Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by 78deluxe

Paypal balances are easily transferred straight to a bank account.

IMDB ratings have meaning due to the fact it is a large pool of people rating just how much they like a film.

Most of my time is spent watching films from the 30s-50s and think the IMDB system still holds up pretty well for older films. If anything, many new films are skewed to rating much better than they are. (Avengers Infinity War is a top 25 film of all time in terms of audience enjoyment/satisfaction, etc?)

I'm a big stop motion animation fan, and that clearly puts me in a Harryhausen fan. But I'm also well versed enough to know that most of the movies he worked on do not rise to the level of his special effects and special effects alone do not make a great film.

The ratings of his films I feel are fairly spot on. The guy wasn't the director, he was the visual effects creator. Some of the movies he worked on were good, and others wouldn't have much value outside of his contributions.

We do all have different tastes, IMDB is the equalizer that shows us on average what film goers think and rate the experience. It isn't perfect by any stretch, but if on average someone thinks a movie is a 5 out of 10, that probably isn't worth a premium price to anyone but a die hard fan.

I don't put much stock in the IMDB ratings myself, for a variety of reasons. If you feel they have value, that's fine. But what's not cool is posting a defense of them just so they can act as justification for you being a jerk towards another member here and denigrating his purchases. Would you like us to check out your collection and start picking out some of the films we think are crappy and mocking you for actually spending money on them?

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

I'd say you just described Lee Marvin, but I do like me some Coburn.

Lee Marvin was cool in a badass way. He was just a guy I would never want to mess with... not just on screen but in real life. Coburn was cool in a laidback 60s way. He was just a classy guy in every way possible and he showed a great sense of humour in many of his films. I always remember being thrilled when he made a comeback in the 90s culminating in his Oscar win because he spent much of the 80s out of commission with health issues related to severe arthritis (if you look closely in his later movies you can see the effects of this on his hands which looked very gnarled).

[antennahead]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Lee Marvin was cool in a badass way. He was just a guy I would never want to mess with... not just on screen but in real life. Coburn was cool in a laidback 60s way. He was just a classy guy in every way possible and he showed a great sense of humour in many of his films. I always remember being thrilled when he made a comeback in the 90s culminating in his Oscar win because he spent much of the 80s out of commission with health issues related to severe arthritis (if you look closely in his later movies you can see the effects of this on his hands which looked very gnarled).

+1 Loved James Coburn. You are right on the money; classy, cool, and laid back about it There's a quirky little film from 1993 I really liked, "Deadfall" ...... Michael Biehn, Charlie Sheen, Nicolas Cage, and James Coburn. It was great to see him return to film after his arthritis issues in the 80's.

[noirjunkie]

Originally Posted by mja345

No worries bro the Flint films are worth every penny. James Coburn is IMO maybe the coolest cat to ever be in film. He was like McQueen or Bronson with comedy chops. He's one of my favorite actors of all-time.

That era produced a group of leading men the likes of which we'll never see again: Marvin, McQueen, Coburn, Newman, etc.

[Page14]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

So due to boredom I've decided to compile a list of exclusive titles that are only available worldwide on Blu Ray from Twilight Time. I will not count bootlegs releases (Must be officially licensed). The reason being for this list to show the uniqueness that TT helps in bringing "niche" titles to HD. Titles will be removed when (or if) they received another release.

