Avengers: Infinity War (2018) - SPOILER THREAD

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by goeagles5039

So maybe when Thanos snapped his finger they may have gone to the quantum realm?

I didn’t think of that, but would explain his convo with young Gamora on the water, immediately after the ‘click’

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by Groot

I was on reddit and an interesting theory came up.

After the *snap* Thanos is clearly in pain, his arm is absolutely messed up. It took a lot out of him to do what he did. It would take more than one Avenger to undo everything, costing them their lives.

Kinda like how Quill could somewhat wield a stone because he was half-a-god (at the time, probably still is but that's irrelevant cause he's ash) it would take the original's to hold onto the Gauntlet and reverse things?

The more I think about the ending, it isn't really a cop out. Tony isn't sitting in mourning, he's in thought and angered by what he just witnessed. He has to fix this, he blames himself for it. The ending isn't about knowing the others return, but what it did to those who lived.

I did find it odd how the OG Avengers all remained, unwithered or turned to ash... though why did Strange give up his stone? Wtf was that about? Unless it was supposed to happen like that so that’s the one time of the 14 billion, that they defeat Thanos? Maybe in that version of the future, the Avengers had to lose in order to win in the end?

Quantum realm sounds plausible, especially considering Ant-Man already visited

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by Himmel

RED SKULL

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For a second, before he spoke, I thought it was Lady Death.... with the same soul for the soul gem trade(kinda saw that a mile off. Same with gamora dying, being the only one he ever cared for)

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by aiman04

We love it. But my wife says that’s a lame cliffhanger. Thanos can just reverse time again and undo what he did. Gamora is the key. But I don’t know anything about these comic book films. I’ll say this, I guarantee that no one will feel anything about all the deaths at the ending.

Just one thing about the post-credit scene, who was Fury sending the message to?

Why would he undo his life’ds goal and belief of balance? It’s a heavy price to pay, but he was willing to pay it, on the strength of his belief and convictions

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Why didn't Fury called in Captain Marvel in the first Avengers movie?

Cos every was working on an earth based Avengers Initiative?

infinity War is vastly bigger threat, but he knew all along the Avengers could handle shit in the first movie.

Plus i guess she is busy in space, like how the Guardians are off in their own corners of space.

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by Vandal Savage

Agents of SHIELD and the Netflix series think they're MCU canon, but when they walk up to the movies, the movies are like "Who are you?"

They're canon, but in an extended universe type of way. And while they will reference events from the movies, it's a one way deal, as I doubt the movies will ever directly reference something from the TV shows.

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

Avengers 4 title won't be revealed for quite awhile...

We don’t need it.
We know it’ll deal with the Fallout of Infinity War

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by testmon112

Marvel have done a great job on spoilers, I've watched most of the spots and I still don't know what's going to happen.

They omit a few thing in trailers too ie Thano having 2 instead of the actual stone when Cap is holding/pushing back on the Gauntlet

[yeslek]

One question that bugging me though...why did Strange give up his stone so easy?
Are we to assume he knew he had to sacrifice it as Stark is the key to undoing or course correcting it? Basically defeating Thanos in the long run.

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

He said giving up the Time Stone "was the only way," so yes, I think there will be more to Strange rescuing Tony and giving up the Time Stone, as well as that line where Strange tells Tony if he has to pick between saving Tony and Peter or the Stone, he'll save the Stone and let them both die.

Then we'll find out the why of why Strange gave it up seemingly without a fight in Avengers 4. There's definitely a reason for it.

Strange mentions 14+ million universes where they lose and only one where they win, so I'm guessing the one where they win had a point where Strange allowed Thanos to gain possession of the Time Stone.

That what I assumed, but it still seemed like a sudden and drastic change of heart in the heat of moment at least

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

Strange meant what he said when he'd let Tony or Peter die if it came between them or the Stone. Even with Tony saving him as a "professional courtesy," Strange wouldn't give up the Time Stone just to save Tony.

I definitely expect giving up the Stone and Strange's words about "it was the only way" will prove to be a pivotal point once Avengers 4 comes around. Something about it will prove key in saving the day and fixing things.

Hope so, else that’s going to be one gaping big flaw for me

[L-Rouge]

Spoiler Warning

This film really finishes with an unusual energy of "how does this resolve itself" and a certain degree of "Pessimism" which ultimately is rather unique in the franchise since most films leave with an overall feeling of "mission accomplished".

The film is perfectly balanced, with smart direction and handling of all characters, some ensemble movies fail to give breath to all element and struggle to balance the minutiae. But this is not the case with this movie I tended to appreciate the cut aways to the objectives of the different casts. the split Avengers, the Guardians of the Galaxy. On top of that, even the humour becomes welcome relief.

