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E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-14-2018, 03:19 AM

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Gotta read the whole article, but I can summarize for ya:
OLED Panels produced globally by LGD in 2017 = 1.7 million. Of those LG took 1.2 million and Sony took 200,000 in 2017. LGD will make 2.8 million OLED panels in 2018. LG will take 1.7 million in 2018 (500k more than they did in 2017). Sony will take 500,000 in 2018 (300k more than 2017). A few other companies take fewer than 100k panels per year to make the above numbers add up. For the US, I agree that you're probably correct that Magnolia will take the bulk of Sony A9Fs. Heh, they'll take more than 300 for display models across the country.

Interesting thought by bootymonger

Hmmm Robert of Value Electronics.... maybe under 100K panels of A9F's. Wonder if he plans equal panel counts A9F and Z9F for inHouse Stock

LordoftheRings · 08-14-2018, 03:21 AM

I know that, but the technology keeps advancing rapidly. ...2020 is fine too, no big deal...a year or two.

* Receivers are starting to get HDMI 2.1 ... it won't be long now till TVs get them too. ...By 2020?

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Bob.

The Z been in a 2 year cycle.

G maybe in year 2020.
The Japanese Olymbic year.
But that's the year of the 8K

Question is will Z9F have the HDMI 2.1 Chip in. But Sony keeps Mum. Like Z9D had Dolby Vision chip but kept Mum for a long time. If my old memory serves

mzupeman · 08-14-2018, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I know that, but the technology keeps advancing rapidly. ...2020 is fine too, no big deal...a year or two.

* Receivers are starting to get HDMI 2.1 ... it won't be long now till TVs get them too. ...By 2020?

Yeah technology is always advancing but I’m OK with plunking $3500 down for the Z9F’s 65” model. I have a set that doesn’t have the best HDR implementation (even if it tone maps well), and all that really matters to me is having a TV that can produce wider color, nice bright highlights and an accurate image overall. Sony seems to fare best with DSE uniformity issues and they just seem to be of better quality overall. I personally don’t care about a slew of other features. Just give me a great image and I’m good to go.

Robert Zohn · 08-14-2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Bob.

The Z been in a 2 year cycle.

G maybe in year 2020.
The Japanese Olymbic year.
But that's the year of the 8K

Question is will Z9F have the HDMI 2.1 Chip in. But Sony keeps Mum. Like Z9D had Dolby Vision chip but kept Mum for a long time. If my old memory serves

The Z9F and A9F have HDMI 2.0B with HDCP 2.3.

Agent Kay · 08-14-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Sony is getting into the OLED TV business in a big way.
It's not because OLEDs is a truly handicap'd PQ technology.

More Nissan's sell per year than Bentley's.

Clark Burk · 08-14-2018, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

The Z9F and A9F have HDMI 2.0B with HDCP 2.3.

Thanks Robert, now you have me a bit worried about this new HDCP 2.3. What is the difference between that and the older 2.2? Anything we need to be aware of? Will the HD Fury devices still work?
I don’t want to drag this thread in another direction but I pulled up the white paper and it was 112 pgs and not easy reading.

LordoftheRings · 08-14-2018, 06:46 PM

When we're talking LED technology Sony leads. Samsung second.

OLED? Panasonic leads in Canada and the UK.
By leading I don't mean money I mean the best picture.

In the USA Sony leads again with OLED. LG leads for money, value.

It's too bad that 4K discs are not getting Dolby Vision but streaming 4K does.
It's time to kill physical discs and reintroduce 3D streaming...I think.

It's a beautiful day today, everyone is smiling, the girls look their best and all the children are happy like angels in paradise. We take good care of our families and friends, as we do of our movies and LED TVs from Sony...the best of both worlds.

Agent Kay · 08-14-2018, 09:30 PM

Panasonic and Sony taming dem LG panels.
It's a shame Sony gave up on OLED production.
They will fix that with CLED tho

Geoff D · 08-14-2018, 11:56 PM

Eh. They'll probably put a couple of prototypes out and then drop it like a hot potato, OLED all over again.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-15-2018, 12:48 AM

Looks like it's hard to talk up a storm. When NoBody has a ZF9 to touch. Everyone's is Guessed Out too(Z9F's Goodies).

Who on this thread will be among the first to buy an ZF9.

