List of 70mm films on Bluray?

[Uberbot]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

Here is a list of films produced in the West using 70mm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_70_mm_films

The ones out on Blu (or coming soon):

South Pacific
Battle of the Bulge
2001: A Space Odyssey
Patton
Baraka

Films partially shot in 70mm on Blu:
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (effects shots)
Blade Runner (effects shots)

The Dark Knight was partially shot on IMAX cameras, which use 70mm film stock but is considered a different format.

Thank you! I knew there had to be a list! Now I only wish I were more of a fan of the classic films.

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by Uberbot

Thank you! I knew there had to be a list! Now I only wish I were more of a fan of the classic films.

For 70mm, you almost have to be because it is so rarely used today. The format's heydey was the 1960s.

There are a few 70mm films that absolute scream for BD releases:

Ben Hur
Lawrence of Arabia
West Side Story
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World - (assuming they do a proper restoration).
Grand Prix
Hamlet (Branagh)

[Uberbot]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

For 70mm, you almost have to be because it is so rarely used today. The format's heydey was the 1960s.

You would think with the HD revolution that filmmakers would start to rediscover 70mm. The level of texture and clarity is vastly superior.

I've heard Nolan wants to film the next Batman movie 100% IMAX.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

For 70mm, you almost have to be because it is so rarely used today. The format's heydey was the 1960s.

There are a few 70mm films that absolute scream for BD releases:

Ben Hur
Lawrence of Arabia
West Side Story
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World - (assuming they do a proper restoration).
Grand Prix
Hamlet (Branagh)

The HDNet Movies broadcast of these looked stunning

doh! how could I have forgotten Grand Prix - another HD-DVD only release from Warners that needs a bluray release.

Originally Posted by Uberbot

You would think with the HD revolution that filmmakers would start to rediscover 70mm. The level of texture and clarity is vastly superior.

I've heard Nolan wants to film the next Batman movie 100% IMAX.

given how much money Warner's made from The Dark Knight - fronting the budget to do a complete feature length film in IMAX is not out of the question. If not IMAX, at least bring back actual filming with 65mm cameras/film. With the success of the IMAX editions of TDK, Bay has filmed select scenes with IMAX cameras for Transformers 2. IMAX is traditionally much more expensive than 35mm, however the middle ground with 70mm cameras makes much more sense.

Given how much acclaim the bluray edition of Baraka is getting, you'd think the release of more 70mm films on bluray would be coming down the pipeline. (fingers crossed) Speaking of Ron Fricke, if you don't know this already his next 70mm opus is coming out sometime this year, Samsara.

[Lyle_JP]

I'm surprised that shooting in Iwerks never took off. Iwerks, like traditional "70mm photography", uses 65mm fed vertically through a camera, but it uses 8 sprocket holes instead of 5, yielding 60% more film real estate and an aspect ratio of about 1.39:1 (very close to IMAX's 1.44:1). It would blow up to IMAX much better than Super35 or even anamorphic 35. And it could be contact-printed directly to 70mm instead of being optically enlarged or reduced, yielding fantastic looking 70mm prints for non-IMAX engagements. Finally, it would be twice as cheap to shoot with it versus IMAX.

[Pirate King]

I have a couple of questions, because I do not fully understand. I do know the difference between 70mm and 35mm and the advantages of 70mm. However, here is my questions...

Sleeping Beauty, was filmed in 35mm but there were 70mm prints... How does that affect the PQ?

Also, films like Becket, (Filmed in 35mm) also had what they call 70mm blow up prints..

And yes yes yes, lets have a Blu of Its a Mad Mad Mad Mad World, the complete 192 min original version.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by Pirate King

Sleeping Beauty, was filmed in 35mm but there were 70mm prints... How does that affect the PQ?

Well, "filmed" in 35mm doesn't tell the whole story. It was photographed onto Black and White VistaVision film (which is 35mm fed sideways through the camera) with an anamorphic lens and with each frame being shot three times through filters; once for blue, red, and and green. So while the negatives are technically 35mm, they're not anything that could be "watched" through a projector.

Originally Posted by Pirate King

Also, films like Becket, (Filmed in 35mm) also had what they call 70mm blow up prints..

This was common until the early 90s. Before the wide acceptance of digital sound, 70mm was the only way to experience 6-channel sound (in either 4.2 or 5.1 channel configurations). DTS and Dolby Digital put an end to blowing up 35mm to 70mm.

