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Old 06-30-2018, 05:14 AM   #1721
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Please please let the eventual Star Trek catalogue releases on 4K be good.
Given Paramount’s habit of only releasing their franchise films on UHD around the release of a new theatrical entry in the series, I’m paranoid that the (much needed) Star Trek UHDs will never see the light of day, simply because it’s going to be a while until we see a new Star Trek film and I fear the format may be dead by that point. I just want every major film/franchise released on this format as soon as possible, before the studio’s conclude that it’s too niche and not worth the financial investment.
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Old 06-30-2018, 05:27 AM   #1722
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Watched Ghost Protocol.

Maybe it's my settings. It seems to crush the blacks a little in some scenes and at times the grain looks like busy little ants.

For the most part it looks good, but this was a little distracting to me.
I’m in the process of watching this one right now. The grain looks typical versus other movies shot on film. It’s not going to be entirely consistent because there are scenes that were shot on IMAX cameras as well.

The crushed blacks I’ve noticed too, however I am not entirely sure that it is different on the Blu-ray as well. I quickly switched between the HDR10 and the DV and the black level is the same. Once I am finished with the film I will check the standard Blu-ray.
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Old 06-30-2018, 06:15 AM   #1723
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Any chance anyone can check if the foreign language spoken has burned in subs or player generated? For example the opening of M:1.? The original blu ray and HD DVDs from the US originally were. Thanks.
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Old 06-30-2018, 06:38 AM   #1724
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The e-mail... ugh.

The only thing that kinda hurts the first M:I for me is the insane leap of logic that has to be taken to link - geeze, has the spoiler statue of limitations expired on this one? Just in case...

[Show spoiler]
...the insane leap of logic that has to be taken to link Phelps to Job. I try to excuse it, but it's just so hard. "They stamped it didn't they. Those damn Gideons." I appreciate that they planted the bit about the Drake Hotel in a throw-away line at the beginning of the movie, but having Ethan come across a bible stamped at the Drake Hotel as a means to put two and two together is just ridiculous. The movie requires us to believe having a bible is incriminating enough to deduce anyone using the handle "Job" must be the same person that stashed a bible in a safe house in another country. What did it matter if it was Jim's bible? It's a pretty popular book. That meant he had to be Job? He couldn't just have brought a bible with him? Job didn't even need a bible. What gave Ethan away was that he quoted scripture, something the real Job never did. The best we can argue is Jim Phelps was religious, so Ethan could make the leap that using a religious handle could be Phelps. But, then he'd also have to think it made sense for that bible to be there.

I don't know - I found a way to forgive it the last time I watched it. I'll see if I remember how I excused it when I watch it again this weekend. I don't think the bible tipped Ethan off right away, so maybe it was that combined with something else I'm forgetting. But, Phelps sure did blame the bible for outing him!

I'm even able to just gloss over the silliness where Ethan just guesses someone's e-mail address - Max@Job 3:14 - based on the only two pieces of info he was given and it worked! That was after he tried searching for "max.com."

Good call on the spoiler tags. You never know who might be looking at the thread for video/audio info, but haven't seen all the movies (or any) yet.

With that said, I love your multi-faceted reasoning-within-reasoning-within-reason inception-like attempts to make nonsensical leaps in storytelling clues to have some kind of applicable logic!

What I thought was the MOST fun about M:I was how there were shots and scenes which planted clues revealing who might be watching Ethan at any time. That was clever.
[Show spoiler]I also like the knife as a giveaway to Ethan when he keeps Jean Reno from killing anyone. I didn't have a clue that his face revealed surprise until the flashback shot.

As for the mystery itself... It's overly complicated, convoluted, and silly. I thought this the last time I saw it, too; in 1996 lawlz
You're right about your question regarding the "link". I also felt that it was quite far-fetched. Then again, the movie itself revels in being far-fetched and ridiculous when it comes to the Impossible Mission.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:19 AM   #1725
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Since the UK boxset has been reported to have only 10 discs (five 4K and five BD), guess it doesn't come with the extra bonus features that are on the bonus BD discs from the individual US release for MI3, MI4, and MI5?
Well these are the special features on the Australian Rogue Nation cover which is region B.


-Commentary by Tom Cruise and Director Christopher McQuarrie
-Lighting the Fuse
-Cruise Control
-Heroes......
-......And Rogues
-Cruising Altitude
-Mission Immersible
-Sand Theft Auto
-The Mission Continues
With an Additional 50 minutes of EXCLUSIVE behind-the-scenes footage featuring the film's action-packed stunts.