[Show spoiler]8 Heads in a Duffel Bag
Alamo Bay
All the King's Men
American Buffalo
Anastasia
Angel
April Love
Auto Focus
Baby Boom
Bandit Queen
Bell, Book and Candle
Beloved Infidel
Beneath the Twelve Mile Reefer
The Black Stallion Returns
Blue Denim
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice
Bobby Deerfield
Born Yesterday
The Bounty (Unsure if French releases are bootlegs or not)
Breaking Away
The Bride Wore Black
The Bridge at Remagen
Bye Bye Birdie
Carla's Song
Cat Ballou
Che!
Chilly Scenes of Winter
Cinderella Liberty
Comes a Horseman
Conrack
Demetrius and the Gladiators (Unsure if French release is official)
The Detective
The Disappearance
Don't Bother to Knock
The Eddy Duchin Story
Edge of Eternity
The Fantasticks
Fate is the Hunter (SOLD OUT)
Fatherland
Funny Lady (SOLD OUT)
Gengis Khan
Gidget
Gloria
Gun Fury
The Happy Ending
Harry and Walter Go to New York
Hawaii
The Hawaiians
Heaven and Earth
Hell and High Water
High Time (SOLD OUT)
Hilda Crane
The Hospital
The Hot Rock
House of Bamboo
How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying
Husbands and Wives
Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte
I Could Go On Singing
I Want to Live!
In Like Flint
In The French Style
The Incident
Inserts
Jane Eyre (SOLD OUT)
Julia
The Keys of the Kingdom
Kings Go Forth
Lady in Cement (Only available as Tony Rome/Lady in Cement double feature)
Leave Her to Heaven
Lilies of the Field
Lost Horizon
Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing
The Mad Magician 3D
Man in the Dark 3D
The Man in the Moon
The Member of the Wedding
Mindwarp
Miss Sadie Thompson 3D
Mississippi Mermaid
Model Shop
Moscow on the Hudson
The Most Beautiful Wife
My Cousin Rachel
My Gal Sal
My Sister Eileen
Next Stop, Greenwich Village
Nicholas and Alexandra
Nicholas Nickleby
The Night of the Generals
No Down Payment
The Only Game in Town
Our Man Flint
Our Man in Havana
Pal Joey
Peyton Place
The Pirates of Blood River
Places in the Heart
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie
The Quiet American
Rapid Fire
Resurrected
The Revolt of Mamie Stover
Romeo is Bleeding
Sayonara
Scream and Scream Again
Solomon and Sheba
The Song of Bernadette
The Sound and the Fury
Stanley and Iris
State Fair
Stormy Weather
The Story of Adele H.
Strange Invaders
Summer Lovers
Support Your Local Sheriff (Apart of the Support Your Local Sheriff/Support Your Local Gunfighter double feature)
Swamp Water
Take a Girl Like You
Titus
Tom Sawyer/Huckleberry Finn double feature
U Turn
The Vanishing
The Virgin Soldiers
The Wayward Bus
Who’ll Stop the Rain
The World of Henry Orient
Wuthering Heights
Year of the Comet
Yentl
You’ll Never Get Rich
The Young Lions

As a bonus here are the few non-English speaking films that have had releases in other territories but are English friendly in terms of subtitles and/or English dub tracks

[Show spoiler]
Appassionata
Brutal Tales of Chivalry
The Bullet Train
The Little House
The Yellow Handkerchief

Thank you for the work in putting that list together. Doing a quick count, I have 75 or so of those titles. Interesting.

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

I ... But what's not cool is posting a defense of them just so they can act as justification for you being a jerk towards another member here and denigrating his purchases. Would you like us to check out your collection and start picking out some of the films we think are crappy and mocking you for actually spending money on them?

).

The only mocking was related to an initial gross misrepresentation of what was paid, which was then cleared up after another member questioned how they got the deal.

I have quite a few film I've gotten for free and a ton I paid less than $3 for. Most of which should be pretty obvious based on what the real core of the collection is, which consists of what looks like a film schools library.

I have an amazing collection for someone where other hobbies take up even more of my resources. You won't find anything mock worthy that I paid anywhere close to retail for unless you count some twilight time releases, which probably wouldn't be advisable in this thread.

[mja345]

Originally Posted by antennahead

+1 Loved James Coburn. You are right on the money; classy, cool, and laid back about it There's a quirky little film from 1993 I really liked, "Deadfall" ...... Michael Biehn, Charlie Sheen, Nicolas Cage, and James Coburn. It was great to see him return to film after his arthritis issues in the 80's.

