The Matrix 4K UHD (1999) - Page 75 - Blu-ray Forum

Vilya · 05-17-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

Don't *****(not that you would) when the initial run is sold out everywhere Amazon has the best price matching policy in the business.

I keep seeing these types of post then people complaining when their bestbuy or walmart etc. has no copies.....makes no sense.

I am not worried about this title becoming unavailable. If I don't get a first run copy with a slipcover, I will just have to make peace with the bunny cover art. I can do that.

I am willing to pay the current price, if the consensus of reviews and forum comments indicate that this is a great 4K disc.

benji888578 · 05-17-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vilya

I recognize the potential for this to be a fantastic 4K UHD disc. I would like to see some concrete evidence that this potential has been realized before I spend that much.

I am more willing to blind buy at a $25 price point.

Considering the director of photography was involved, it should be, and, according to (I know some of you hate) Bill Hunt over at digital bits, he gave the Video & Audio each A+. (other reviews have also been posted in this thread)

The UHD disc includes previously released commentaries and Wachowskis written intro.

It also includes a new 2-disc blu-ray set, the film is remastered from the new UHD scan and includes the new Dolby Atmos audio, along with previously released extras, he talks a bit about the extras in his review.

>It's nice to see this will be looking more like the theatrical release, I missed it in theaters (long story) so I'll be picking this one up when I can.

Cherokee Jack · 05-17-2018, 04:52 PM

Waiting until $25 or less myself. Was a fan of the original as a teen but haven't watched it since so this would be something of a partially blind buy for me.

Roonan · 05-17-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovewaterslides

Looks very close to the theatrical release actually.

And inconsistent with everything else. Like most shots set in the Matrix. Of the pictures posted, it seems only the interrogation shot retained the grading. And compared to everything else, it sticks out when it shouldn't.

maverick22 · 05-17-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

I get refund emails the day of release...every release practically. Just got 3 for braveheart, die hard and gladiator.

Cool, did you have to contact them or was it automatic?

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Yeah, hopefully the UHD puts everything back into place. This part of the doblu review is a little concerning:

I have no idea what "inherent black crush" early in the film he's talking about. It was shot to have heavy shadows, but heavy shadows =/= black crush. Chroma noise is worrying, but we saw that before on numerous releases - Blade Runner, Saving Private Ryan and even Braveheart. Depends on how severe it is, how frequent.

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Originally Posted by ilovewaterslides

Looks very close to the theatrical release actually. I'm happy.

Hmm... Interesting. It looks odd because it contradict filmmakers own words how they tried to eliminate blue from the matrix scenes, but whatever. If that's how it was in theaters, so be it.

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Originally Posted by infiniteCR

They may be gimping the new bluray and not bothering with balancing the bit depth/gamma to just showoff that the UHD can have its cake and eat it too (if done right). I am happy about what I am seeing color wise. The green isn't cloying like it previously was.

I hope so. Plus these jpgs are heavily compressed, so they probably added their part into ugliness of screencaps. I love the look of the master and can't wait to see the UHD version. With superior encode and HDR I'm sure I'm gonna love it.

ilovewaterslides · 05-17-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Roonan

And inconsistent with everything else. Like most shots set in the Matrix. Of the pictures posted, it seems only the interrogation shot retained the grading. And compared to everything else, it sticks out when it shouldn't.

Yes, because on the previous BD, that scene was actually pretty accurate grading wise. Everything else was a joke.
For example, during the scene where Mouse takes the guns out of their case before getting shot at, the first frame of this shot has complete different colours.

Jumpman · 05-17-2018, 05:38 PM

While not the appropriate thread, you can have a look at the new MATRIX master on iTunes right now, in 1080p.

Roonan · 05-17-2018, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovewaterslides

Yes, because on the previous BD, that scene was actually pretty accurate grading wise. Everything else was a joke.

Accurate to what? The same source that you used as evidence for comparison shows no green in the interrogation scene. It's not meant to stick out either.

And no, everything else was not a joke. It was made consistent with the look they intended: green hue when in the Matrix. Now it's not consistent. Some shots have the intended green grading, others don't.

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 05:55 PM

So I checked other reviews on doblu.com to see the quality of screenshots and here how Gladiator looks:

Braveheart:

Black Panther:

Filtering and messy compression is on his screenshots, not in the source. So it leads me to believe The Matrix blu-ray isn't as bad as what his screens make it look.

Spartan21 · 05-17-2018, 05:57 PM

The new blu-ray definitley looks too bright. The highlights are blown out. Like many said here, hopefully the UHD will fix all that. I'm patiently waiting for screenshots.

