New Pioneer BRP's! Cheap too! - Blu-ray Forum

MoPe · 01-08-2009, 11:22 AM

Here you go Pio fans.

Looks like I'll be picking up a new Pio receiver debuted yesterday. And quite possibly get my hands on a new Pio BRP to see how it compares to the good 'ole 51FD.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07...lu-ray-player/

http://i.gizmodo.com/5125634/pioneer...step+up-models

Strannix136 · 01-08-2009, 12:42 PM

Those are some beautiful looking players.

MoPe · 01-08-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Strannix136

Those are some beautiful looking players.

mmmmhmmm.

Zman2k2 · 01-08-2009, 03:43 PM

Great. And here I was thinking I'm all set for my video playback. Along comes the next gen of Pio. players', and I'm back at the beginning again.

coolmilo · 01-08-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zman2k2

Great. And here I was thinking I'm all set for my video playback. Along comes the next gen of Pio. players', and I'm back at the beginning again.

It never ends.

HD Man · 01-08-2009, 05:45 PM

Looking good Pioneer!!!

And good prices also. I need/want another player for my basement system and will watch prices on the now older 51/05 or may pull the plug on one of these.

supersix4 · 01-08-2009, 09:04 PM

good they really cleaned up during the dvd frenzy when they did sub $400 players

ManUtd · 01-08-2009, 09:59 PM

Finally something very interesting from Pio, good features and prices and great looks. I'm itching to demote my aging 95FD to the bedroom. I was gonna go for the 05FD but somehow not too happy about the issues that people are reporting.

sheedoe · 01-08-2009, 10:09 PM

Great find. Now I'm thinking whether I shoud get the pioneer BDP-320 or the Oppo BDP-83. Since the 320 sense the picture settings when it's connected to a 9G Kuro plasma (which I have), and adjusts the video output, it might be a better option. But the oppo can't be that bad either. Any thoughts??

joe1515 · 01-09-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sheedoe

Great find. Now I'm thinking whether I shoud get the pioneer BDP-320 or the Oppo BDP-83. Since the 320 sense the picture settings when it's connected to a 9G Kuro plasma (which I have), and adjusts the video output, it might be a better option. But the oppo can't be that bad either. Any thoughts??

Funny I was thinking the same exact thing

MoPe · 01-09-2009, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by joe1515

Funny I was thinking the same exact thing

Oppo has great upscaler, if you have lots of SD-DVD's. If you only watch BR, I see no reason why Pio wouldn't top the charts in PQ/AQ like they have since the release of the 51FD.

MoPe · 01-09-2009, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I was gonna go for the 05FD but somehow not too happy about the issues that people are reporting.

The Pio is for users who need those extra few tweaks, and don't mind a disk or two freezing to reap the rewards. Keep in mind, the 51FD has a 2nd-gen chip, while most BRP are still on their 1st-gen chip, so there still is a few bugs in the current crop of BRP's (51FD). I would assume there would be a few bugs in these newest players, as I doubt Pio has fully figured out their 2nd-gen chip, but if you're down for slightly "slow" 'er load times, and a few bugs, for the benefit of the outstanding features, I'm sure these players are for you.

If you're looking for a plug 'n play, family unit, look elsewhere. These players are for the dedicated BR fans.

Zvi · 01-09-2009, 03:03 AM

I relly wanna know how fast is "fast loading". Probably I'll upgrade from PS3 to Elite then...

MoPe · 01-09-2009, 03:33 AM

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I relly wanna know how fast is "fast loading". Probably I'll upgrade from PS3 to Elite then...

Probably 9.719038522 seconds slower than the "fastest" loading player. Like I really needed those 9.719038522 seconds.

ManUtd · 01-09-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MoPe

The Pio is for users who need those extra few tweaks, and don't mind a disk or two freezing to reap the rewards. Keep in mind, the 51FD has a 2nd-gen chip, while most BRP are still on their 1st-gen chip, so there still is a few bugs in the current crop of BRP's (51FD). I would assume there would be a few bugs in these newest players, as I doubt Pio has fully figured out their 2nd-gen chip, but if you're down for slightly "slow" 'er load times, and a few bugs, for the benefit of the outstanding features, I'm sure these players are for you.

If you're looking for a plug 'n play, family unit, look elsewhere. These players are for the dedicated BR fans.

You're preaching to the choir.

I am a big Pio Elite fan (see my sig) and I fully understand that there are no bug-free players. If these new players weren't announced, I would probably still give the 05FD a try. One thing for sure, I don't remember my 95FD having as many issues as the 05FD owners are experiencing now.

