Justice League 4K UHD (2017)

[Geoff D]

I think there's less of a focus on some kind of 'universe' and more of a focus on the individual movies that are coming up. Not a bad thing IMO.

[breadordecide]

Originally Posted by cynatnite

The only big complaint I really have was Superman's costume. It just looked so fake on him, especially in the beginning with the cellphone video. Batman's did, too, but Superman's looked really bad to me.

His suit was replaced, I believe originally he had the black and silver suit for the ending in the Snyder cut. Whedon went blue and red for an instant win with audiences, not to mention the original theme music playing when he appears.

[Dragon Ranger]

Originally Posted by breadordecide

His suit was replaced, I believe originally he had the black and silver suit for the ending in the Snyder cut. Whedon went blue and red for an instant win with audiences, not to mention the original theme music playing when he appears.

In the deleted scenes he walks past the black suit but does not choose it. This was shot by Snyder not Whedon. So he would never have worn it in any version of the movie.

[breadordecide]

Originally Posted by legends of beyond

I understand what the Martha scene means. The idea is good, really good even. The execution is just so bad though.

I think this is the right answer. The intent is good, the idea is good, but they didn't execute properly.

This is Snyder's weakness, his ambition can sometimes outmatch his talents and skills. He's a visual director, when he relies on them he can get a lot across. Much like his intro scenes to Sucker Punch and Watchmen. He needs to rely less on dialogue. BVS is dialogue heavy and is a poor effort. His visual moments are grand and I find them almost hypnotically beautiful.

[Dragon Ranger]

Originally Posted by TheBoss062

So what is the future of the DCEU after this film's disappointment? Hope it's not cancelled.

Aquaman is due for release later this year and Shazam is currently shooting. Rumours are Man of Steel 2 will be announced soon and Margot Robbie confirmed Birds of Prey is still being worked on. DC also have New Gods in active development so there are plenty of DC movies still to come.

[breadordecide]

Originally Posted by Dragon Ranger

In the deleted scenes he walks past the black suit but does not choose it. This was shot by Snyder not Whedon. So he would never have worn it in any version of the movie.

Cavil teased the black suit on twitter awhile back. Snyder loves to copy moments and costumes from the comics. Killing superman and bringing him back in the black and silver would have been a classic Snyder move. I don't think that deleted scene tells the whole story. And the fake look of the CGI suit would be explained if they had to change it from the black one to the red and blue one. This is all speculation, I don't think we'll ever know what Snyders true cut of the film would have been.

[Dragon Ranger]

Originally Posted by breadordecide

Cavil teased the black suit on twitter awhile back. Snyder loves to copy moments and costumes from the comics. Killing superman and bringing him back in the black and silver would have been a classic Snyder move. I don't think that deleted scene tells the whole story. And the fake look of the CGI suit would be explained if they had to change it from the black one to the red and blue one. This is all speculation, I don't think we'll ever know what Snyders true cut of the film would have been.

Here's what Zack had to say when asked by a fan on social media.

http://comicbook.com/dc/2018/02/25/s...t-zack-snyder/

[mlabonte21]

Originally Posted by breadordecide

His suit was replaced, I believe originally he had the black and silver suit for the ending in the Snyder cut. Whedon went blue and red for an instant win with audiences, not to mention the original theme music playing when he appears.

They totally wimped-out with the Superman theme.

Prior to release I kept hearing "They're gonna use the Williams theme!!"

Then when it comes in the movie it lasts 2.5 seconds and you can barely hear it

Seriously? Theres so much they could have done:

Scene:

JL is starting to get their butts kicked.

(Cue Music) "Dun dun dun..." (trees blowing by)

Batman being subdued.

(More music) Dun dun dun, dun dun dun (blur streak in the sky)

Wonder Woman being subdued

(Louder Music) DUN DUN DUN DAHHHHH (Pair of red boots hit the ground)

Superman: "Need a hand?" or whatever some quippy line and then BOOM-- Superman starts kicking ass.

Why is this such a difficult thing to do??

[worldchmps]

What’s the chance the price of the 4k drops to under $19.99 within the next year or six months? Trying o decide if the 4k at $19.99 is a good price or not.

[imsounoriginal]

$19.99 is probably the best price you'll see before the holidays.