Not sure about MI3 or GP but it seems they might have put all the extras on one disc including the exclusive material. Can someone who has region B confirm this.
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:45 AM   #1726
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M:I2 -
Another great UHD. Kind of the same things to say as I had to say with the first one. However, there are more daytime shots, especially at beaches and ... sand. These outdoor shots are beautiful, with striking detail in several parts that made my eyes go wide (such as at around 1:28:15, when Ethan is climbing the rock face ledge. The overhead shot of him climbing caught my eye). Shadow detail in sun-filled exteriors is wonderful. Take for example the final action sequence, and when he starts "The Main Showdown" on the beach.

As for the movie:
You know, it wasn't as completely stupid as I remember it being. Until the last 30 minutes. For the first hour and a half, I kind of thought "this isn't as cheesy as I recall". But then, all hell breaks loose and it's almost a parody of even John Woo's wooing ways.
It was the moment when he does the flying flip kick in a group of pidgeons where it all starts going wayyyy downhill. The motorcycle chase has some great stunts, but I kept laughing every time a vehicle exploded. Sometimes, that same vehicle would explode TWICE. I thought that the part when a Range Rover gets pushed off the road and runs into six (really old and cheap) cars all lined up in a row that the Rover would explode AT THE SAME TIME as the other six cars. Sadly, only the Range Rover exploded, anti-climactically flipping on top of the other cars, and just... well that's it.
If anything, it showed a lot of restraint on John Woo's part to not let EVERY vehicle explode during the action scene. Haha!
The final 20 minutes reminds me of Face/Off a bit. I haven't seen Face/Off since it came out, either. However, I remember thinking it was a dumb, bombastic but fun enough movie. Until the boat chase sequence at the end. I remember sitting in the theater and going, "OK man, this is just one action scene too many. I'm ready for the movie to end, now." But it kept going, and going. I think even at one point, the Energizer Bunny pounded his drum across the screen, did a half spin - and then slowed down and stopped moving.
That's kind of how I felt with M:I2 for the final 15 minutes.
Overall, it's not the complete disaster I had in my head for the last 18 years. But turning Ethan into the Terminator, Rambo, and a low-rent Martin Riggs that can slow motion kick and float in mid-air like he's in the Matrix just doesn't cut it for me.
Thandie Newton, though... my god, she is one of the most beautiful amalgamation of molecules this universe has ever pseudo-randomly assembled. Yowza.
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Old 06-30-2018, 12:27 PM   #1727
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The e-mail... ugh.

The only thing that kinda hurts the first M:I for me is the insane leap of logic that has to be taken to link - geeze, has the spoiler statue of limitations expired on this one? Just in case...

[Show spoiler]
...the insane leap of logic that has to be taken to link Phelps to Job. I try to excuse it, but it's just so hard. "They stamped it didn't they. Those damn Gideons." I appreciate that they planted the bit about the Drake Hotel in a throw-away line at the beginning of the movie, but having Ethan come across a bible stamped at the Drake Hotel as a means to put two and two together is just ridiculous. The movie requires us to believe having a bible is incriminating enough to deduce anyone using the handle "Job" must be the same person that stashed a bible in a safe house in another country. What did it matter if it was Jim's bible? It's a pretty popular book. That meant he had to be Job? He couldn't just have brought a bible with him? Job didn't even need a bible. What gave Ethan away was that he quoted scripture, something the real Job never did. The best we can argue is Jim Phelps was religious, so Ethan could make the leap that using a religious handle could be Phelps. But, then he'd also have to think it made sense for that bible to be there.

I don't know - I found a way to forgive it the last time I watched it. I'll see if I remember how I excused it when I watch it again this weekend. I don't think the bible tipped Ethan off right away, so maybe it was that combined with something else I'm forgetting. But, Phelps sure did blame the bible for outing him!

I'm even able to just gloss over the silliness where Ethan just guesses someone's e-mail address - Max@Job 3:14 - based on the only two pieces of info he was given and it worked! That was after he tried searching for "max.com."

You guys are making me want to watch the movies haha. I am almost done with this monster of a project, so I will need to take a movie or sleep break soon before I come back around to review and edit.
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Old 06-30-2018, 12:39 PM   #1728
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M:I2 -
Another great UHD. Kind of the same things to say as I had to say with the first one. However, there are more daytime shots, especially at beaches and ... sand. These outdoor shots are beautiful, with striking detail in several parts that made my eyes go wide (such as at around 1:28:15, when Ethan is climbing the rock face ledge. The overhead shot of him climbing caught my eye). Shadow detail in sun-filled exteriors is wonderful. Take for example the final action sequence, and when he starts "The Main Showdown" on the beach.

