DTS Blu-ray

[tydw94]

Does anyone own a Blu-ray player that will docedes those new hd sounds, Dolbyhd or dtshd. and here's the killer for me Dlobytruehd, dtstruehd. What's up with that?

[tydw94]

to wickywoo, you might have a point as far as people with a hometheater system. But If it sounds better to you, WITCH WOULD YOU BUY?

[DaveFi]

Originally Posted by tydw94

Does anyone own a Blu-ray player that will docedes those new hd sounds, Dolbyhd or dtshd. and here's the killer for me Dlobytruehd, dtstruehd. What's up with that?

As have already mentioned, firstly you'll need a HDMI 1.1 receiver that can output lossless audio, after that, there are NO Blu-Ray players right now that can decode a DTS-MA lossless audio track fully, just the core. Widely suspected among the existing players the PS3 will be among the only ones powerfull enough to do it. All new players should be able to handle it.

As for Dolby TrueHD, the PS3 can decode it and a few others, not sure which.

[tydw94]

I think playing the waiting game might be safe for a person like me whose upgrading their home theater system. Its getting MESSY when it comes to those sound formats and what equipment will carry the decoders. (the players, the receivers, or the hdmi cables)

[tydw94]

dobyblue, Good specs man, But have you actually listen to both formats (hd dvd and blu-ray)?

[WickyWoo]

to wickywoo, you might have a point as far as people with a hometheater system. But If it sounds better to you, WITCH WOULD YOU BUY?

I'd ask you to do a double blind test on a title like Blade 2 where the tracks are from the same master, and I'll bet a dollar you can't tell me which one is DTS. And since people haven't been putting out a seperate DTS version of discs in years....

dobyblue, Good specs man, But have you actually listen to both formats (hd dvd and blu-ray)?

Since the technologies are virtually identical......

uncompressed PCM is the best, since there is no chance of decoding errors and achieves maximum compatibility, but doesn't sound any different in the end.

Typically they'll use DOlby Digital Plus or Dolby TrueHD on HD DVD titles. When those tracks are present on both discs, they're the same exact data, no differences, just a readjustment of how the data is stored. (my CD binder holds 8 discs per page while yours only does 6, but both binders still hold 500 discs in the end)

[IamNhobdy]

I like DTS, but that's mainly because my current reciever is not capable of utilizing PCM tracks. I still think I'll prefer DTSMA(or is it DTSHDMA? I don't feel like checking before I post this time.) to Dolby True HD. I'm just fine waiting for the high end decoders to come down in price. Until then I'll be satisfied with DTS & even Dolby.

However I do intend to upgrade my receiver within a year or so(business is slow. Anyone want to record a demo or liscense some music? hahaha) to either an Onkyo or more likely I'll keep it in the Sony family.... But something that can take full advantage of my PS3 and Blu-ray.


I HAVE heard PCM and I do prefer it to all the formats mentioned above in the post.

[WickyWoo]

I like DTS, but that's mainly because my current reciever is not capable of utilizing PCM tracks

Your reciever doesn't have analog ins?

[tydw94]

i will get back to you later (wickywoo), just got up and heading to get this 300. AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW IT SOUNDS

[tydw94]

I just finished watching 300 and I hate to say the picture sucks. What happen , and in shock of the Quality, I'm going to double check all my settings on my tv and ps3 and watch it again. MAYBE , keep my fingers cross, the picture will be better. Anyone seen it ? Tell me your opinion.

[ClaytonMG]

What sucks about the picture? Because it's grainy? You know that's what it's supposed to look like, right? One thing I did notice was that the bitrate of the Dolby TrueHD track actually drops below the bitrate of a DTS track... very odd they can do that and still have it be "lossless". And the PCM is louder, but that doesn't mean better.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by tydw94

dobyblue, Good specs man, But have you actually listen to both formats (hd dvd and blu-ray)?

formats has nothing to do with listening - hd dvd doesn't include lossless audio on enough of their releases to match the average sq that blu-ray gets

There are 154 Blu-ray titles in North America with lossless audio.
There are 43 HD DVD titles in North America with lossless audio.