Robert Zohn · 08-15-2018, 12:55 AM

Me ^, I'm first, but we also wrote a few pre-orders.

mzupeman · 08-15-2018, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Looks like it's hard to talk up a storm. When NoBody has a ZF9 to touch. Everyone's is Guessed Out too(Z9F's Goodies).

Who on this thread will be among the first to buy an ZF9.

I'm definitely getting one. I'll pre-order the darn thing if I have to. I'll see if the local Magnolia at Best Buy is going to be taking them. If not, I'll seek other means.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-15-2018, 01:45 AM

Best Buy's credit card gives 10% in BB Rewards. For its first usage. Not sure if applies to Magnolia.

Robert Zohn · 08-15-2018, 02:20 AM

We offer our clients a 10% Sony Rewards credit so for example if the TV is $5k you would have $500 to go towards any a/v device, speakers, receiver, BD player, or any accessory or take the 5 year warranty. Seems simulator to what Best Buy does.

JimShaw · 08-15-2018, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

We offer our clients a 10% Sony Rewards credit so for example if the TV is $5k you would have $500 to go towards any a/v device, speakers, receiver, BD player, or any accessory or take the 5 year warranty. Seems simulator to what Best Buy does.

Robert

Can a discounted QC and calibration be included in that 10%?

Personally, that's what I would do

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Robert Zohn · 08-15-2018, 02:33 AM

Yes we can apply the rewards credit to the q/c, break-in and top pro calibration. BTW, Bob's Sony TV is shipping tomorrow.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-15-2018, 03:59 AM

Which Bob?

Good Bob, Canadian Bob

Z9D?

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We offer our clients a 10% Sony Rewards*

WOW!!!

JimShaw · 08-15-2018, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Yes we can apply the rewards credit to the q/c, break-in and top pro calibration. BTW, Bob's Sony TV is shipping tomorrow.

It is. He will be excited.

Thanks for the info.

JimShaw · 08-15-2018, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Which Bob?

Good Bob, Canadian Bob

Z9D?

WOW!!!

This Bob is a neighbor of mine.

His first TV that was professionally broke-in and calibrated. He's around 85 AND he just got married.

Not the Z9D but the 75X900F. A BIG step up for him in both TV and love.

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E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-15-2018, 07:46 AM

Damn.
Next. Bob will probably go Atmos.

08-15-2018, 12:48 AM	#310
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Looks like it's hard to talk up a storm. When NoBody has a ZF9 to touch. Everyone's is Guessed Out too(Z9F's Goodies). Who on this thread will be among the first to buy an ZF9. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 08-15-2018 at 01:28 AM.

08-14-2018, 06:46 PM	#307
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	When we're talking LED technology Sony leads. Samsung second. OLED? Panasonic leads in Canada and the UK. By leading I don't mean money I mean the best picture. In the USA Sony leads again with OLED. LG leads for money, value. It's too bad that 4K discs are not getting Dolby Vision but streaming 4K does. It's time to kill physical discs and reintroduce 3D streaming...I think. It's a beautiful day today, everyone is smiling, the girls look their best and all the children are happy like angels in paradise. We take good care of our families and friends, as we do of our movies and LED TVs from Sony...the best of both worlds.

08-14-2018, 09:30 PM	#308
Agent Kay Banned Member since:May 2018 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:57	Panasonic and Sony taming dem LG panels. It's a shame Sony gave up on OLED production. They will fix that with CLED tho

08-14-2018, 11:56 PM	#309
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Eh. They'll probably put a couple of prototypes out and then drop it like a hot potato, OLED all over again.

08-15-2018, 12:55 AM	#311
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Me ^, I'm first, but we also wrote a few pre-orders.

08-15-2018, 01:45 AM	#313
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Best Buy's credit card gives 10% in BB Rewards. For its first usage. Not sure if applies to Magnolia.

08-15-2018, 02:20 AM	#314
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	We offer our clients a 10% Sony Rewards credit so for example if the TV is $5k you would have $500 to go towards any a/v device, speakers, receiver, BD player, or any accessory or take the 5 year warranty. Seems simulator to what Best Buy does.

08-15-2018, 02:33 AM	#316
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Yes we can apply the rewards credit to the q/c, break-in and top pro calibration. BTW, Bob's Sony TV is shipping tomorrow.

08-15-2018, 07:46 AM	#320
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Damn. Next. Bob will probably go Atmos.

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