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

given how much money Warner's made from The Dark Knight - fronting the budget to do a complete feature length film in IMAX is not out of the question. If not IMAX, at least bring back actual filming with 65mm cameras/film. With the success of the IMAX editions of TDK, Bay has filmed select scenes with IMAX cameras for Transformers 2. IMAX is traditionally much more expensive than 35mm, however the middle ground with 70mm cameras makes much more sense.

Not really going to happen. Adding 70mm filming process to standard movies adds a lot of money to the production budget, there is the complicated set ups, processing etc. In the Dark Knight, the production crew destroyed a $300,000 IMAX camera while making it.

Christopher Nolan's 70mm Batman stuff is a real one-off, the tremendous cost of producing and then simply making a film print in 70mm or IMAX is why it just won't happen.

It generally costs $25,000 for a 2D IMAX print and up to $45,000 for 3D print. Add in the cost of shipping, putting the film together etc, and it could take weeks to gross the money back.

I like the idea of IMAX 70mm but The Dark Knight Rises might the last we see of it.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Not really going to happen. Adding 70mm filming process to standard movies adds a lot of money to the production budget, there is the complicated set ups, processing etc. In the Dark Knight, the production crew destroyed a $300,000 IMAX camera while making it.

Christopher Nolan's 70mm Batman stuff is a real one-off, the tremendous cost of producing and then simply making a film print in 70mm or IMAX is why it just won't happen.

It generally costs $25,000 for a 2D IMAX print and up to $45,000 for 3D print. Add in the cost of shipping, putting the film together etc, and it could take weeks to gross the money back.

I like the idea of IMAX 70mm but The Dark Knight Rises might the last we see of it.

there is next year's Star Trek sequel that had select scenes shot in IMAX 15/70, as with some reported news that two major scenes from the upcoming "Hunger Games: Catching Fire' being shot in 15/70 IMAX

and considering that P.T. Anderson's latest film 'The Master' was completely shot in 65mm I'm surprised there hasn't been any announcements if the Weinstein's wont strike a dozen or so prints as such for distribution.

I think that Brad Bird came across as completely stupid for not letting Paramount or us the consumer in not choosing a bluray edition of 'Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol' with the IMAX shot scenes in semi-full 1.78 framing - what's the point of shooting something in IMAX and not try to replicate it on home theater to it's best potential ??

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

there is next year's Star Trek sequel that had select scenes shot in IMAX 15/70, as with some reported news that two major scenes from the upcoming "Hunger Games: Catching Fire' being shot in 15/70 IMAX

and considering that P.T. Anderson's latest film 'The Master' was completely shot in 65mm I'm surprised there hasn't been any announcements if the Weinstein's wont strike a dozen or so prints as such for distribution.

I think that Brad Bird came across as completely stupid for not letting Paramount or us the consumer in not choosing a bluray edition of 'Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol' with the IMAX shot scenes in semi-full 1.78 framing - what's the point of shooting something in IMAX and not try to replicate it on home theater to it's best potential ??

What I mean was that the days of projecting 70mm in the theatres are going to very numbered after the The Dark Knight Rises. They will probably use the cameras for filming for a while but Hunger Games or Star Trek won't get a release of 80+ 70mm IMAX venues, up until just recently, there have been a number of theatres that have been getting 15/70 IMAX print regularly, many of these have changed over to digital.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

there is next year's Star Trek sequel that had select scenes shot in IMAX 15/70, as with some reported news that two major scenes from the upcoming "Hunger Games: Catching Fire' being shot in 15/70 IMAX

and considering that P.T. Anderson's latest film 'The Master' was completely shot in 65mm I'm surprised there hasn't been any announcements if the Weinstein's wont strike a dozen or so prints as such for distribution.

I think that Brad Bird came across as completely stupid for not letting Paramount or us the consumer in not choosing a bluray edition of 'Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol' with the IMAX shot scenes in semi-full 1.78 framing - what's the point of shooting something in IMAX and not try to replicate it on home theater to it's best potential ??

its a supposed rumor over at in70mm.com, but I found this little tidbit:

"The classic Village Theatre, in the Westwood Village/west Los Angeles area of L.A. is reported to be in view as a site for a 70mm run of the new film from Paul Thomas Anderson (PT Anderson), "The Master". Although the Village hasn't run a 70mm print for many years, a 70mm conversion kit for their venerable Norelco/Philips DP70 has been tracked down, and, pending final decisions and arrangements, it seems likely that L.A. will have its first commercial engagement of a new movie, presented "in the splendor of 70mm" in many years (last known previous one was "Hamlet", back in December 1996)."

(oh please send it our way to the AFI Silver)