving that you are suffering from demonic possession.

[bradnoyes]

Regarding the "light dark" scenes, I have no recollection of being bothered by anything that fits that description. My TV's settings are calibrated to the darker end of the spectrum which might combat any unnatural brightness that might be there. Wasn't an issue for me. I'll look out for it next time I watch it but I can't imagine it will eclipse the myriad other ways that the UHD beat out the BD.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

This is one of my favorite UHDs, but the wow-factor was definitely dampened a bit by having so recently seen the excellent Supreme Cinema edition. I still prefer the UHD for the improved PQ and wonderful Atmos track, but the Supreme BD is no slouch.

So I was right:
UHD>Supreme Cinema edition

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[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Do you actually notice a difference in PQ tho, or are you just convincing yourself that you do? Capsaholic has comparison screenshots and the difference is sooooooooo slight that I really don't believe a person could tell the difference unless they were doing a direct side-by-side comparison. If someone were to view them both independently without knowing which one they were viewing, the only way one would be able to tell the difference is if it was during one of those first scenes, and the winner would be the Supreme.

One is 1080p the other is 2160p + HDR...Nuff said

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[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

One is 1080p the other is 2160p + HDR...Nuff said

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For the second time: There are numerous blu-rays that have multiple releases in which the one with a lower bitrate has better PQ. How do you explain this in your worldview of on-paper specs being the definitive metric?

[shield80]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

One is 1080p the other is 2160p + HDR...Nuff said

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Many movies that are actually better in 1080p then HDR, but whatever.

[bluescholar]

^are you guys getting a divorce?

[ROSS.T.G.]

I don’t know about many. Of the 100 titles I own I can only think of one where the BD is better and that’s the Expendables 3 and only because they ****ed up the HDR and blacks are literally grey. I’ve heard Oblivion’s BD is better but haven’t watched the UHD yet.

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

I'm not the type of person to obsessively compare UHD to BD but I was noticing more details in the UHD, for sure. The sets in this movie are incredible and for much of my viewing on the UHD I was just appreciating all sorts of little details I'd never seen before. Granted, I had a similar experience with the Supreme BD but it was even more enhanced on the UHD. Special effects shots also seemed more vivid to me.

It's right up there with the Blade Runner in terms of UHDs that showed off detail I never knew was there.

This may take the cake for the most under-appreciated UHD disc of 2017.

Not only is there a noticeable difference in detail from the standard BD--but in typical Sony fashion, the video bitrate is consistently higher. There's great foreground and background separation. Colors are natural, but also lush (even in dark scenes). Textures on costumes, props, and dresses, really feel genuinely lifelike, but not artificially so.

There's so much to love about this release.

The fact that BrassTax put this on his top-10 Worst UHD releases of 2017 list, further reminded me of how utterly moronic that guy and his videos are.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

This may take the cake for the most under-appreciated UHD disc of 2017.

Not only is there a noticeable difference in detail from the standard BD--but in typical Sony fashion, the video bitrate is consistently higher. There's great foreground and background separation. Colors are natural, but also lush (even in dark scenes). Textures on costumes, props, and dresses, really feel genuinely lifelike, but not artificially so.

There's so much to love about this release.

The fact that BrassTax put this on his top-10 Worst UHD releases of 2017 list, further reminded me of how utterly moronic that guy and his videos are.

Yup, great release and upgrade. It shows how good Sony is at what they do when they take a reference BD and and make it that much better.

If you say his name 3 times Tax will appear.

[shield80]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

I don’t know about many. Of the 100 titles I own I can only think of one where the BD is better and that’s the Expendables 3 and only because they ****ed up the HDR and blacks are literally grey. I’ve heard Oblivion’s BD is better but haven’t watched the UHD yet.

here is some where either the BD is better or the same

Bram Stocker Dracula, The 4K is a little sharper than the Blu Ray


teenage mutant ninja turtles out of the shadows, the same as the Blu Ray is.Warcraft, Blu Ray Has better colors

Oblivion on Blu Ray looks fantastic, on 4K I don't know

But saying that HDR will look always look better then 1080p is not always the case.

Just like it was with DVD when Blu ray came out, some looked good others was worst then the DVD was.

Suicide Squad good example, the Blu Ray looks much better then the HDR does.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by shield80

here is some where either the BD is better or the same

Bram Stocker Dracula, The 4K is a little sharper than the Blu Ray


teenage mutant ninja turtles out of the shadows, the same as the Blu Ray is.Warcraft, Blu Ray Has better colors

Oblivion on Blu Ray looks fantastic, on 4K I don't know

But saying that HDR will look always look better then 1080p is not always the case.

Just like it was with DVD when Blu ray came out, some looked good others was worst then the DVD was.

Suicide Squad good example, the Blu Ray looks much better then the HDR does.

Hmmm, I think Dracula’s 4K is a good upgrade. I haven’t seen the other so I dunno. But yeah, just because it has HDR doesn’t mean it’s better, you’re right. But I will say this, I would take a slightly softer image with good HDR over a BD. That might just be me though.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

I have 20/15 in both eyes, and I didn't notice an uptick. And the fact that we have different experiences indicates that a debate is justified, and possibly even beneficial. It only turns crappy when someone (not you, Sauron ) can't handle civil disagreement and would rather fight about it.

btw: I directly asked you about the bright dark scenes, and you've ignored the inquiry. This seems quite fishy

I sold off my copy of Stokers Dracula in UHD. I was not impressed. It was trivially better in some shots but overall I felt I gained nothing by watching the UHD over my exisiting blu-ray. HDR or not, this title IMO is quite skippable regarding rebuying it if you already have the good blu-ray version.

[evoll]

Same here, I traded mine for another movie from a member on here. Just wasn't a huge difference over the Blu Ray which is rare because most of the 4k discs look better than the Blu Ray by a good bit.

[wesslan]

And Sony discs tend to look amazing most of the time. If all did that level of quality on UHD....

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I sold off my copy of Stokers Dracula in UHD. I was not impressed. It was trivially better in some shots but overall I felt I gained nothing by watching the UHD over my exisiting blu-ray. HDR or not, this title IMO is quite skippable regarding rebuying it if you already have the good blu-ray version.

The use of HDR was top notch in some scenes

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[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

The use of HDR was top notch in some scenes

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Sure, a few scenes. But that doesn’t justify keeping it for me. Older catalog titles have to be really, really impressive to me to rebuy a title I already own a good version of on bluray. Little HDR enhancements or sharpness here and there isn’t enough. IMO.