Thor's expression of sympathy towards Gamora and her Father issues, as an example, was both unexpected but also an immediate recall to his own in-family joke from the first Avengers.

Thanos has presence YAYYY and has somewhat of an existential issue with his own emotions. I never saw that coming, I'll be honest...or maybe I should have when family matters are concerned. Thanos transcends his digital avatar to be an existing being, I was really impressed, better than most generic villians we have seen in-house.

With regard to "how does this resolve itself " I am ambivalent on this because moments and actions that transpire with the cast were decidedly left field and I wish some things lay as they rest.

But we know the functions and properties of each Infinity stone and all such matters can be undone within an instant, so with that in mind and the absolute grief that transpires, it all seems too drastic to maintain the status quo. So catastrophic are the events that take place, there is just no way this is going to end on this level

So some how of course this is going to be rectified an 12 months time, lol.

I mean ...alright Ill use spoiler tags

[Show spoiler] There is just no way that Nick Fury is gonsky not before finishing his famous expletive

I could be wrong too. lets hope the sequel leaves a few surprise gems.

4.75/5.

[yeslek]

Didn’t the comics recon the massive elements of destruction?
If things are undone, they would only be remaining faithful to source materials.

Though there are theories I’ve read regarding the multiverse, or an MCU equivalent - the half that ‘died’ were sent alternate universes - so a Spidey-verse? Strange could be n ANY dimension? For example

Or the quantum realm could crop up somehow.

We distinctly see the characters evaporate and float into, as far as we’re concerned, nothingness. It looks like the particles of their being, are ‘travelling’ almost. We don’t just seem then drop dead, where we saw dead bodies of Asgardians an Zen-Whoberi when half of each race/species were wiped out by Thanos.
That Gauntlet, and stone, I don’t believe, kills, in the same way at least. To me it appears to, displace or remove, elements of the universe. Red Skull being prime example of displacement assumed as death.

[L-Rouge]

It is quite possible mate, I really don't follow marvel comics at all. So an absolute fan will transcript the two movies easily haha.

Dimension exploration has huge potential in the sequel.

[yeslek]

I’ve only read a handful of comics, often based around groups of characters ie Guardians and Thanos series(due to obv connection) and read the InfiitynWar/Gauntlet series way back when Guardians movie had barley been announced

Or particular faves ie Iron Man(not read all, or even much. Just some classics such as Extremis, Demon in a bottle or stuff since Civil. War mostly. Read moat of Jessica’s Jones’s and Inhumans stuff.

Otherwise it depends what digital, GN or comic Vol’s are on sale for £2.99 on the Marvel app

Am still a bit new but slowly opening the world up

[testmon112]

It's wasn't the type of film emotionally I expected it was going to be. It was hard to attach yourself emotionally in parts due to the wicked pace and tonal changes. The fact that they had to cover so many story beats it does difficult to build emotional heft and let scenes breath in between the spectacle. There was a touching scene between Thor and Rocket which is one of the few sections the film slows down to give Thor his moment of vulnerability. I thought Cap would go out in a blaze of glory like Boromir in LOTR but it wasn't 'his' story or 'The Avengers' per say, it was Thanos himself. If you view it from that particular angle it begins to make sense having his perspective being at the center of the film.

However, because of that 'The Avengers' themselves become the backdrop for Thanos's mission to balance the universe, which is quite different from previous Avengers films. He shares a moment to just mediate on completing his 'mission' that's played subdued by Brolin (who is a highlight). I guess Marvel was bullshitting when they suggested this was not Part 1 of a 2 parter but they certainly delivered on the 'War' part.

The ending scene with the SNAP! moment replicated on screen, I thought it was really smart of the Russo Brothers to allow the repercussions of that particular moment to breath for a bit, rather that just cutting to black on the snap. It's one of the instances where the film succeeds in provoking real emotional stakes. One of the big issues of this film I sense is that due to the nature of the cliffhanger ending, Avengers 4 will dictate whether or not we look back on this entry in a positive light or a negative light.

Highlights:
-Return to Wakanda (The crowd went wild)
-Thanos vs Hulk
-Thor & The Guardians scenes
-Scarlet Witch power-up vs Proxima Midnight.
-Thor's return with Stormbreaker.
-Peter dying in Tony's arms.
-Vision's brutal death at the hands of Thanos.
-Drax comedic moments ("You're imitating the God-Man.")

Finally, can some explain how Cap held the gauntlet? That was so cool.

[ltb2.0]

Loved everything but the tag at the end. That was a wasted scene I think.

Also loved the soundtrack so much I ordered right after getting home.

Definitely a top 5 Marvel movie for me.