The reviews from High Def Digest, Home Theater Spot, DVD Talk, Upcoming Discs and Home Theater Forum speak for themselves.

SQ Studio
4.38 Buena Vista
4.12 Sony
4.08 Fox
3.81 Lionsgate
3.81 Paramount
3.63 Warner
3.63 Universal
3.63 Weinstein

121 of the 284 Blu-ray titles currently available in North America have PCM. That's 42.6%

19 titles have 24-bit PCM.

24/96 PCM Chris Botti Live with Orchestra and Special Guests (Sony BMG)
24-PCM Apocalypto (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Bridge to Terabithia (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Bruce Springsteen with the Sessions Band: Live in Dublin (Sony BMG)
24-PCM Chicago (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Dinosaur (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Enemy of the State (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Finding Neverland (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Glory Road (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Gone in 60 Seconds (2000) (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Incubus: Alive at Red Rocks (Sony Music)
24-PCM Ladder 49 (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Pearl Harbor (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (Buena Vista)
24-PCM Primeval (Buena Vista)
24-PCM The Haunted Mansion (Buena Vista)
24-PCM The Prestige (Buena Vista)
24-PCM The Wild (Buena Vista)
PCM 300 (Warner)
PCM 50 First Dates (Sony)
PCM A Knight's Tale (Sony)
PCM All the King's Men (Sony)
PCM Annapolis (Buena Vista)
PCM Basic Instinct 2 (Sony)
PCM Big Fish (Sony)
PCM Black Hawk Down (Sony)
PCM Blood & Chocolate (Sony)
PCM Blood Diamond (Warner)
PCM Brothers Grimm (Buena Vista)
PCM Casanova (Buena Vista)
PCM Casino Royale (Sony)
PCM Catch & Release (Sony)
PCM Chicken Little (Buena Vista)
PCM Click (Sony)
PCM Closer (Sony)
PCM Crank (Lionsgate)
PCM Cruel Intentions (Sony)
PCM Curse of the Golden Flower (Sony)
PCM Daddy's Little Girls (Lionsgate)
PCM Dark Water (Buena Vista)
PCM Deja Vu (Buena Vista)
PCM Destiny's Child: Live in Atlanta (Sony BMG)
PCM Dirty Dancing (20th Anniversary Edition) (Lionsgate)
PCM Donnie Brasco (Sony)
PCM Eight Below (Buena Vista)
PCM Flatliners (Sony)
PCM Flightplan (Buena Vista)
PCM G.I. Jane (Buena Vista)
PCM Ghost Rider (Sony)
PCM Goal! The Dream Begins (Buena Vista)
PCM Gridiron Gang (Sony)
PCM Happily N'Ever After (Lionsgate Entetainment)
PCM Hellboy (Sony)
PCM Hitch (Sony)
PCM House of Flying Daggers (Sony)
PCM Identity (Sony)
PCM IMAX: Blue Planet (Warner)
PCM IMAX: Roving Mars (Disney)
PCM Into the Blue (Sony)
PCM Invincible (Buena Vista)
PCM Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (Buena Vista)
PCM John Legend: Live at the House of Blues (Sony Music)
PCM King Arthur Director's Cut (Buena Vista)
PCM Kung Fu Hustle (Sony)
PCM Layer Cake (Sony)
PCM Little Man (Sony)
PCM Memento (Sony)
PCM Monster House (Sony)
PCM Open Season (Sony)
PCM Premonition (Sony)
PCM Reign of Fire (Buena Vista)
PCM Rescue Me: The Complete Third Season (Sony)
PCM Resident Evil: Apocalypse (Sony)
PCM Revenge (Sony)
PCM Rocky Balboa (Sony)
PCM Running With Scissors (Sony)
PCM RV (Sony)
PCM S.W.A.T. (Sony)
PCM Secret Window (Sony)
PCM Seven Years in Tibet (Sony)
PCM Silent Hill (Sony)
PCM Sky High (Buena Vista)
PCM Species (MGM)
PCM Stealth (Sony)
PCM Stomp the Yard (Sony)
PCM Stranger Than Fiction (Sony)
PCM Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (Sony)
PCM Tears of the Sun (Sony)
PCM The Benchwarmers (Sony)
PCM The Big Hit (Sony)
PCM The Covenant (Sony)
PCM The Departed (Warner)
PCM The Descent (Lionsgate)
PCM The Fifth Element (Discontinued) (Sony)
PCM The Fifth Element (Remastered) (Sony)
PCM The Great Raid (Buena Vista)
PCM The Guardian (2006) (Buena Vista)
PCM The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Buena Vista)
PCM The Holiday (2006) (Sony)
PCM The Host (Magnolia)
PCM The Last Waltz (MGM)
PCM The Lost City (Magnolia)
PCM The Messengers (Sony)
PCM The Patriot (Extended Cut) (Sony)
PCM The Pursuit of Happyness (Sony)
PCM The Queen (Buena Vista)
PCM The Sopranos: Season Six, Part One (Warner)
PCM The Tailor of Panama (Sony)
PCM The Terminator (MGM)
PCM Tony Bennett: An American Classic (Sony Music)
PCM Ultimate Avengers Collection (Lionsgate)
PCM Ultraviolet (Sony)
PCM Underworld: Evolution (Sony)
PCM Vertical Limit (Sony)
PCM Volver (Sony)
PCM Waiting... (Lionsgate)
PCM Warriors of Heaven and Earth (Sony)
PCM Weeds: Season Two (Lionsgate)
PCM Wild Things (Sony)
PCM xXx (Sony)

