The Hallelujah Trail (1965)

[T. Warren Scollan]

Originally Posted by Swissangel4616

when the Quality Looks Close like "BEN HUR" or "Khartoum" then I might be in - otherwise : nah

"Ben Hur" and "Khartoum" look as good as they do because they were scanned from an original 65/70mm MGM Camera 65/Ultra Panavision elements. Considering the prestige of "Ben Hur", that's to be expected. But it came as a surprise to me for "Khartoum"! Wonderful to see them in the OAR of 2.76/1. Wondering if when we finally get a Zone A of "The Fall of the Roman Empire" if we'll see it in it's OAR?

[cinerama]

Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

Wondering if when we finally get a Zone A of "The Fall of the Roman Empire" if we'll see it in it's OAR?

"The Fall of the Roman Empire" was released flat 70mm 2.2. That would be cool to see the full 2.76 but I doubt it.

All of the MGM Camera 65/Utra Panavision titles have been released on Blu-ray in 2.76 except for:

Raintree County only released on VHS tape 2.35
The Fall of the Roman Empire Blu-ray 2.35
The Hallelujah Trail DVD 2.35

[T. Warren Scollan]

Originally Posted by cinerama

"The Fall of the Roman Empire" was released flat 70mm 2.2. That would be cool to see the full 2.76 but I doubt it.

All of the MGM Camera 65/Utra Panavision titles have been released on Blu-ray in 2.76 except for:

Raintree County only released on VHS tape 2.35
The Fall of the Roman Empire Blu-ray 2.35
The Hallelujah Trail DVD 2.35

If "Roman Empire" was only released flat, why in the heck would they film in Ultra Panavision? The result would be a slight loss of image sharpness due to using less area of the OCN and some use of anamorphics, admittedly slight at 1.25/1, but still there. Maybe somewhere the OCN exists or possibly an interveneing(sp?) element from before rather than after the flat correction?

I'll admit I have a thing for the super wide MGM Camera 65/Ultra Panavision format!

[CinemaScope]

Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

Wondering if when we finally get a Zone A of "The Fall of the Roman Empire" if we'll see it in it's OAR?

The region B of Fall Of The Roman Empire doesn't look much cop, I believe it was scanned from a low-contrast print (ditto El Cid). Done properly, these films could look stunning on Blu-ray, but will it ever happen?

[yellowcakeuf6]

Can Weinstein still conduct business from his cave?

[f451]

Hallelujah Trail looked fabulous on the big CINERAMA screen in its day -- the Technicolor was rich -- as in RICH and sharp as a tack. It's not the greatest or funniest western but still decent entertainment. Lancaster is, well, Lancaster -- he's superb. Great scenery, clean fun. Hope they scan from the OCR, keep the wraparound sound, and give it the full roadshow treatment.

[T. Warren Scollan]

Originally Posted by f451

Hallelujah Trail looked fabulous on the big CINERAMA screen in its day -- the Technicolor was rich -- as in RICH and sharp as a tack. It's not the greatest or funniest western but still decent entertainment. Lancaster is, well, Lancaster -- he's superb. Great scenery, clean fun. Hope they scan from the OCR, keep the wraparound sound, and give it the full roadshow treatment.

Knowing Olive Films, NOT!!!

[laidbacklarkin]

Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

Knowing Olive Films, NOT!!!

Olive only does what's given to them by the licensing studio. so much of the groundwork for a clean master is the responsibility of the studio. Olive's business is just like Kino's - encode and throw on a BD-50 while smoking weed

[cinerama]

Comparison of R1 and R2 DVD's

R2 DVD looks better but is cropped compared to the R1 on all four sides for most of the screen shots shown.

[Mister VistaVision]

Too bad they still refuse to release RAINTREE COUNTY without the original MGM Camera 65 title card.

[cinerama]

From Olive Films web site (looks like it will be the same transfer as the R2 DVD):



BURT LANCASTER (From Here to Eternity, Elmer Gantry, Twilight’s Last Gleaming)
LEE REMICK (Days of Wine and Roses, Anatomy of a Murder, The Omen)
BRIAN KEITH (The Parent Trap, Nickelodeon, TV’s Family Affair)
MARTIN LANDAU (Ed Wood, North by Northwest, TV’s Mission: Impossible)
JIM HUTTON (Walk, Don’t Run; Major Dundee; Where the Boys Are)

Directed by JOHN STURGES (The Great Escape, The Magnificent Seven, Bad Day at Black Rock)

Burt Lancaster (Elmer Gantry) and Lee Remick (Days of Wine and Roses) star in The Hallelujah Trail, the widescreen comic western extravaganza directed by John Sturges (The Magnificent Seven) from a screenplay by John Gay (The Courtship of Eddie’s Father) based on the novel by Bill Gulick.