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by testmon112

It's wasn't the type of film emotionally I expected it was going to be. It was hard to attach yourself emotionally in parts due to the wicked pace and tonal changes. The fact that they had to cover so many story beats it does difficult to build emotional heft and let scenes breath in between the spectacle. There was a touching scene between Thor and Rocket which is one of the few sections the film slows down to give Thor his moment of vulnerability. I thought Cap would go out in a blaze of glory like Boromir in LOTR but it wasn't 'his' story or 'The Avengers' per say, it was Thanos himself. If you view it from that particular angle it begins to make sense having his perspective being at the center of the film.

However, because of that 'The Avengers' themselves become the backdrop for Thanos's mission to balance the universe, which is quite different from previous Avengers films. He shares a moment to just mediate on completing his 'mission' that's played subdued by Brolin (who is a highlight). I guess Marvel was bullshitting when they suggested this was not Part 1 of a 2 parter but they certainly delivered on the 'War' part.

The ending scene with the SNAP! moment replicated on screen, I thought it was really smart of the Russo Brothers to allow the repercussions of that particular moment to breath for a bit, rather that just cutting to black on the snap. It's one of the instances where the film succeeds in provoking real emotional stakes. One of the big issues of this film I sense is that due to the nature of the cliffhanger ending, Avengers 4 will dictate whether or not we look back on this entry in a positive light or a negative light.

Highlights:
-Return to Wakanda (The crowd went wild)
-Thanos vs Hulk
-Thor & The Guardians scenes
-Scarlet Witch power-up vs Proxima Midnight.
-Thor's return with Stormbreaker.
-Peter dying in Tony's arms.
-Vision's brutal death at the hands of Thanos.
-Drax comedic moments ("You're imitating the God-Man.")

Finally, can some explain how Cap held the gauntlet? That was so cool.

I disagree.
I as engrossed and totally invested in each character before the movie started. I found myself concerned with who’s would make it out alive and why.

The characters were already familiar so they didn’t need to win you over in this one IMO.


I do with you in regards to how the ‘Snap’ ending was handled. I didn’t think they would have the balls to do that in the movie.

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by ltb2.0

Loved everything but the tag at the end. That was a wasted scene I think.

Also loved the soundtrack so much I ordered right after getting home.

Definitely a top 5 Marvel movie for me.

The ‘Thanos will return’ tag or the post-credits scene?
Or both?

I honesty expected there to be no post-credits scene, considering how plain and subdued the credits were, and with no mid-credits scene.
All palin white text, on black background with simple, atmospheric score....kind of gave you chance to just sit and process all you have just scene and the mess that’s left. More importantly, the fact that, they lost! The Avengers ****ing failed. Not just in saving the world, but half the universe was blinked away due to their failure,
I hope these aspects, along with how the remaining characters deal with the losses - poor Tony is just getting battered in the MCU, what with the anxiety, Ultron, Civil War and now losing Peter, who he was SO protective of...he couldn’t do anything whilst Parker was begging for help, for his life, reminding you he’s just a scared kid.
Same, to a point, with Cap. He is a man who makes he ‘sacrifice play’ if it comes to it. Evil must be dealt with, full stop. But he failed. Lost Bucky all over again, is an outlaw who couldn’t do the one thing that’s so inherent in his character - save the innocent and good people from big bad bully evil....those two could have really interesting character arc’s(to bow out on?) in A4.
I think there will also be a LOT of survivors guilt too. Could make a great story if A4 is a means of ‘how do they recover and deal with it all’ but I fear we’ll likely get a movie focusing on ‘how do we fix it?’

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by yeslek

I did find it odd how the OG Avengers all remained, unwithered or turned to ash... though why did Strange give up his stone? Wtf was that about? Unless it was supposed to happen like that so that’s the one time of the 14 billion, that they defeat Thanos? Maybe in that version of the future, the Avengers had to lose in order to win in the end?

Quantum realm sounds plausible, especially considering Ant-Man already visited

Pretty much the point of doing that was the original team gets back for one last mission Together before the new team takes over in the next phase

[Scorpion Soldier]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

Strange meant what he said when he'd let Tony or Peter die if it came between them or the Stone. Even with Tony saving him as a "professional courtesy," Strange wouldn't give up the Time Stone just to save Tony.

I definitely expect giving up the Stone and Strange's words about "it was the only way" will prove to be a pivotal point once Avengers 4 comes around. Something about it will prove key in saving the day and fixing things.

This is my take as well. Strange saw all these possibilities and maybe undoing the damage done in the end is the course of action that was taken in the universe where they won, rather than preventing it.

With his guard down, the team has a chance to reverse what's happened with the stones, though the world they'll return to in Avengers 4 is unlikely to be the exact same as it was.