New Pioneer BRP's! Cheap too!

[MoPe]

Here you go Pio fans.

Looks like I'll be picking up a new Pio receiver debuted yesterday. And quite possibly get my hands on a new Pio BRP to see how it compares to the good 'ole 51FD.



http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07...lu-ray-player/

http://i.gizmodo.com/5125634/pioneer...step+up-models

[Strannix136]

Those are some beautiful looking players.

[MoPe]

Originally Posted by Strannix136

Those are some beautiful looking players.

mmmmhmmm.

[Zman2k2]

Great. And here I was thinking I'm all set for my video playback. Along comes the next gen of Pio. players', and I'm back at the beginning again.

[coolmilo]

Originally Posted by Zman2k2

Great. And here I was thinking I'm all set for my video playback. Along comes the next gen of Pio. players', and I'm back at the beginning again.

It never ends.

[HD Man]

Looking good Pioneer!!!

And good prices also. I need/want another player for my basement system and will watch prices on the now older 51/05 or may pull the plug on one of these.

[supersix4]

good they really cleaned up during the dvd frenzy when they did sub $400 players

[ManUtd]

Finally something very interesting from Pio, good features and prices and great looks. I'm itching to demote my aging 95FD to the bedroom. I was gonna go for the 05FD but somehow not too happy about the issues that people are reporting.

[sheedoe]

Great find. Now I'm thinking whether I shoud get the pioneer BDP-320 or the Oppo BDP-83. Since the 320 sense the picture settings when it's connected to a 9G Kuro plasma (which I have), and adjusts the video output, it might be a better option. But the oppo can't be that bad either. Any thoughts??

[joe1515]

Originally Posted by sheedoe

Great find. Now I'm thinking whether I shoud get the pioneer BDP-320 or the Oppo BDP-83. Since the 320 sense the picture settings when it's connected to a 9G Kuro plasma (which I have), and adjusts the video output, it might be a better option. But the oppo can't be that bad either. Any thoughts??

Funny I was thinking the same exact thing

[MoPe]

Originally Posted by joe1515

Funny I was thinking the same exact thing

Oppo has great upscaler, if you have lots of SD-DVD's. If you only watch BR, I see no reason why Pio wouldn't top the charts in PQ/AQ like they have since the release of the 51FD.

[Argento Fan]

Originally Posted by MoPe

Here you go Pio fans.

Looks like I'll be picking up a new Pio receiver debuted yesterday. And quite possibly get my hands on a new Pio BRP to see how it compares to the good 'ole 51FD.



http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07...lu-ray-player/

http://i.gizmodo.com/5125634/pioneer...step+up-models

Those are some beauties indeed. BD players have come a loooong way.

[MoPe]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I was gonna go for the 05FD but somehow not too happy about the issues that people are reporting.

The Pio is for users who need those extra few tweaks, and don't mind a disk or two freezing to reap the rewards. Keep in mind, the 51FD has a 2nd-gen chip, while most BRP are still on their 1st-gen chip, so there still is a few bugs in the current crop of BRP's (51FD). I would assume there would be a few bugs in these newest players, as I doubt Pio has fully figured out their 2nd-gen chip, but if you're down for slightly "slow" 'er load times, and a few bugs, for the benefit of the outstanding features, I'm sure these players are for you.

If you're looking for a plug 'n play, family unit, look elsewhere. These players are for the dedicated BR fans.

[Zvi]

I relly wanna know how fast is "fast loading". Probably I'll upgrade from PS3 to Elite then...

[ManUtd]

Originally Posted by MoPe

The Pio is for users who need those extra few tweaks, and don't mind a disk or two freezing to reap the rewards. Keep in mind, the 51FD has a 2nd-gen chip, while most BRP are still on their 1st-gen chip, so there still is a few bugs in the current crop of BRP's (51FD). I would assume there would be a few bugs in these newest players, as I doubt Pio has fully figured out their 2nd-gen chip, but if you're down for slightly "slow" 'er load times, and a few bugs, for the benefit of the outstanding features, I'm sure these players are for you.

If you're looking for a plug 'n play, family unit, look elsewhere. These players are for the dedicated BR fans.

You're preaching to the choir. I am a big Pio Elite fan (see my sig) and I fully understand that there are no bug-free players. If these new players weren't announced, I would probably still give the 05FD a try. One thing for sure, I don't remember my 95FD having as many issues as the 05FD owners are experiencing now.

[MoPe]

Originally Posted by Zvi

I relly wanna know how fast is "fast loading". Probably I'll upgrade from PS3 to Elite then...

Probably 9.719038522 seconds slower than the "fastest" loading player. Like I really needed those 9.719038522 seconds.

[MoPe]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

You're preaching to the choir. I am a big Pio Elite fan (see my sig) and I fully understand that there are no bug-free players. If these new players weren't announced, I would probably still give the 05FD a try. One thing for sure, I don't remember my 95FD having as many issues as the 05FD owners are experiencing now.

If you have a decent/higher-end speaker system, I wouldn't count out the 05/51, just yet. I haven't heard what type of DAC's the new players use though. However I wouldn't doubt if they used the same ones.

[jstute55]

Originally Posted by MoPe

Probably 9.719038522 seconds slower than the "fastest" loading player. Like I really needed those 9.719038522 seconds.

I agree with your sarcasm on this. I was actually going to start a thread about this but I will just jump in here.

I am new to the blu-ray world as we finally got one for Christmas. I was big into the HD DVD format, and that obviously did not last long. I waited and researched for over a year before buying the Panny 35 as it seems to have had the fewest issues with playback. My biggest concern with blu-ray was all the problems I read on this forum about discs not playing, or this disc freezing 10 minutes into the movie. I never even would've thought about load times as being problematic or an issue. I hit the harmony 880 on the remote and then go make some popcorn, get the candy ready, and then the player is ready to go. Throw in a movie, get a blanket, dim the lights, more salt on the popcorn & before you know it the movie is ready to go.

I just never have understood the big deal with load times. If you hit the power button as you start the stopwatch, then run to the computer to logon to bluray.com to boast how the PS3 is 2 or 10 or even 90 seconds faster than a standalone player, you have too much time on your hands in my opinion.

[Mr. HiDef]

Looks like I finally found my first Stand alone

[MoPe]

Originally Posted by jstute55

I agree with your sarcasm on this. I was actually going to start a thread about this but I will just jump in here.

I am new to the blu-ray world as we finally got one for Christmas. I was big into the HD DVD format, and that obviously did not last long. I waited and researched for over a year before buying the Panny 35 as it seems to have had the fewest issues with playback. My biggest concern with blu-ray was all the problems I read on this forum about discs not playing, or this disc freezing 10 minutes into the movie. I never even would've thought about load times as being problematic or an issue. I hit the harmony 880 on the remote and then go make some popcorn, get the candy ready, and then the player is ready to go. Throw in a movie, get a blanket, dim the lights, more salt on the popcorn & before you know it the movie is ready to go.

I just never have understood the big deal with load times. If you hit the power button as you start the stopwatch, then run to the computer to logon to bluray.com to boast how the PS3 is 2 or 10 or even 90 seconds faster than a standalone player, you have too much time on your hands in my opinion.

+1,000.