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A Sith Lord? · 05-04-2018, 10:20 PM

Kilmonger was an exceptional villain.

As was Vulture.

Optimus-Prime-Rox · 05-04-2018, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Makarov

Thanos could beat the hulk without the stones IMO

Who knows, If Hulk could actually learn to fight instead of just Hulk Smash, he might have faired better against Thanos. Thanos is like Chuck Norris, he knows various fighting styles and how to take out his opponents very easily, while Hulk is like the drunken hotthead and uses all his power in all the wrong ways since he isn't thinking clearly. A little smashing may get the job done against some of Hulk's opponents but doesn't go very far against the ones who can actually fight.

jayman3 · 05-04-2018, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Only because Marvel dumb down all those other villains to make Thanos look good. But no, seriously. Marvel should treat ALL their villains equally. I don't like this mentally of half-assing all of these other villains and only caring about this one. Like when Marvel was promoting Age of Ultron at Comic Con, they brought in Josh Brolin as a special surprise. And I'm like, why would they have Josh Brolin come in and steal Ultron's thunder? Isn't Age of Ultron Ultron's movie? Not to mention the fact that the Russos keep comparing Thanos to Darth Vader and how Kevin Feige says Thanos is the best villain way before Infinity War came out. So clearly, their minds is at making one villain truly great. So sorry if I want all my villains to be great.

At least it took them ten years to finally get Thor right. Dude took a f*cking dying star to the chest and lived.

He's more powerful/stronger than Thanos because Thor brought him down to his knees with Stormbreaker when he plunged it through Thanos' chest.

kylor · 05-04-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Only because Marvel dumb down all those other villains to make Thanos look good. But no, seriously. Marvel should treat ALL their villains equally. I don't like this mentally of half-assing all of these other villains and only caring about this one. Like when Marvel was promoting Age of Ultron at Comic Con, they brought in Josh Brolin as a special surprise. And I'm like, why would they have Josh Brolin come in and steal Ultron's thunder? Isn't Age of Ultron Ultron's movie? Not to mention the fact that the Russos keep comparing Thanos to Darth Vader and how Kevin Feige says Thanos is the best villain way before Infinity War came out. So clearly, their minds is at making one villain truly great. So sorry if I want all my villains to be great.

And yet people actually like how they treated The Mandarin in Iron Man 3. What a major letdown for a potentially awesome villain.

You know what the worst part is? Even LEGO made the villain better than the movie did -- from it's own merchandise!

atomicreplicant · 05-04-2018, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by A Sith Lord?

Kilmonger was an exceptional villain.

As was Vulture.

The recent MCU villains have been great.

Batmon77 · 05-04-2018, 10:43 PM

In the long run a real Mandarin with Ten Rings of alien power would have made Thanos less impressive.

jerichod · 05-04-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by atomicreplicant

The recent MCU villains have been great.

Hela was great, Thor basically had to give up even after his power within realization.

Batmon77 · 05-04-2018, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jayman3

I don't understand you sometimes. All you do is find things to complain about when it comes to MCU movies.

Thanos is by far the most powerful, three dimensional villain in all of the MCU. He is miles better than the countless, underdeveloped and completely forgettable villains of Marvel films past.

Zemos motivation was clear, was well thought out,executed, and still has impact of the state of the team up through IW.

The whole MCU villain criticism is cliche.

There have been more good antagonists than bad.

CyberpunkCentral · 05-04-2018, 10:51 PM

Recent MCU villains have only been good lately because Marvel Studios is starting to take the criticism of weak villains seriously. Kevin Feige even addressed this before.

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In the long run a real Mandarin with Ten Rings of alien power would have made Thanos less impressive.

Bingo!

Groot · 05-04-2018, 10:56 PM

That's just like, your opinion, man.

I haven't hated a single villain in these movies. I'm even down with Justin Hammer dancing his ass around a stage to mess with Tony as an okay thing to watch.

kylor · 05-04-2018, 10:56 PM

So now it boils down to "The villain in this movie has to be garbage to make another villain good in that movie." Well, R.I.P. Iron Man 3.

Groot · 05-04-2018, 11:05 PM

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So now it boils down to "The villain in this movie has to be garbage to make another villain good in that movie." Well, R.I.P. Iron Man 3.