MoPe · 01-09-2009, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

You're preaching to the choir.

I am a big Pio Elite fan (see my sig) and I fully understand that there are no bug-free players. If these new players weren't announced, I would probably still give the 05FD a try. One thing for sure, I don't remember my 95FD having as many issues as the 05FD owners are experiencing now.

If you have a decent/higher-end speaker system, I wouldn't count out the 05/51, just yet. I haven't heard what type of DAC's the new players use though. However I wouldn't doubt if they used the same ones.

werewuf · 01-09-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MoPe

The Pio is for users who need those extra few tweaks, and don't mind a disk or two freezing to reap the rewards. Keep in mind, the 51FD has a 2nd-gen chip, while most BRP are still on their 1st-gen chip, so there still is a few bugs in the current crop of BRP's (51FD). I would assume there would be a few bugs in these newest players, as I doubt Pio has fully figured out their 2nd-gen chip, but if you're down for slightly "slow" 'er load times, and a few bugs, for the benefit of the outstanding features, I'm sure these players are for you.

If you're looking for a plug 'n play, family unit, look elsewhere. These players are for the dedicated BR fans.

I have both the BDP-95 and the BDP-51 and have not had any issues with either. Both have been smooth running and glitch free (I do keep the firmware updated) I feel that some people have been blowing this Pio glitch thing out of proportion.....

MoPe · 01-09-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by werewuf

I have both the BDP-95 and the BDP-51 and have not had any issues with either. Both have been smooth running and glitch free (I do keep the firmware updated) I feel that some people have been blowing this Pio glitch thing out of proportion.....

+2,000.

This cannot be said enough. There was a pole done on AVS, and I think 10% of owners have had a problem with a glitch/bug/restart etc. That's very low, IMO, for a "new" technology.

I've been through about 200 BR movies (in-store rental, monthly BB) and have had about 15 freeze at beginning, and run fine after restart. All-in-all, a lovely player.

Argento Fan · 01-09-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MoPe

Here you go Pio fans.

Looks like I'll be picking up a new Pio receiver debuted yesterday. And quite possibly get my hands on a new Pio BRP to see how it compares to the good 'ole 51FD.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07...lu-ray-player/

http://i.gizmodo.com/5125634/pioneer...step+up-models

Those are some beauties indeed. BD players have come a loooong way.

01-08-2009, 11:22 AM	#1
MoPe Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Orlando	New Pioneer BRP's! Cheap too! Here you go Pio fans. Looks like I'll be picking up a new Pio receiver debuted yesterday. And quite possibly get my hands on a new Pio BRP to see how it compares to the good 'ole 51FD. http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07...lu-ray-player/ http://i.gizmodo.com/5125634/pioneer...step+up-models

01-08-2009, 12:42 PM	#2
Strannix136 Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Michigan Blu-ray collection:310 DVD collection:84 Blu-ray reviews:1	Those are some beautiful looking players.

01-08-2009, 03:43 PM	#4
Zman2k2 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Calgary, Canada Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:136 Trading Score:54	Great. And here I was thinking I'm all set for my video playback. Along comes the next gen of Pio. players', and I'm back at the beginning again.

01-08-2009, 05:45 PM	#6
HD Man Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Wash, DC area Blu-ray collection:253 Trading Score:2	Looking good Pioneer!!! And good prices also. I need/want another player for my basement system and will watch prices on the now older 51/05 or may pull the plug on one of these.

01-08-2009, 09:04 PM	#7
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	good they really cleaned up during the dvd frenzy when they did sub $400 players

01-08-2009, 09:59 PM	#8
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	Finally something very interesting from Pio, good features and prices and great looks. I'm itching to demote my aging 95FD to the bedroom. I was gonna go for the 05FD but somehow not too happy about the issues that people are reporting.

01-08-2009, 10:09 PM	#9
sheedoe Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Brooklyn, New York Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray collection:133 Blu-ray reviews:4	Great find. Now I'm thinking whether I shoud get the pioneer BDP-320 or the Oppo BDP-83. Since the 320 sense the picture settings when it's connected to a 9G Kuro plasma (which I have), and adjusts the video output, it might be a better option. But the oppo can't be that bad either. Any thoughts??

01-09-2009, 03:03 AM	#13
Zvi Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Blu-ray collection:121	I relly wanna know how fast is "fast loading". Probably I'll upgrade from PS3 to Elite then...

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