MoviePass

[Falaskan]

I see 1 to 4 movies a month.
People who go everyday have no lives, and are likely abusing the system.

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]

So its people's faults for using something they are allowed too?

Shouldn't say every day if you don't expect people to do so. Or at least see one almost every other day.

[jawsfan1975]

I love watching movies, but if it wasn't for Moviepass, which I have for me and my wife. I would be waiting for most movies to hit blu ray. Now we see at least a movie each weekend and sometimes 2-3. Just have to buy a ticket for my son when he wants to tag along.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I see 1 to 4 movies a month.
People who go everyday have no lives, and are likely abusing the system.

Abusing? It is exactly what the program allows and advertises.

So 1) stop being condescending, and telling other people they don't have lives, and
2) if you are so against movie pass, as all of your posts in this thread seem to indicate, then stop visiting the thread.

[sandman slim]

Originally Posted by Destinys Memory

You can still see the old terms through caching. They removed this paragraph, which was fairly important: "You will be notified of any price changes made to the terms of service prior to your next billing cycle, at which point you would have 14 days to opt-out of the Service and terminate your subscription. MoviePass will not make any changes to your subscription mid-cycle, all changes will be in affect at the start of your next billing cycle."

The way the new terms read, they are within their rights to change prices at absolutely any time (5 minutes from now if they want to) with no advance notice. That's a telling paragraph to remove. Keep an eye on your credit card statements, people.

This would mean that they could - legally - alter your monthly price during the month, or add on a surcharge for people that are seeing "too many" movies. Would likely kill their business, though; if "superusers" start seeing $30 or $40 monthly charges, they'll cancel their membership with the next month, and take to social media to roast the company.

Also, how can they be negotiating for a percentage of concessions? How can that possibly be tracked, unless members are required to use their Moviepass card to pay for popcorn?

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I see 1 to 4 movies a month.
People who go everyday have no lives, and are likely abusing the system.

Because of the continuous rise in ticket prices (I say at least 3 to 4 times a YEAR), one needs to pick and choose wisely. If it was just me, then ok. But when you factor in spouse and children, cost per trip can escalate quickly. Then there are movies that had great trailers and end up being crap in the main movie. Who's fault is that? The theaters? Nope...it's the studios who green light that shit in the first place.

Pre movie pass I was pretty much on Par with your 1 to 4 movies a month. Movie pass allows one to explore more movie choices and lower the risk of walking out feeling ripped off. I walked out of Thank you for your service and Coco for several factors. Almost walked out of The Post as well as I dozed off several times during that movie and I only had 20 mins to go so I decided to stay. MP made me feel like all I did was lose time with those movies and not so much on money. I mean I can't go to the Manager and say "This movie sucked I want my money back.."

Some of the great movies I saw last year were not big sci fi block busters but the smaller ones. Without MP I wouldn't have spent the money to see them and would have missed out on some great films.

Going everyday would be a challenge, if you go after work and have a family. You need to block out at least 3 to 4 hours for the movie and on top of that running time and trailers and travel time. Unless you live within walking distance and not working full time, then it would be difficult to do so going everyday. The only reason why I went every day during xmas break because I was off from work and I had the time to do so. Now I barely have time so I am back to 1 movie a week.

I don't see the point of "Abusing the system". If all you are doing is point mining or selling your tickets to someone else at a discounted rate then yes it's total abuse and one should get banned for that.

I doubt theater are making sure you are attending the movie you bought a ticket for. It would be a waste of time. As long as they are getting their full admission price for the ticket, they don't care if you don't show up.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

This would mean that they could - legally - alter your monthly price during the month, or add on a surcharge for people that are seeing "too many" movies. Would likely kill their business, though; if "superusers" start seeing $30 or $40 monthly charges, they'll cancel their membership with the next month, and take to social media to roast the company.

Also, how can they be negotiating for a percentage of concessions? How can that possibly be tracked, unless members are required to use their Moviepass card to pay for popcorn?

What constitutes seeing too many movies? If an average of 5-6 movies come out during active months, then that shouldn't be a problem. Now if you are seeing the same movie over and over every month several times during the month, then you must either really like the damn movie or are using MP to sneak into higher premium screenings (like 3d/IMAX/RPX).

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

Abusing? It is exactly what the program allows amd advertises.

So 1) stop being condescending, and telling other people they don't have lives, and
2) if you are so against movie pass, as all of your posts in this thread seem to indicate, then stop visiting the thread.

Just like I said. If they didn't want people seeing so many movies. They shouldn't advertise that you can see a movie every day.

It's just like giving someone a life time supply of Subway and then someone going there everyday to get a Sub and then Subway getting mad about it. Even though Subway gave them it.

Just seems like in general as of late on this site. That a lot of people want to look down on others and how to live their lives and that they're better.

[Rlow3]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I see 1 to 4 movies a month.
People who go everyday have no lives, and are likely abusing the system.

Or maybe we just really like movies? Since were on a forum discussing them?
I know, crazy idea right.

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]

Originally Posted by Rlow3

Or maybe we just really like movies? Since were on a forum discussing them?
I know, crazy idea right.

I know. Shocker, right? Who would do that for?

[Britnasty]

Guys, he’s just busy writing his novels! We don’t understand his life!

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

People who go everyday have no lives, and are likely abusing the system.

I'd imagine it's a godsend to people who have to wait in towns and cities a couple of hours everyday after work or school before they can catch trains or buses home.

If I was in walking distance of a theatre in the US, I'd love MoviePass.