I have the German digibook of "Deadfall". Really insane film, even aside from Cage's bizarre performance.

[klauswhereareyou]

Got The Crimson Kimono from the last 15 buck sale. Just need to get Hell and High Water to get all the Twilight Time Sam Fuller releases.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Got The Crimson Kimono from the last 15 buck sale. Just need to get Hell and High Water to get all the Twilight Time Sam Fuller releases.

Me too. According to tracking, it should arrive today! It's a blind buy for me and when I was reading up on it I was fascinated by James Shigeta's biography - I only knew him from Die Hard but he had a very interesting life and career.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Got The Crimson Kimono from the last 15 buck sale. Just need to get Hell and High Water to get all the Twilight Time Sam Fuller releases.

"The Crimson Kimono" is a damn fine noir. I will say I'm slightly disappointed that the video quality is a little rough around the edges, especially compared to a lot of other Sony-Columbia B&W remasters; the elements were probably in poor condition.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

"The Crimson Kimono" is a damn fine noir. I will say I'm slightly disappointed that the video quality is a little rough around the edges, especially compared to a lot of other Sony-Columbia B&W remasters; the elements were probably in poor condition.

Yeah it's a good movie.

[SeanJoyce]

Wasn't really a fan of The Crimson Kimono, but ah well, can't win em all.

[klauswhereareyou]

So is this Disney Fox deal going to do anything to TT releasing Fox titles?

[tomkatholic]

Of course not. Any existent deals would have to be honored even with a merger

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by tomkatholic

Of course not. Any existent deals would have to be honored even with a merger

Do we know that, and do we know how long their current deal was set up for? They already lost MGM/UA stuff didn't they?

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Do we know that, and do we know how long their current deal was set up for? They already lost MGM/UA stuff didn't they?

Fox's home video distribution rights to MGM titles are up in 2020.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Fox's home video distribution rights to MGM titles are up in 2020.

No I mean I thought Twilight Time wasn't putting out MGM/UA stuff anymore.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

No I mean I thought Twilight Time wasn't putting out MGM/UA stuff anymore.

Oh, I see! Yes, I believe, MGM didn't like the way of TT's business model so TT no longer release MGM titles but still have whatever low quantity titles available.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by tomkatholic

Of course not. Any existent deals would have to be honored even with a merger

Actually it is: while their existing deal holds good, Fox has put a moratorium on new deals.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Oh, I see! Yes, I believe, MGM didn't like the way of TT's business model so TT no longer release MGM titles but still have whatever low quantity titles available.

Or vice versa: TT didn't want to release as many titles per month as MGM/UA wanted, especially since they had to pass on so many titles because of poor master material.

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Lee Marvin was cool in a badass way. He was just a guy I would never want to mess with... not just on screen but in real life. Coburn was cool in a laidback 60s way. He was just a classy guy in every way possible and he showed a great sense of humour in many of his films. I always remember being thrilled when he made a comeback in the 90s culminating in his Oscar win because he spent much of the 80s out of commission with health issues related to severe arthritis (if you look closely in his later movies you can see the effects of this on his hands which looked very gnarled).

Even in the vast majority of his "serious" roles, Marvin had a wryness and affability to him, not to mention the bevy of outright comedic performances (The Comancheros, Donovan's Reef, Shout at the Devil and his Oscar-winning turn in Cat Ballou) he was responsible for.

I think the main difference is that Marvin had leading man charisma in spades while Coburn was often better-suited in supporting parts. I confess to not having seen the Flint movies though, so I'll try to be on the lookout. For the longest time they were nothing more than a vague Austin Powers reference to me.

I agree with the other user (and many like him) though, you simply don't get that caliber of leading man anymore. I would have loved to have seen Marvin and McQueen share the screen, what pyrotechnics!