[woodley56]

It will probably be $9.99 on Black Friday, similar to WW last year and BvS the year before...

[meatball_84]

Originally Posted by breadordecide

His suit was replaced, I believe originally he had the black and silver suit for the ending in the Snyder cut. Whedon went blue and red for an instant win with audiences, not to mention the original theme music playing when he appears.

This is likely not true. From what we have learned, Snyder planned to use the black suit, but after BvS Warner Bros refused as it would be "too dark". So it got relegated to a cameo in the one deleted scene we saw it in.

The truth of why the blue and red suit looks like trash is actually much more simple.

The costumes, including their colors, materials, and added padding are designed with the camera, effects, and color timing all calculated in. So the suit is exactly the same one Snyder filmed, but Whedon brightened the colors and overall brightness of the film. When this was done, the chrome pieces under the blue "skin" became visible, and WB just didnt care anymore. Looking at the Superman and Alfred scene, the chrome is much less visible since it is color corrected by Snyder. If we get the Snyder cut, it will look much better, that is for sure.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by mlabonte21

They totally wimped-out with the Superman theme.

Prior to release I kept hearing "They're gonna use the Williams theme!!"

Then when it comes in the movie it lasts 2.5 seconds and you can barely hear it

Seriously? Theres so much they could have done:

Scene:

JL is starting to get their butts kicked.

(Cue Music) "Dun dun dun..." (trees blowing by)

Batman being subdued.

(More music) Dun dun dun, dun dun dun (blur streak in the sky)

Wonder Woman being subdued

(Louder Music) DUN DUN DUN DAHHHHH (Pair of red boots hit the ground)

Superman: "Need a hand?" or whatever some quippy line and then BOOM-- Superman starts kicking ass.

Why is this such a difficult thing to do??

That would be difficult to do because it's terrible. Thank God they didn't do that.

[RockyIII]

Is it me or did they put very little effort in molding the villain? He is even worse than the white orc of The Hobbit

[RockyIII]

Is it me or did they put very little effort in molding the villain? He is even worse than the white orc of The Hobbit

[Dragon Ranger]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Is it me or did they put very little effort in molding the villain? He is even worse than the white orc of The Hobbit

Rumours are there are lots more scenes featuring Steppenwolf and his motivations but they are on the cutting room floor after Whedon and Warner Bros hacked the movie to pieces to make it less than two hours. The studio wanted the run time shorter for more showings not realising the film was going to get horrible reviews and awful word of mouth even though they knew they were alienating a large portion of the established fanbase by trying to Marvelise the whole thing. People may knock Batman v Superman but it made a very solid profit proving that for all the internet hate and critical disdain it had an audience who wanted to see that story continue and a follow up that kept the same style laid down by Man of Steel and Batman v Superman.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Dragon Ranger

Rumours are there are lots more scenes featuring Steppenwolf and his motivations but they are on the cutting room floor after Whedon and Warner Bros hacked the movie to pieces to make it less than two hours. The studio wanted the run time shorter for more showings not realising the film was going to get horrible reviews and awful word of mouth even though they knew they were alienating a large portion of the established fanbase. People may knock Batman v Superman but it made a very solid profit proving that for all the internet hate and critical disdain it had an audience who wanted to see that story continue.

Steppenwolf ranks up there with some of the 'worst' villains ever...and I don't mean that as a compliment either

[levcore]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Is it me or did they put very little effort in molding the villain? He is even worse than the white orc of The Hobbit

I thought you said this movie 'rocked'. If you think the villain is that bad how can the movie rock so much?

[Dragon Ranger]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Steppenwolf ranks up there with some of the 'worst' villains ever...and I don't mean that as a compliment either

He has a lot of backstory in the comics and from what I have read there was a lot more footage shot so I guess until that ever gets released he will be right up there with the worst comic movie villains. The entire movie is a catalogue of errors and it will always be known as the one the studio butchered in an attempt to copy their rivals.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by levcore

I thought you said this movie 'rocked'. If you think the villain is that bad how can the movie rock so much?

It was not until the third time that I watched this movie that I realized something was really off with the main bad guy.

I watched this in:
1st time: HDR10
2nd time: 3D
3rd time: Dolby Vision

So, either it took me 3 watches to realize how bad the villain was, or maybe it was the Dolby Vision presentation that ruined it for me