[Destinys Memory]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

Also, how can they be negotiating for a percentage of concessions? How can that possibly be tracked, unless members are required to use their Moviepass card to pay for popcorn?

The way Deadline puts it, MoviePass has been pressuring AMC for a 20% stake in concessions based on the ticket sales they've brought in.

We know that we currently represent approximately 62% of AMC’s operating income, assuming that AMC is flat year over year. This equates to $34.4 million of gross profits to AMC in the upcoming quarter. On an annualized run rate basis, that’s over $135 million to AMC’s gross profits — which doesn’t include concession sales from MoviePass subscribers.

So it looks like they're asking for 20% of 62% of concessions. The actual number MP is bringing in is 4.2%.

From The Verge:

That certainly sounds impressive at first glance — 62% is a substantial amount of AMC’s business. But the number MoviePass is looking at isn’t gross income, it’s operating income, the money left over after a company’s operating costs have been considered. The reference point here appears to be AMC’s financial report for Q1 2017, where the company posted $55.4 million in operating income. (Taking 62% of that gets you to MoviePass’ $34.4 million number.) But the $55.4 million figure isn’t actually a useful comparison at all. Theatrical exhibition is a notoriously expensive business, with the costs of maintaining and operating physical locations, fees paid to studios, and a host of other costs aggressively eating into AMC’s significantly larger gross income.

Since MoviePass doesn’t help offset any of those operating costs for theater owners, the service appears to be conflating two different sets of numbers by comparing the gross admissions it generates for AMC against the chain’s post-costs income. That’s misdirection, if not outright deception.

The real way to judge how much MoviePass contributes is to look at what a chain like AMC makes in admissions, the people buying tickets. There, the numbers are starkly different, with MoviePass representing a small fraction of the overall revenue. AMC posted Q1 2017 admissions revenue of $817.3 million. Using MoviePass’ own projection, its contributions to AMC’s revenue would actually amount to just 4.2 percent — hardly the windfall the MoviePass statement attempts to project.


If I was AMC, I'd tell MoviePass to take a long walk off a short pier, too. Even if they're "only" asking for 20% of 4.2% of concessions, they're not entitled to that money. Theatres make money from concessions, more than tickets. Not surprised at how AMC has responded to MoviePass asking for a handout.

It's fine to enjoy the service they're providing (until they raise rates and everyone starts flipping tables), but it appears they are not being honest.

[sandman slim]

True, but how would MP (or anyone) know how many MP customers actually bought concessions? I never buy food at a movie theater. I'm only going to be there a few hours, and the ten bucks it would cost to get a drink & popcorn will buy me a full meal at the Chinese buffet across the street. Sounds like MP is trying to strongarm their way into money that they have no claim to.

[CelluloidPal]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

True, but how would MP (or anyone) know how many MP customers actually bought concessions? I never buy food at a movie theater. I'm only going to be there a few hours, and the ten bucks it would cost to get a drink & popcorn will buy me a full meal at the Chinese buffet across the street. Sounds like MP is trying to strongarm their way into money that they have no claim to.

I believe that MP have surveys out there and getting responses there.

As for concessions, if I'm hungry before a movie and cannot make it to a food place or don't have access to one, I'll get something. Most of my close by theaters are Regal and they have actually rock solid food there and the prices are actually reasonable. You can usually get a burger combo for under $10.00.
As for AMC, I tried their flatbread pizza and let just say that I had pizzas from 7-Eleven that had more flavor.

[Beazy]

Movie pass has been a great experience to both my wife and I, unfortunately we were affected by the recent change as we fell in the AMC Veterans Tampa Fl this theater was literally 7 min away. Yes there are other theaters(20+ min in any direction) :

[MazeRunner]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I see 1 to 4 movies a month.
People who go everyday have no lives, and are likely abusing the system.

Yeah, some people go overboard. If the only thing you do in your free time is go to the movies with your MoviePass card, seeing a movie you saw a few times already, then you're just wasting precious time. Nothing wrong with going to the movies, but find other hobbies. Make some friends.

[Chaotic]

Wow....

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by TakeApartYourHead

Yeah, some people go overboard. If the only thing you do in your free time is go to the movies with your MoviePass card, seeing a movie you saw a few times already, then you're just wasting precious time. Nothing wrong with going to the movies, but find other hobbies. Make some friends.

Movies help me with my depression, they offer a respite from the stress and demons in my head. No joke. I was so glad I signed up for MoviePass because on the days I see a movie, even a bad one... I feel good and my mood is better.

I have over 500 movies at home but there is something about leaving my house and just enjoying time to myself without family, neighbors, etc. bugging me. I get my ticket, my snacks, shut off my phone, and I'm in a quiet & safe place.

[MazeRunner]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Movies help me with my depression, they offer a respite from the stress and demons in my head. No joke. I was so glad I signed up for MoviePass because on the days I see a movie, even a bad one... I feel good and my mood is better.

I have over 500 movies at home but there is something about leaving my house and just enjoying time to myself without family, neighbors, etc. bugging me. I get my ticket, my snacks, shut off my phone, and I'm in a quiet & safe place.

This I completely understand. I try to do it too once or twice a week. But there's people here having competitions on who can go the most. And some members here plan their entire days around it, having to ride public transportation or taking Ubers, so it takes awhile to get to the theatre. It just seems like so much hassle to go through for one movie a day. If I'm behind on my movies I'll see 2-3 movies in one night. Going every other day just seems exhausting. An entire day wasted to see one movie.