[DTS-ES EXTREME]

BD & HD DVD they say in the beginning 7.1 DTS HD & Dolby True HD but still 2 or 3 movies that's it and Blockbusters nothing. for me the sound is NR1 & the video is NR2 the most movies are 5.1 Please Paramount pictures make transformers a special Audio track at least DTS ES or 5.1 EX (i hope for DTS 7.1 Master HD or PCM 7.1. bye the way for people that love's DTS-ES till now the best what i saw is RESIDENT EVIL APOCALYPSE DVD (HONG KONG VERSION) that's real 100% surround mixing.

[WickyWoo]

You'll get better, uncompressed PCM which beats out all others

[ClaytonMG]

Originally Posted by DTS-ES EXTREME

BD & HD DVD they say in the beginning 7.1 DTS HD & Dolby True HD but still 2 or 3 movies that's it and Blockbusters nothing. for me the sound is NR1 & the video is NR2 the most movies are 5.1 Please Paramount pictures make transformers a special Audio track at least DTS ES or 5.1 EX (i hope for DTS 7.1 Master HD or PCM 7.1. bye the way for people that love's DTS-ES till now the best what i saw is RESIDENT EVIL APOCALYPSE DVD (HONG KONG VERSION) that's real 100% surround mixing.

I don't understand most of that, but with Transformers there will be an uncompressed audio track. Possibly not on the HD-DVD, but it looks very promising for Blu-Ray...

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by DTS-ES EXTREME

BD & HD DVD they say in the beginning 7.1 DTS HD & Dolby True HD but still 2 or 3 movies that's it and Blockbusters nothing. for me the sound is NR1 & the video is NR2 the most movies are 5.1 Please Paramount pictures make transformers a special Audio track at least DTS ES or 5.1 EX (i hope for DTS 7.1 Master HD or PCM 7.1. bye the way for people that love's DTS-ES till now the best what i saw is RESIDENT EVIL APOCALYPSE DVD (HONG KONG VERSION) that's real 100% surround mixing.

There are already far better audio tracks available on Blu-ray than DTS:ES on DVD.

The Untouchables has a 3 Mbps DTS-HD 6.1 track
There have also been several 7.1 releases like Waiting, Ghost in the Shell 2 : Innocence, Weeds Season 2, Ultimate Avengers, etc.

I'd rather have 24/48 PCM in 5.1 than 16/48 PCM in 7.1 though. Disney's audio kicks ***. Their last 30 reviews AVERAGE out to a 4.5 star rating.