Iron Man 3 is "mild" garbage for reasons outside the villain.

Creed · 05-04-2018, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmon77

Zemos motivation was clear, was well thought out,executed, and still has impact of the state of the team up through IW.

The whole MCU villain criticism is cliche.

There have been more good antagonists than bad.

THIS.

Him, Hela, Kilmonger, Red Skull, Thanos and Vulture (from what I've seen) are great villains. Even the baddie from Doctor Strange is good.

jayman3 · 05-04-2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmon77

Zemos motivation was clear, was well thought out,executed, and still has impact of the state of the team up through IW.

The whole MCU villain criticism is cliche.

There have been more good antagonists than bad.

True. Zemo tore the Avengers apart more than Ultron could have possibly imagined

CyberpunkCentral · 05-04-2018, 11:13 PM

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Even the baddie from Doctor Strange is good.

Which one? You talking about Mads Mikkelsen's character? I guess. I'm spoiled by his performance as Hannibal Lecter.

Creed · 05-04-2018, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Which one? You talking about Mads Mikkelsen's character? I guess. I'm spoiled by his performance as Hannibal Lecter.

Yeah, him. At least he had a clear motivation.

Been wanting to see Hannibal for a while. A lot of things to watch.

jayman3 · 05-04-2018, 11:18 PM

All of the Phase 3 villains have been great. Why you ask? Because Marvel made them sympathetic. They had good intentions with bad actions. Their goals were relatable. It made you sympathize with them.

CyberpunkCentral · 05-04-2018, 11:24 PM

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Yeah, him. At least he had a clear motivation.

Been wanting to see Hannibal for a while. A lot of things to watch.

You have to watch Hannibal. I say this a lot, but it makes The Silence of the Lambs look like child's play by comparison. Mads Mikkelsen easily tops Sir Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter. People say the best villains are the ones who are sympathetic and understand their motives. Not Mads Mikkelsen's Hannibal Lecter, though. He is evil as f***, yet you still root for him more than any other character on the show. Now THAT'S what a great villain does.

InuYashaCrusade · 05-04-2018, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jayman3

All of the Phase 3 villains have been great. Why you ask? Because Marvel made them sympathetic. They had good intentions with bad actions. Their goals were relatable. It made you sympathize with them.

Phase 3 has been amazing. The only movie in phase 3 that I'm iffy about is Guardians 2, but I still rewatch it frequently. I'm not big on Black Panther either but I can still see why it has become a fan favorite.

Gamma_Winstead · 05-04-2018, 11:30 PM

Vulture, Killmonger, Hela and Thanos are getting all the love, but Ego was damn good too.

05-04-2018, 10:20 PM	#2581
A Sith Lord? Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2012 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:575 DVD collection:30 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1272 Trading Score:49	Kilmonger was an exceptional villain. As was Vulture.

05-04-2018, 10:43 PM	#2586
Batmon77 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2011 Location:New York City 4K collection:13 Blu-ray collection:428 DVD collection:1	In the long run a real Mandarin with Ten Rings of alien power would have made Thanos less impressive.

05-04-2018, 10:56 PM	#2590
Groot Banned Member since:Aug 2015 Location:Thanos Cock Trading Score:14	That's just like, your opinion, man. I haven't hated a single villain in these movies. I'm even down with Justin Hammer dancing his ass around a stage to mess with Tony as an okay thing to watch.

05-04-2018, 10:56 PM	#2591
kylor Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2015 Location:The past.. or the future. 4K collection:696 Blu-ray collection:7101 DVD collection:620 MA collection:1030 Digital collection:2058 Trading Score:3	So now it boils down to "The villain in this movie has to be garbage to make another villain good in that movie." Well, R.I.P. Iron Man 3.

05-04-2018, 11:18 PM	#2597
jayman3 Banned Top contributor Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Orlando, FL	All of the Phase 3 villains have been great. Why you ask? Because Marvel made them sympathetic. They had good intentions with bad actions. Their goals were relatable. It made you sympathize with them.

05-04-2018, 11:30 PM	#2600
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	Vulture, Killmonger, Hela and Thanos are getting all the love, but Ego was damn good too.

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