Under the watchful eye of its owner Frank Wallingham (Brian Keith, The Parent Trap), the Wallingham Freighting Company is bound for Denver with forty wagons of whiskey to quench the town’s thirst. But there are others who have plans of their own for the load of libations including temperance leader Cora Templeton Massingale (Remick), who wants it destroyed, the Sioux Indians who want it for themselves, ditto the Denver citizens militia, as well as the Irish teamsters hired as wagon drivers. Fearing that the shipment may not reach its destination, Colonel Thaddeus Gearhart (Lancaster) assigns Captain Paul Slater (Jim Hutton; Walk, Don’t Run) to safeguard the cargo, unaware that Slater’s fiancée, Louise (Pamela Tiffin, Harper) – who also happens to be the Colonel’s daughter – has fallen under the powerful spell of Cora’s temperance message.

Rounding out the cast in this comic free-for-all are Donald Pleasence (Halloween), Martin Landau (Ed Wood), Dub Taylor (Bonnie and Clyde), John Anderson (Ride the High Country), Tom Stern (The Spy Who Came in from the Cold) and Val Avery (Black Caesar).

The Hallelujah Trail was photographed in the Ultra Panavision 70 format by three-time Academy Award® winner Robert Surtees (King Solomon’s Mines – 1951, The Bad and the Beautiful – 1953, Ben-Hur – 1960), costumed by eight-time Academy Award® winner Edith Head (The Sting – 1974), with a rousing score by Academy Award® winner Elmer Bernstein (Best Music, Original Music Score, Thoroughly Modern Millie – 1968).

DISCLAIMER: The Hallelujah Trail is presented using the best available elements.

LANGUAGE: ENGLISH (with optional English subtitles)
TOTAL RUNNING TIME: 155 mins
VIDEO: 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio; COLOR

The Hallelujah Trail will be available on DVD and Blu-ray on February 27th.

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by cinerama

From Olive Films web site (looks like it will be the same transfer as the R2 DVD):
DISCLAIMER: The Hallelujah Trail is presented using the best available elements.

LANGUAGE: ENGLISH (with optional English subtitles)
TOTAL RUNNING TIME: 155 mins
VIDEO: 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio; COLOR

The Hallelujah Trail will be available on DVD and Blu-ray on February 27th.

OUCH! The dreaded disclaimer.

[GetHarryPalmer]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

We did get the very good Strategic Air Command from them, but I will wait for reviews.

Which was remastered by Paramount Archives from a 4K scan of the OCN.

[GetHarryPalmer]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Cover art:

The billing looks kind of weird, it looks like Jim Hutton is top billed, but lower than Lancaster. I'm surprised MGM approved it.

[T. Warren Scollan]

The 2.35/1 aspect ratio GARANTEES(sp?) a scan from a 35mm anamorphic reduction element!!!

"Best Available" means best available to the cheapskate head of Olive!

[T. Warren Scollan]

Originally Posted by GetHarryPalmer

Which was remastered by Paramount Archives from a 4K scan of the OCN.

And scanning the OCN of a VistaVision film means a great result. Just look at the Blu-ray of "The Ten Commandments"!!!!

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

The 2.35/1 aspect ratio GARANTEES(sp?) a scan from a 35mm anamorphic reduction element!!!

"Best Available" means best available to the cheapskate head of Olive!

The rights holder would have to do the heavy lifting which in this case means accessing the OCN either directly or through an IP.

Olive is supposed to show good judgement in selecting movies that preferably should be up to a certain standard with regard to both the quality of the movie and the quality of the presentation. So far it looks like they failed to do that by releasing a visually compromised version of a movie that is not very popular outside of its claim to fame of being a movie that was shot in ultrawide large format and presented in cinerama theaters.

Others may find a scope presentation from a 35mm element oK but I cannot really be happy about such a presentation in 2018.

[cinerama]

From another site the sound is listed as mono. I hope not!

THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL DVD
CAT: OF1404
UPC: 887090140416
SRP: $24.95

THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL BD
CAT: OF1405
UPC: 887090140515
SRP: $29.95

THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL

BURT LANCASTER
(From Here to Eternity, Elmer Gantry, Twilight’s Last Gleaming)
LEE REMICK
(Days of Wine and Roses, Anatomy of a Murder, The Omen)
BRIAN KEITH
(The Parent Trap, Nickelodeon, TV’s Family Affair)
MARTIN LANDAU
(Ed Wood, North by Northwest, TV’s Mission: Impossible)
JIM HUTTON
(Walk, Don’t Run; Major Dundee; Where the Boys Are)

Directed by
JOHN STURGES
(The Great Escape, The Magnificent Seven, Bad Day at Black Rock)

The Hallelujah Trail’s 70mm Panavision frame can scarcely contain the number of Academy Award® winners and nominees including director John Sturges (Best Director nominee, Bad Day at Black Rock – 1956), Burt Lancaster (Best Actor winner, Elmer Gantry – 1961), Lee Remick (Best Actress nominee, Days of Wine and Roses – 1963) and Martin Landau (Best Supporting Actor winner, Ed Wood – 1995).

YEAR: 1965
GENRE: COMEDY, WESTERN
LANGUAGE: ENGLISH (with optional English subtitles)
LABEL: OLIVE FILMS
TOTAL RUNNING TIME: 155 mins
RATING: N/R
VIDEO: 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio; COLOR
AUDIO: MONO

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

The rights holder would have to do the heavy lifting which in this case means accessing the OCN either directly or through an IP.

Olive is supposed to show good judgement in selecting movies that preferably should be up to a certain standard with regard to both the quality of the movie and the quality of the presentation. So far it looks like they failed to do that by releasing a visually compromised version of a movie that is not very popular outside of its claim to fame of being a movie that was shot in ultrawide large format and presented in cinerama theaters.

Others may find a scope presentation from a 35mm element oK but I cannot really be happy about such a presentation in 2018.

I totally agree. This is what we can now expect with the studios licensing out these type of titles. Kino's Custer of the West and Krakatoa: East of Java were similar 35mm sources, though they did look pretty good for what they are: compromises.

Originally Posted by cinerama

From another site the sound is listed as mono. I hope not!

[Show spoiler]THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL DVD
CAT: OF1404
UPC: 887090140416
SRP: $24.95

THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL BD
CAT: OF1405
UPC: 887090140515
SRP: $29.95

THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL

BURT LANCASTER
(From Here to Eternity, Elmer Gantry, Twilight’s Last Gleaming)
LEE REMICK
(Days of Wine and Roses, Anatomy of a Murder, The Omen)
BRIAN KEITH
(The Parent Trap, Nickelodeon, TV’s Family Affair)
MARTIN LANDAU
(Ed Wood, North by Northwest, TV’s Mission: Impossible)
JIM HUTTON
(Walk, Don’t Run; Major Dundee; Where the Boys Are)

Directed by
JOHN STURGES
(The Great Escape, The Magnificent Seven, Bad Day at Black Rock)

The Hallelujah Trail’s 70mm Panavision frame can scarcely contain the number of Academy Award® winners and nominees including director John Sturges (Best Director nominee, Bad Day at Black Rock – 1956), Burt Lancaster (Best Actor winner, Elmer Gantry – 1961), Lee Remick (Best Actress nominee, Days of Wine and Roses – 1963) and Martin Landau (Best Supporting Actor winner, Ed Wood – 1995).

YEAR: 1965
GENRE: COMEDY, WESTERN
LANGUAGE: ENGLISH (with optional English subtitles)
LABEL: OLIVE FILMS
TOTAL RUNNING TIME: 155 mins
RATING: N/R
VIDEO: 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio; COLOR
AUDIO: MONO

I would not be surprised. We get them compromised or not at all now.

[T. Warren Scollan]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

The rights holder would have to do the heavy lifting which in this case means accessing the OCN either directly or through an IP.

Olive is supposed to show good judgement in selecting movies that preferably should be up to a certain standard with regard to both the quality of the movie and the quality of the presentation. So far it looks like they failed to do that by releasing a visually compromised version of a movie that is not very popular outside of its claim to fame of being a movie that was shot in ultrawide large format and presented in cinerama theaters.

Others may find a scope presentation from a 35mm element oK but I cannot really be happy about such a presentation in 2018.

And don't be happy about Olive's FLAT presentation of Martin and Lewis' classic "Money From Home". They were too cheap to pay a small free to have a 3D master done. Just took the same scan used for Legend Film's DVD. Even if one doesn't care about 3D, what about the people who do? Like us who care about image quality.