As for the movie:
You know, it wasn't as completely stupid as I remember it being. Until the last 30 minutes. For the first hour and a half, I kind of thought "this isn't as cheesy as I recall". But then, all hell breaks loose and it's almost a parody of even John Woo's wooing ways.
It was the moment when he does the flying flip kick in a group of pidgeons where it all starts going wayyyy downhill. The motorcycle chase has some great stunts, but I kept laughing every time a vehicle exploded. Sometimes, that same vehicle would explode TWICE. I thought that the part when a Range Rover gets pushed off the road and runs into six (really old and cheap) cars all lined up in a row that the Rover would explode AT THE SAME TIME as the other six cars. Sadly, only the Range Rover exploded, anti-climactically flipping on top of the other cars, and just... well that's it.
If anything, it showed a lot of restraint on John Woo's part to not let EVERY vehicle explode during the action scene. Haha!
The final 20 minutes reminds me of Face/Off a bit. I haven't seen Face/Off since it came out, either. However, I remember thinking it was a dumb, bombastic but fun enough movie. Until the boat chase sequence at the end. I remember sitting in the theater and going, "OK man, this is just one action scene too many. I'm ready for the movie to end, now." But it kept going, and going. I think even at one point, the Energizer Bunny pounded his drum across the screen, did a half spin - and then slowed down and stopped moving.
That's kind of how I felt with M:I2 for the final 15 minutes.
Overall, it's not the complete disaster I had in my head for the last 18 years. But turning Ethan into the Terminator, Rambo, and a low-rent Martin Riggs that can slow motion kick and float in mid-air like he's in the Matrix just doesn't cut it for me.
Thandie Newton, though... my god, she is one of the most beautiful amalgamation of molecules this universe has ever pseudo-randomly assembled. Yowza.
I basically worship M: I 2 so naturally I don't agree with everything you said, but I'm glad you thought the PQ was great.

I was actually hoping my UK boxset would arrive today after all but doesn't seem to be the case. Oh well, it'll be Tuesday at the latest I think/hope...
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Old 06-30-2018, 02:02 PM   #1729
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Anyone seen the 4K of the first at FYE?

I have some store credit.
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Old 06-30-2018, 02:37 PM   #1730
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I’m in the process of watching this one right now. The grain looks typical versus other movies shot on film. It’s not going to be entirely consistent because there are scenes that were shot on IMAX cameras as well.

The crushed blacks I’ve noticed too, however I am not entirely sure that it is different on the Blu-ray as well. I quickly switched between the HDR10 and the DV and the black level is the same. Once I am finished with the film I will check the standard Blu-ray.
I forgot about the IMAX. Thanks.
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Well these are the special features on the Australian Rogue Nation cover which is region B.
[Show spoiler]


-Commentary by Tom Cruise and Director Christopher McQuarrie
-Lighting the Fuse
-Cruise Control
-Heroes......
-......And Rogues
-Cruising Altitude
-Mission Immersible
-Sand Theft Auto
-The Mission Continues
With an Additional 50 minutes of EXCLUSIVE behind-the-scenes footage featuring the film's action-packed stunts.

Not sure about MI3 or GP but it seems they might have put all the extras on one disc including the exclusive material. Can someone who has region B confirm this.
You're definitely right! It does seem like they crammed all the extras on one BD. For the US release, the first BD has the feature film along with commentary by Tom Cruise and Director Christopher McQuarrie. The second BD (bonus disc) has all the other special features. Guess it could be the same for the UK boxset.
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Nope.


UK discs remain the same.
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So the better encodes?
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Quite, although GP's BD could do with a re-encoding. Janky looking at the best of times. 1-3 are the same old MPEG-2 Dolby Digital shite.

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Quite, although GP's BD could do with a re-encoding. Janky looking at the best of times. 1-3 are the same old MPEG-2 Dolby Digital shite.
Knew 1-3 were the same, this will be the third set of those I will own when I pick these up.
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I've already sold them to some poor c*** on ebay.
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How much did you get for them?
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Amazon shipped my copy of Rogue Nation for Monday delivery. So much for "Ships in 1 to 2 months" lol.

Are any of these available at Best Buy?
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After watching M:I again last night, I feel I have to pay homage to one of my favourite parts. Just after Ethan
[Show spoiler]hooks the helicopter to the high speed train, he rolls over and just kind of screams at Krieger for a considerable length of time - until he's kicked by Jim Phelps. It's equal parts hilarious and badass. Who knows how long his battle scream would have lasted had he not been kicked
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Amazon shipped my copy of Rogue Nation for Monday delivery. So much for "Ships in 1 to 2 months" lol.

Are any of these available at Best Buy?
The site only has one of them for shipping only. I found GP and RN at the store.
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