Pieter V · 05-17-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

So I checked other reviews on[B]
Filtering and messy compression is on his screenshots, not in the source. So it leads me to believe The Matrix blu-ray isn't as bad as what his screens make it look.

Yes, I did the same earlier today. Weird blocking/pixelated images.

It's what I am seeing back on The Matrix shots as well.

It's about time the scans pop up for real comparisons.

Jumpman · 05-17-2018, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan21

The new blu-ray definitley looks too bright. The highlights are blown out. Like many said here, hopefully the UHD will fix all that. I'm patiently waiting for screenshots.

On iTunes, that’s what I see as well. I actually watched my BD copy two nights ago and yeah, between the two, the quality of the master is better here but it’s different in terms of the color consistency within the matrix itself.

Very curious about the UHD myself after looking at this.

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Yes, I did the same earlier today. Weird blocking/pixelated images.

It's what I am seeing back on The Matrix shots as well.

It's about time the scans pop up for real comparisons.

Crap, I almost had a heart attack seeing that blockiness-pixelation. Good reminder no to trust some obscure sources for screenshots. Only caps or a few other trusted sources.

King Crimson · 05-17-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by maverick22

Cool, did you have to contact them or was it automatic?

Its an automatic price adjustment refund. I got like $5 for Die Hard. $.80 cents for Braveheart and I think the same for Gladiator.

imsounoriginal · 05-17-2018, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

So I checked other reviews on doblu.com to see the quality of screenshots and here how Gladiator looks:

[Show spoiler]

Filtering and messy compression is on his screenshots, not in the source. So it leads me to believe The Matrix blu-ray isn't as bad as what his screens make it look.

He's admitted as much. I commented on his King Arthur review about some issues in one of the caps, he replied that it wasn't visible on the disc.

James_Younger_Gang · 05-17-2018, 06:27 PM

Will this be available in store at walmart? I would like to buy it if the reviews are good.

HeavyHitter · 05-17-2018, 06:27 PM

Not to be overly critical, but we're at the point where review sites need to have PROPERLY captured screenshots in terms of compression. This shouldn't be happening in 2018.

nick4Knight · 05-17-2018, 06:43 PM

We're also at a point where relying on screens from sources you don't know or trust, and relying on screens AT ALL is the definition of misguided. But almost all engage in it. At least to "guage" the direction it's heading, and cringingly to dictate their choice to buy or not.

The smarter thing is to listen to someone you trust if they have the disc and can report on it to you.

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 06:48 PM

Nothing misguided about relying on screens. Provided screens are properly captured.

The smarter thing is to trust your own eyes.

05-17-2018, 04:52 PM	#1483
Cherokee Jack Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2017 Location:Arizona Trading Score:172	Waiting until $25 or less myself. Was a fan of the original as a teen but haven't watched it since so this would be something of a partially blind buy for me.

05-17-2018, 05:38 PM	#1488
Jumpman Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Durham, NC 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:114 DVD collection:7 Digital collection:230 iTunes collection:1784 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:39	While not the appropriate thread, you can have a look at the new MATRIX master on iTunes right now, in 1080p.

05-17-2018, 05:55 PM	#1490
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	So I checked other reviews on doblu.com to see the quality of screenshots and here how Gladiator looks: Braveheart: Black Panther: Filtering and messy compression is on his screenshots, not in the source. So it leads me to believe The Matrix blu-ray isn't as bad as what his screens make it look.

05-17-2018, 05:57 PM	#1491
Spartan21 Special Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Florida 4K collection:786 Blu-ray collection:1364 Trading Score:1	The new blu-ray definitley looks too bright. The highlights are blown out. Like many said here, hopefully the UHD will fix all that. I'm patiently waiting for screenshots.

05-17-2018, 06:27 PM	#1497
James_Younger_Gang Special Member Member since:Jun 2014 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Will this be available in store at walmart? I would like to buy it if the reviews are good.

05-17-2018, 06:27 PM	#1498
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	Not to be overly critical, but we're at the point where review sites need to have PROPERLY captured screenshots in terms of compression. This shouldn't be happening in 2018.

05-17-2018, 06:43 PM	#1499
nick4Knight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Perth, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:386 Blu-ray collection:716	We're also at a point where relying on screens from sources you don't know or trust, and relying on screens AT ALL is the definition of misguided. But almost all engage in it. At least to "guage" the direction it's heading, and cringingly to dictate their choice to buy or not. The smarter thing is to listen to someone you trust if they have the disc and can report on it to you.

05-17-2018, 06:48 PM	#1500
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	Nothing misguided about relying on screens. Provided screens are properly captured. The smarter thing is to trust your own eyes.

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